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Post  Freedom on Tue 20 Oct 2015, 8:41 am

Here's one for those of us of a certain age who can remember exactly where they were when they heard the news that President Kennedy had been shot.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/john-f-kennedys-assassination-photo-showing-lee-harvey-oswald-with-gun-used-to-kill-former-president-authentic/ar-AAfBQy8?li=AAaeUIW&ocid=mailsignoutmd

It will also interest those with knowledge of dodgy photos - very easy to produce them now but less so back then.

If this photo is genuine - and it's a very big if in my opinion - we now just have to resolve all the other oddities of the case.

It's rather like establishing without a doubt that the infamous "last photo" taken in much more recent times is genuine and ignoring all the other inconsistencies with the official story.
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Post  chirpyinsect on Tue 20 Oct 2015, 9:05 am

Very odd that the shadow of the wooden posts is not interrupted by his head. Also where is the gun's shadow?

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Post  Honeyblade on Sun 08 Nov 2015, 8:05 am

For the definitive IMHO dissection of the greatest president who never was assassination there's a good documentary called JFK II Martin sheen does the narration .. Excellent documentary ..
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Post  Freedom on Sun 08 Nov 2015, 9:38 am

Sounds intriguing. I presume this is it. I'll watch it later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we3vEvOhKR0
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Post  chirpyinsect on Sun 08 Nov 2015, 10:07 am

Freedom wrote:Sounds intriguing. I presume this is it. I'll watch it later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we3vEvOhKR0
Watched the first hour so far. It gets a bit bogged down in detail but certainly shows, to me, that the whole thing was orchestrated by TPTB.
I went on from there to watch footage that purports to show the Boston bombing was a fake using crisis actors.

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Post  Freedom on Sun 08 Nov 2015, 10:20 am

I had to give up because of the repetitive nature of the narrative and images but there's nothing that we didn't know already.

It seemed unthinkable to me as a child that those in authority could be up to no good but it's very easy to accept now!

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Post  Honeyblade on Sun 08 Nov 2015, 6:28 pm

I think it is heavy to watch but it shows the inter relations between Cubans,mafia,military u name it and how when the want to unite they can lee Harvey Oswald was set up .. There was no magic bullet IMHO he was accidentally shot in cross fire by excited SS personnel the mantra left and to the right does it for me but I love talking about pls don't stop!
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Post  Freedom on Sun 08 Nov 2015, 9:23 pm

I have heard that theory about the fatal shot coming from someone in the motorcade. The name of the person was mentioned in a TV programme if I remember rightly.

P.S. Link added re that theory.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/Shooting_holes_in_theory_that_a_Secret_Service_agent_killed_President_Kennedy.html
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Post  Honeyblade on Mon 09 Nov 2015, 11:26 am

I wonder what did happen to his brain .. I mean you can't lose a brain .. Must of had a secret to tell ..
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Post  Freedom on Mon 09 Nov 2015, 2:24 pm

I'm sure that there will be debate on this case until long after everyone alive at the time has gone.

The same could well be true of a certain mysterious child disappearance.
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Post  Honeyblade on Mon 09 Nov 2015, 2:44 pm

Yes certain similarities fudging obscuring confusion conflating non cooperation the warren/op grange commission mm...oh I forgot lying scaring witnesses or popping them off .. Classic
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Post  joyce1938 on Mon 09 Nov 2015, 4:00 pm

There were so many theories about JFK death ,it looked like the one done by a security man and gun went be accident ,was the latest ,another chap also got hurt too I think .joyce1938
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Post  Mimi on Mon 09 Nov 2015, 4:18 pm

Freedom wrote:I'm sure that there will be debate on this case until long after everyone alive at the time has gone.

The same could well be true of a certain mysterious child disappearance.

And Princess Diana - I think she was murdered.

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Post  costello on Mon 09 Nov 2015, 4:28 pm

Mimi wrote:
Freedom wrote:I'm sure that there will be debate on this case until long after everyone alive at the time has gone.

The same could well be true of a certain mysterious child disappearance.

And Princess Diana - I think she was murdered.

Don't want to go of topic, but I totally agree Mimi.
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Post  Freedom on Mon 09 Nov 2015, 4:55 pm

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Post  Freedom on Sat 14 Nov 2015, 4:58 pm

I have just realised that Hany Farid - who is quoted in the original link as believing that the photo of Lee Oswald is genuine - is also one of the experts who has vouched for the authenticity of the Madeleine pool photo!!!

Even if the photos are genuine, it does not of course explain away all the other problems with the official versions of both events.
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Post  Honeyblade on Sun 15 Nov 2015, 7:54 am

Ofcourse it's genuine just like the magic bullet ..
Marksmen of great skill have attempted to pull of a replay of the supposed lee HO shots and with a bolt action rifle and they say it can't be done .. Eyewitnesses all say a shot came from the grassy knowl(sic) and zapruda film is IMO proof of more than one shotta
Remember Oswald had no legal representation either 'I'm just a patsy ' sad but true .
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Post  Freedom on Sun 15 Nov 2015, 9:57 am

It was proved I think that three shots could be fired from the gun in the time frame given but how one of them could have been the fatal one from the front is another matter.
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Post  Honeyblade on Sun 15 Nov 2015, 10:06 am

I remember that I saw it done .. Freedom I've seen so many documentaries on it I can never remember what was fact or fiction ..as I said before it seems simplest explanations are best and the 'lost brain' must mean it contained some incriminating evidence .. Although I dint know if it was fact or myth that he was receiving amphetamine injections for his back pain and that is why no autopsy but it's no reason to lose the brain .
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Post  Andrew on Mon 29 Aug 2016, 9:46 pm

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/oliver-stone-reveals-who-really-8729805

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John F Kennedy’s assassination was carried out by the secret service, according to a deathbed confession given to the veteran film director Oliver Stone.

The famed Hollywood movie maker claims he was told the US President ’s murder in 1963 was an inside job by a man who said he was a former member of the presidential security detail.

It is the first time the conversation has been revealed.

Known only as ‘Ron’, the man told Stone that ‘somebody from his own team… had fired on the President’.

The man, who was dying of cancer, said he had only ever told his son but wanted to reveal what he know before passing away.
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Post  Andrew on Mon 29 Aug 2016, 9:52 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3762617/JFK-assassination-inside-job-Ex-government-agent-claimed-team-killed-president-remarkable-deathbed-confession-director-Oliver-Stone.html
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Re: The JFK assassination

Post  Rob Royston on Tue 30 Aug 2016, 7:44 am

Is this Presidential Duper's Delight?


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Post  Andrew on Tue 30 Aug 2016, 8:05 am

Very much so, Rob.

Still thinks it funny that they've got away with this 'deluded gunman' theory all these years later.

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Post  Rob Royston on Tue 30 Aug 2016, 8:32 am

Honeyblade wrote:I remember that I saw it done .. Freedom I've seen so many documentaries on it I can never remember what was fact or fiction ..as I said before it seems simplest explanations are best and the 'lost brain' must mean it contained some incriminating evidence .. Although I dint know if it was fact or myth that he was receiving amphetamine injections for his back pain and that is why no autopsy but it's no reason to lose the brain .
Re the missing brain, in his confession the alleged Grassy Knoll assassin James Files says he fired a mercury round that resulted in the massive head trauma. The person he confessed to was trying to exhume the president's body to look for mercury traces before he himself "died" while recovering in hospital from a routine operation.
There was also the throat wound that some speculated could have been a poisoned dart that stopped the President from taking cover while the shots came in from various directions.

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Post  Freedom on Tue 30 Aug 2016, 9:40 am

Rob Royston wrote:Is this Presidential Duper's Delight?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft3eGWZd7LE

Definitely shades of you-know-who trying not to laugh at inappropriate moments!

I would though like to hear what he said afterwards in case there was an amusing anecdote he was about to recount.
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