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Post  chirpyinsect on Tue 30 Aug 2016, 10:45 am

I've been watching a few videos this morning and, whilst I had heard of the rumours that Gov John Connolly fired the fatal shot, I had never heard that there are rumours of Jackie being involved.
Not saying I believe any one of the theories but I do strongly feel that Lee Harvey Oswald was a patsy.

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Post  Freedom on Tue 30 Aug 2016, 10:51 am

I've never heard that about the governor. It was supposedly a secret service agent whose gun went off accidentally.
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Post  Andrew on Tue 30 Aug 2016, 10:53 am

There are lots of different, highly plausible theories surrounding the assassination of JFK that all equally hold weight.

The only one that doesn't is the 'official' lone gunman one.

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Post  Freedom on Tue 30 Aug 2016, 10:59 am

That is certainly not just your opinion!

I think I mentioned before that it was proved possible for three bullets to have been fired with the rifle claimed to be Oswald's in the relevant time frame but this doesn't explain how one of them could have been the fatal shot from the front.
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Post  chirpyinsect on Tue 30 Aug 2016, 1:28 pm

Freedom wrote:I've never heard that about the governor. It was supposedly a secret service agent whose gun went off accidentally.

Watching the Zapruder footage, there is a strange black line at the bottom of the screen which only happens from just after JFK is shot in the neck till after the fatal shot. It is said this disguises Connolly's gun in his left hand. He was left handed and a crack shot. The film is also said to have been manipulated to show JC facing forward when he was facing backwards looking at his target. Jackie is implicated in some theories as being the one who fired the neck shot then pulling JFK's head over so JC could shoot him but the footage is so grainy, it's impossible to tell.
It is said JC and LBJ were caught with a suitcase containing $100,000 as a payoff for some deal but need to look more into that.

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Post  Freedom on Tue 30 Aug 2016, 2:03 pm

That's a theory too far for me - as if it were possible for nobody to actually see the governor fire a shot!

He himself was very seriously injured in the incident.
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Post  chirpyinsect on Tue 30 Aug 2016, 2:44 pm

Freedom wrote:That's a theory too far for me - as if it were possible for nobody to actually see the governor fire a shot!

He himself was very seriously injured in the incident.

Yep it kind of is for me too. However, knowing a lot more about the capabilities of certain agencies, nothing would surprise me anymore.
As a young girl in 1963 I remember the assasination and the outpouring of grief for JFK. Never did I think for a second that it was anything other than what was reported.

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Post  Freedom on Tue 30 Aug 2016, 2:49 pm

I was a child too and was brought up to respect those in authority so at first there was no question of doubting what was being said.

However, I can remember questions being asked fairly soon afterwards and, by the time that the Warren Commission made its report, there were many who didn't agree with it.

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Post  Rob Royston on Tue 30 Aug 2016, 6:12 pm

Freedom wrote:That's a theory too far for me - as if it were possible for nobody to actually see the governor fire a shot!

He himself was very seriously injured in the incident.
There are many now who say the driver fired the fatal shot, using the film to make their point. Connolly probably knew what was going to happen though, as he said to his wife after being hit by the magic bullet "They're going to kill us all".

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Post  Freedom on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 10:53 am

I saw this programme fairly recently about her.

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Post  Andrew on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 11:28 am

I'll watch that tonight. Interesting stuff. Can't recall ever hearing the name Dorothy Killgallen before scratch
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Post  Freedom on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 11:41 am

It is a bit of a trashy series in my opinion, sort of a TV version of tabloid journalism. It's from 1999.

Here is an interview with the author of the new book on the case.



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Post  Andrew on Fri 28 Apr 2017, 11:26 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4457178/Trump-decide-releasing-Kennedy-assassination-files.html

Could Trump open the Kennedy files? President must decide within weeks on releasing the last secret CIA and FBI assassination files
The 1992 JFK Assassination Records Collection Act set at 25-year timetable for declassification of assassination records dealing with President Kennedy
The law grants sole power to the president to stop declassification
A White House official said it was working with the National Archives on a smooth release of documents
Trump has touted multiple conspiracy theories – and during the campaign brought up a National Enquirer Story that claimed the father of Ted Cruz was pictured with Kennedy assassin Lee Harvey Oswald
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Post  Mimi on Sat 21 Oct 2017, 7:41 pm

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Subject to the receipt of further information, I will be allowing, as President, the long blocked and classified JFK FILES to be opened."


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Post  Mimi on Sat 21 Oct 2017, 10:12 pm

Thanks for moving Freedom - I put kennedy assassination in the search box and nothing came up, which was odd because I was sure there`d been a thread on it.

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Post  Freedom on Sun 22 Oct 2017, 12:31 am

It's rather a strange system. I put in JFK but nothing came up. I knew that there was a topic and had to go through the conspiracy section to find it.
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Post  Winslow Boy on Sun 22 Oct 2017, 12:52 pm

Andrew wrote:I'll watch that tonight. Interesting stuff. Can't recall ever hearing the name Dorothy Killgallen before scratch

The "Men in Black/Spooks " seem to never differ from their MO. Men have heart attacks and women commit suicide/accidental drug overdose.


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Post  Châtelaine on Sun 22 Oct 2017, 12:54 pm

You mean like the late Marilyn Monroe?
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Post  Freedom on Sun 22 Oct 2017, 12:59 pm

I have never believed her death to be anything more than an accidental overdose. If everyone who had a relationship with JFK was killed off, there would have been a chronic shortage of women! 

I'm not even convinced that they had a relationship at all.
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Post  Winslow Boy on Sun 22 Oct 2017, 2:20 pm

Freedom wrote:I have never believed her death to be anything more than an accidental overdose. If everyone who had a relationship with JFK was killed off, there would have been a chronic shortage of women! 

I'm not even convinced that they had a relationship at all.

Judging by her autopsy pictures her face, blood looked like it had settled in her face, so IMO she was face down. Also naked, I know people who commit suicide aren't normally in the right frame of mind, but I'm sure she would have been found glamorous if that was her intention. No note, not unusual but.
Had an enema, so was expecting somebody.

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Post  Freedom on Sun 22 Oct 2017, 5:34 pm

I was about to ask what was that about enemas but there is plenty to be found on the subject!

Here is just one comparatively recent link.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2630449/EXCLUSIVE-Bobby-Kennedy-ordered-Marilyn-Monroes-murder-lethal-injection-prevent-revealing-torrid-affairs-RFK-JFK-dirty-Kennedy-family-secrets-new-book-claims.html

I'm not convinced that Robert Kennedy was ever involved with Marilyn either.
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Post  Mimi on Sun 22 Oct 2017, 8:03 pm

Winslow Boy wrote:
Freedom wrote:I have never believed her death to be anything more than an accidental overdose. If everyone who had a relationship with JFK was killed off, there would have been a chronic shortage of women! 

I'm not even convinced that they had a relationship at all.

Judging by her autopsy pictures her face, blood looked like it had settled in her face, so IMO she was face down. Also naked, I know people who commit suicide aren't normally in the right frame of mind, but I'm sure she would have been found glamorous if that was her intention. No note, not unusual but.
Had an enema, so was expecting somebody.

What a weird thing to say IMO. Moving on ...

There is a theory that she was given a drink to knock her out and then barbiturates were given to her in an enema. The autopsy apparently showed that she couldn`t have swallowed the barbiturates but that they had been absorbed via her large intestine.

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Post  Winslow Boy on Sun 22 Oct 2017, 10:12 pm

Had an enema, so was expecting somebody.

The thinking on this Mimi is that if she had an enema she was waiting for somebody to visit,for a game of hide the sausage. So therefore wouldn't have been taking drugs to make her sleep etc. As she would be in a good mood. If drugs were added to the solution it was murder, no mention of faeces (leakage) or sick on bed clothes etc. And wouldn't have cleaned herself up, because she was dead.

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