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Post  Walt on Sun 22 Nov 2015, 9:16 pm

The sunday times is not known for sensationalism is it.
The rest is hidden behind its paywall.


http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/People/article1636051.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2015_11_21
MORE than 300 people prominent in public life are facing allegations of historic sex abuse, the police chief co- ordinating the investigations has revealed.

Simon Bailey, the chief constable of Norfolk and commander of Operation Hydrant, which is overseeing the inquiries into non-recent child abuse in institutions or by prominent people, also revealed that he is drawing up new guidelines, which will be issued to investigating officers within the next few weeks on how to handle witnesses and alleged offenders.

The move follows growing concerns over the handling of some cases in which witnesses have given lurid accounts of abuse — including murder — and named alleged abusers. A number of the most highly publicised accounts have subsequently turned out to be either impossible to substantiate or fantasy.

Bailey said that of 2,156 people identified by police as suspects, 302 were in positions of public prominence.
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Post  canada12 on Sun 22 Nov 2015, 9:36 pm

300 VIPs accused of child sex abuse
James Gillespie
22 November 2015
The Sunday Times
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MORE than 300 people prominent in public life are facing allegations of historic sex abuse, the police chief coordinating the investigations has revealed.

Simon Bailey, the chief constable of Norfolk and commander of Operation Hydrant, which is overseeing the inquiries into non-recent child abuse in institutions or by prominent people, also revealed that he is drawing up new guidelines, which will be issued to investigating officers within the next few weeks on how to handle witnesses and alleged offenders.

The move follows growing concerns over the handling of some cases in which witnesses have given lurid accounts of abuse — including murder — and named alleged abusers. A number of the most highly publicised accounts have subsequently turned out to be either impossible to substantiate or fantasy.

Bailey said that of 2,156 people identified by police as suspects, 302 were in positions of public prominence.

Of those, 147 are television and radio personalities, 17 sports personalities, 39 from the music industry and 99 elected officials. "But the data increases on a weekly basis," Bailey said in an interview with The Sunday Times.

"We have alleged abuse in 753 institutions to date and 286 deceased offenders."

Bailey warned that media and public attention on alleged VIP child sex abusers was distracting attention from the areas where offending was at its highest: interfamilial abuse, child sexual exploitation and peer-on-peer abuse. "I think we have to be very careful. Elected officials make up 4% of the totality of [Operation] Hydrant — a tiny number," he said.

"The media has the potential to distort the true scale and where the greatest volume of abuse is taking place and it does worry me. The victims who have yet to have the confidence and the courage to come forward won't do it."

Referring to the new guidelines being sent to investigating officers, Bailey said these would still insist that when alleged victims came forward they should be believed. It was this approach that caused problems in the case of "Nick", the most high-profile witness, who claimed to know of three murders carried out by a VIP gang in Westminster which held sex parties at the Dolphin Square apartment complex near the Houses of Parliament.

Initially, a senior officer on the case described Nick's evidence as "credible and true" but the Met had to subsequently withdraw the "true" comment.

Bailey insisted that the police were right to believe witnesses. "If you are a victim of crime and you have the confidence and courage to report that crime — it doesn't have to be sex abuse — it could be that you've been burgled, you would expect to be believed.

"That doesn't mean there is then complete blind faith and we don't look at the evidence and seek corroboration. This is not somebody coming in and someone saying, 'Right, you've told us that, so that has categorically happened.' " He said the police fully understood the impact on people who were identified as alleged abusers. "They should not be named," he said. "There are investigations that the media will never, ever know about. I am acutely aware of the damage this can do to somebody's reputation and I absolutely understand that reputation can potentially never be recovered."

The way in which the BBC was told about a raid on the home of Cliff Richard was a "mistake", Bailey admitted. "The South Yorkshire chief constable has said 'we got that wrong'."

Bailey admitted that in some case doubts over witness claims could emerge. "At some point during an investigation it might — and this happens very rarely — be that some doubt is cast upon the credibility of the victim. So you then have to go and look at that. You are dealing with people who have suffered an awful trauma.

"If the evidence states clearly that [an offence] could not have happened because either the victim wasn't there or the alleged offender was not there, then we have to understand what has happened. "But let's be really clear: it is on very, very rare occasions that it transpires a malicious complaint has been made."

Bailey warned that the internet had been a "game changer" for those pursuing sex with children. "There are now in excess of 100m images of children being abused in circulation; in 1990 there were 7,000," he said.

"We assess there to be 50,000 people looking at indecent images online, between 16%-49% will have been — or are — contact offenders.

"We can be relatively sophisticated about assessing the risk and I think we should be exploring alternatives to the criminal justice system for low-risk people who are not contact offenders. I can't arrest every single one of them. One in five prisoners are now sex offenders and between 40%-50% of crown court time on contested trials now involves allegations of sexual abuse.

"For low-risk people, is there an alternative to prison? I think we should look at it. It could be education or psychiatric work."

It is not known how many officers are involved in investigating child sex abuse cases across the country but the government has already provided an additional £10m to the National Crime Agency for specialist teams to tackle online child sexual exploitation.

The Home Office has provided a special policing grant of £1.7m to Operation Hydrant — which has 12 officers and 28 staff — plus up to £1.5m to support regional child protection co-ordinators and analysts.

Bailey added: "Setting terrorism aside, I think it is the biggest policing challenge of the 21st century."
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Re: 300 VIPs accused of child sex abuse

Post  Walt on Sun 22 Nov 2015, 9:40 pm

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Re: 300 VIPs accused of child sex abuse

Post  AndyB on Mon 23 Nov 2015, 1:53 pm


Bailey said that of 2,156 people identified by police as suspects, 302 were in positions of public prominence.

Of those, 147 are television and radio personalities, 17 sports personalities, 39 from the music industry and 99 elected officials.
So not a single judge, barrister or police officer then. Thats very odd considering there is an going IPCC investigation into the Met over allegations that they covered up child sexual abuse due to police involvement in that abuse (see Independent investigation into Metropolitan Police on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elm_Guest_House_child_abuse_scandal)
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