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Post  costello on Tue 13 Sep 2016, 8:46 pm

Andrew wrote:The latest from the Mirror on this:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/jonbenet-ramsey-murder-shocking-evidence-8826222

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A chilling new docu-series evaluating evidence from JonBenet Ramsey's murder has presented evidence to suggest that the beauty queen's mother could be linked to the ransom note found at the murder scene.

Hardly new and hardly shocking though.

Quite obvious. Yes.

I would agree Andrew. I have always been suspicious of both parents to be honest. I suppose it's so much easier to allow the 'deceased' person to carry the can so to speak. Just my thoughts as ever.
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Re: Jonbenet Ramsey

Post  Andrew on Tue 13 Sep 2016, 9:04 pm

I think the truth has been buried with the Mother on this one. The similarities with this and elsewhere are remarkable to a degree. I hope the truth elsewhere also doesn't get buried.

I've not had time to watch the videos of the brother as yet. But from what I've read then he does seem a bit 'weird' and I suppose understandingly so.

Hate to touch on this, but I could see the twins a bit like that in many years to come if it came to it.

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Post  Freedom on Tue 13 Sep 2016, 9:17 pm

Golly gosh re the Mirror's revelation, they'll be telling us next that the Pope is Catholic!
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Post  Andrew on Tue 13 Sep 2016, 9:31 pm

... Well quite.

But it questions and contradicts the 'official narrative'.. So for the sheeple that don't know a great deal about the case then it's a good thing.

"Ah... So it was the parents wot dun it after all, eh...?"

Something in time which will be said a lot elsewhere no doubt.

The similarities again.



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Post  Andrew on Tue 13 Sep 2016, 9:47 pm

http://www.thewrap.com/jonbenet-ramsey-brother-burke-interview-dr-phil/

A short clip of the interview here.

He looks wired up on drugs.

Also sort of reminds me of the John McCann interview from years ago where he was so full of excitement about the fund he had to hold onto that chair he was sitting on in case he bounced off.
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Post  Freedom on Tue 13 Sep 2016, 9:57 pm

He looks and acts very young for his age in my opinion.

It will be interesting to see the whole interview.
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Post  Andrew on Wed 14 Sep 2016, 10:27 am

http://www.click2houston.com/news/handwriting-of-jonbenet-ramsey-ransom-note-examined-on-dr-phil

http://www.bustle.com/articles/183056-photos-of-the-jonbenet-ramsey-ransom-note-still-leave-a-mystery-to-this-day

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/jonbenet-ramseys-brother-burke-reveals-8829158


Some latest articles on the ransom note / handwriting stuff.

Interesting that Burke claims that he's never actually read the note in full.... Not that I believe that.
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Post  Bloodhound on Wed 14 Sep 2016, 3:24 pm

Search Dr Phil September 12 Ramsey, and the same for 13th on YouTube

I just watched both of them and there is another episode next week.

I'm starting to wonder did her brother bat her on the head with his bat and did her mother finish her off and stage the rest to save her son. He is a weird chap, full of smiles throughout.
I didn't know he had come back downstairs to play after they were put to bed. He might have had some resentment towards her. I hope it all comes out someday and JonBenet gets justice.

It showed a little clip for next week, JonBenet seemingly died on 26th but on her grave stone it says 25th and he is questioning the father on that.

There are so many similarities to th McCann case, with media and lawyers etc.
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Post  Andrew on Wed 14 Sep 2016, 3:53 pm

Thanks Bloodhound. I didn't realise they were on You Tube. Just found them to stick up so can watch this eve.



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Post  canada12 on Wed 14 Sep 2016, 6:21 pm

I remember seeing something about an unsolved murder on tv - I'm not sure if it was one of those Forensic Files docuthingies or if it was fiction... but there was unknown semen found on the knickers of a rape / murder victim and it turned out that whoever had done it had taken a clean pair of the victim's knickers to a washroom in a gas station and wiped them on the toilet so that an unknown person's DNA was present on them, and then had taken the knickers back to the house and dressed the dead victim in them, to throw off the detectives.

As I say, I can't remember if this was fiction or fact, but it would be one explanation for the "unknown person's" DNA on JonBenet's clothing.
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Post  candyfloss on Wed 14 Sep 2016, 6:46 pm

Sounds like a Columbo case Canada, there is a Columbo or maybe something similar, where the perpetrator collects cigarettes from an ashtray in a pub and then leaves them in the ashtray at the crime scene to throw the cops off.  Clever.

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Post  Bloodhound on Thu 15 Sep 2016, 7:35 am

I wonder was DNA samples taken from everyone who visited the house the Ramseys visited that day?

I found it a bit odd too that JonBenet slept through being carried from the car up to her room without waking. Well I got the impression she didn't wake up. It was a cold night, they had some snow. Maybe she died somewhere else.
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Post  Freedom on Thu 15 Sep 2016, 11:41 am

https://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2016/09/09/jonbenet-ramsey-brothers-inappropriate-disturbing-smile-and-body-language-on-dr-phil-interview/

The thought had occurred to me that Burke Ramsey might be autistic.

I haven't heard before that Patsy supposedly said something to Burke while on the phone to the police.

This recording does not confirm that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFMrNtTPaSY
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Post  Andrew on Sat 17 Sep 2016, 9:19 pm

https://www.amazon.com/Death-Innocence-John-Ramsey/dp/0451409736

I actually didn't know they (John and Patsy) wrote a book.

Has anyone read it..?
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Post  Freedom on Sat 17 Sep 2016, 9:38 pm

I've never heard of it!

Whatever else can it be that this blurb reminds me of.......

The Death of Innocence is part memoir, part murder mystery...[It] paints more than a plausible picture of a family victimized at first by the horrific murder of a young girl and then by a relentless media and police campaign to smear their reputation and prove their guilt. As we read their account of the hellishness of their lives since their daughter's murder, we realize that nothing has been fair.

• What the stunning DNA evidence actually revealed
• What the Grand Jury really heard
• The truth about the photographs doctored by the press
• The startling oversights of the Boulder police
• Why officials neglected to follow any other leads
• Every lie, myth, rumor, and innuendo invented by the media to ruin the family's reputation
• The actual findings of forensic experts
• The inside information that could finally bring the real killer to justice
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Re: Jonbenet Ramsey

Post  Andrew on Sat 17 Sep 2016, 9:49 pm

Watching them together is SO like watching the McCanns. (the disapproving stare from he when she interrupts.. etc)

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Post  Andrew on Sat 17 Sep 2016, 9:52 pm

Part 2 of the above video:

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Post  Andrew on Sat 17 Sep 2016, 10:02 pm

Part 3:

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Post  Andrew on Sat 17 Sep 2016, 10:15 pm

Part 4:

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Post  Andrew on Sat 17 Sep 2016, 10:21 pm

Part 5:

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Post  Andrew on Sat 17 Sep 2016, 10:31 pm

Part 6:

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Post  Andrew on Sat 17 Sep 2016, 10:36 pm

Part 7 and the last:

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Post  Andrew on Sat 17 Sep 2016, 10:41 pm

It's fascinating watching these videos. Just watched them all then back to back.

If I was a betting man then I would say the McCanns themselves watched them all back in May 2007 (although they were uploaded in Sept 2007).

Didn't realise the extent of how carbon-copy they both are.

Incredible.
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Re: Jonbenet Ramsey

Post  Andrew on Sun 18 Sep 2016, 12:30 am

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bennett_Ramsey

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patsy_Ramsey
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Re: Jonbenet Ramsey

Post  Freedom on Sun 18 Sep 2016, 10:58 am

This is petty and silly but please humour me!

Patsy's family name was Paugh - how ever was that pronounced? Whether it was Po, Puff, Paff, Pow, Paw or Parf (as in laugh) she must have been glad to change it.

Patsy Po for example!
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