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Post  chilli on Wed 02 Mar 2016, 11:12 pm

Really sad but all too predictable. Fifteen year olds are hard work even when you have a good and strong relationship. They push the boundarys they need to push and although its difficult they need to do it and need your support most then - even if they they don't like it now they will later. Adding a step father into the mix in some cases can bring in a missing father figure but often adds to the confusion and resentment. So sad. Gutted to see the outcome of this case. It brings home the need to cherish, understand and protect my own teenagers.
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Post  Freedom on Fri 04 Mar 2016, 10:07 am

An earlier report on the case of the teenager reported missing in Portugal.

http://portugalresident.com/police-helicopter-scans-land-around-missing-boy%E2%80%99s-home-as-investigation-%E2%80%9Ccentres-on-family%E2%80%9D

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Post  Freedom on Thu 10 Mar 2016, 9:47 pm

http://portugalresident.com/mother-of-slain-algarve-teen-changes-story-on-air

Another report today on the case of the Portuguese teenager.

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Post  Guinea Pig on Fri 11 Mar 2016, 3:49 pm

Andrew wrote:South Africas 'Maddie McCann'........ (except in reality it is absolutely nothing like it)

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/woman-accused-kidnapping-south-african-7428377

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6952244/Mum-of-South-Africas-Maddie-McCann-breaks-down-in-court-as-she-tells-details-of-Zephanys-kidnapping.html

Some articles I was just reading over my cornflakes.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3487141/It-s-like-s-kidnapped-Family-South-Africa-s-Madeleine-McCann-say-fairytale-reunion-turned-nightmare-girl-rejected-woman-snatched-her.html

In cases like this there is unlikely to be a happy ending for the birth family.
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Post  Freedom on Fri 11 Mar 2016, 5:28 pm

Off topic but I saw a programme some years ago about two babies in South Africa who were switched accidentally soon after birth.

http://www.parent24.com/Pregnant/Birth/birth_old/Switched-at-birth-20121016

The programme I saw was made in around 2000 and the boys were then happy to stay with their "wrong" mothers and visit the "right" ones as often as they could.

Now I see that they ended up both living with the biological mother of one of them. A sad ending for the other mother who now has no child at all.

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Post  Andrew on Fri 25 Mar 2016, 8:48 pm


Just been reading about this tragic case about a missing baby that was sadly found not long after.

http://news.sky.com/story/1666901/body-of-missing-toddler-found-near-river

Body Of Missing Toddler Found Near River
The discovery is made near Gosport, Indiana, after a massive search operation involving more than 100 people.
10:57, UK,
Friday 25 March 2016
Man arrested after body of missing girl found
Shaylyn Ammerman went missing from her father's home in Spencer, Indiana


Authorities have found a body thought to be that of a one-year-old girl who went missing from her father's home in Indiana.

State police spokesman Curt Durnil said that the body, which matches the description of Shaylyn Ammerman, was found on Thursday night near the White River, Gosport.

An autopsy will take place on Friday at Owen County coroner's office.

Shaylyn disappeared from her father's home in Spencer on Wednesday, triggering a search by more than 100 people involving the FBI, Indiana Department of Natural Resources and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

Man arrested after body of missing girl found
Teams search the White River near Gosport, Indiana

A 22-year-old man from Spencer has been arrested in connection with her disappearance, Mr Durnil said.

Investigators know the man was in the house on the night Shaylyn disappeared.

Mr Durnil said: "We don't know if he is a family member or a friend. But he was invited into the house."

The girl's father, Justin Ammerman, and grandmother Tamera Morgan were the last people to see Shaylyn late on Tuesday night.

She had been staying at Mr Ammerman's home 50 miles from Indianapolis under a joint custody arrangement.

Ms Morgan said: "I put her to bed around 10:00 or 10:30 and I checked on her at midnight before I went to bed.

"She was laying in her bed sound asleep, and then we went to bed and we woke up and she was gone."

Mr Ammerman said he was "shocked that somebody would do this to me" and said he believes someone took his daughter from her crib.


... and a bit more info on it from this.

http://www.inquisitr.com/2925479/spencer-indiana-man-arrested-after-missing-1-year-old-girl-shaylyn-ammerman-is-found-dead/

A Spencer, Indiana, man was arrested following the discovery on Thursday of the body of a 1-year-old girl who went missing Tuesday.
Kyle Parker, 22, of Spencer, Indiana, was arrested and being held in connection with the toddler’s death, according to a press release.
USA Today reports that the body of Shaylyn Ammerman, the 1-year-old Spencer, Indiana, girl, was found just after 6 p.m. Thursday in a wooded area northeast of Gosport, Indiana, State Police confirmed.

As previously reported by the Inquisitr, Shaylyn was last seen sometime before 8 a.m. Wednesday, prompting a search by more than 100 people, including a search-and-rescue team, FBI agents, Indiana Department of Natural Resources staff, and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, according to ABC News.
Indiana State Police Sgt. Curt Durnil said investigators were led to a remote area of private property, where Indiana Creek meets the White River in south-central Indiana, after “interviewing persons of interest” in the case.
“Information from witnesses and persons of interest led us to that spot.”
According to the release, an autopsy is scheduled for Friday by the Owen County coroner’s office to positively identify the girl and determine the cause of death. Crime scene investigators continue to process the scene where the Spencer, Indiana, toddler’s body was discovered.

According to Shaylyn’s grandmother, Tamera Morgan, she put the girl to bed in her home around 8 p.m. Tuesday and checked on her frequently until about 1:30 a.m. when she went to bed.
Morgan confirmed that the 15-month-old girl’s father, Justin Ammerman, was in the residence with his daughter that night, along with his brother, father, and Parker, who has been preliminarily charged with obstruction of justice, unlawful disposal of a dead body, and failure to report a dead body, according to staff at the jail.
Morgan said she was awakened Wednesday morning to the screams of her son asking her if she had Shaylyn with her.
“He yelled, ‘Mom, do you have Shaylyn?’ I said, ‘Of course, I do not have her. I went directly to her bed. It was empty.”

As a person of interest, Ammerman took a polygraph test in Indianapolis on Thursday to rule him out, Morgan said, adding that her son would never harm his daughter.
“The only explanation is that someone came in and took her.”
Parker’s criminal record includes charges of drug possession, criminal trespassing, and illegal consumption of alcohol, according to court records.

The Indianapolis Star reports that despite Parker’s arrest, the investigation is still ongoing, and others in the home the night Shaylyn went missing are not in the clear just yet, according to Durnil.
“Let me be really frank here. Please don’t feel like because we’ve found a body and we’ve made an arrest that this case is anywhere near over. This case is just getting started with more interviews, with more investigative tactics with everything that we have at our disposal we will use to bring those who are responsible for this little girl’s death to justice.”

According to Morgan, the door to the residence in Spencer, Indiana, was unlocked that night.

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Post  Andrew on Fri 25 Mar 2016, 9:22 pm

A bit more on it.

http://fox59.com/2016/03/24/body-of-missing-1-year-old-spencer-girl-found-suspect-arrested/

Coroner confirms baby found is Shaylyn Ammerman, death ruled homicide by asphyxiation

POSTED 9:41 PM, MARCH 24, 2016, BY GREG MARGASON - DIGITAL PRODUCER


The body of missing 1-year-old Shaylyn Ammerman was found Thursday night.

The toddler's body was found just after 6 p.m. in a remote area located near the White River, northeast of Gosport.

An autopsy performed Friday revealed the toddler died from asphyxiation, and her death was ruled a homicide.

Kyle Parker, 22 of Spencer, was taken into custody Thursday night and is currently being held in connection with this case.

Parker's criminal history started within the last few years. His first known charges were two misdemeanor drug charges. He was accused of possession of paraphernalia and a synthetic or lookalike drug.

Months later, he was back in the court system. He was charged with criminal trespassing. A protection order was filed by his victim.

He was also picked up for possession of marijuana and illegal consumption of an alcoholic beverage.

Records indicate Parker has never been charged with a violent crime. That could change now with this case. He's being held on two counts of obstruction of justice, a count of failure to report a dead body and a count of unlawful disposition of a dead body.

State police said Parker was at the home the night before Ammerman disappeared. There are several more persons of interest in the case, and police said it is far from over.

"Let me be really frank here. Please don’t feel like because we’ve found a body and we’ve made an arrest that this case is anywhere near over. This case is just getting started with more interviews, with more investigative tactics with everything that we have at our disposal we will use to bring those who are responsible for this little girl’s death to justice," said ISP Sgt. Curt Durnil.

An autopsy has been scheduled for Friday.

Shortly before police confirmed the information, Shaylyn's mother Jessica Stewart told FOX59 her daughter's body had been found.


Various law enforcement agencies have been searching for the toddler since she was reported missing Wednesday morning. She was last seen at the home where her father and grandmother live, in the 400 block of West Jefferson Street in Spencer.

During a Thursday afternoon briefing, Sgt. Durnil said the massive search for the 14-month-old girl included search dogs, cadaver dogs, sonar and personnel from multiple law enforcement agencies. He also said the Federal Bureau of Investigation was involved in the case.

Shaylyn’s father, Justin Ammerman, told police his mother put the child down for bed just before midnight Tuesday and when he woke up his daughter was gone.

Ammerman's brother, Adam, as well as other relatives who were in the home told FOX59 that Kyle Parker was there that night, drinking with them.

"I knew Kyle through a friend of a friend and he was supposed to be one good friend and then he turned around and does this to our family and all I can say right now is I hope he burns in hell," Adam Ammerman said.

He also said that Parker was familiar with Shaylyn.

"He knew Shaylyn, he's played with her, he's taken care of her. He rocked her to sleep," Ammerman said.

State police said family members who were also in the home have not yet been cleared and the investigation could take weeks, if not months. Anyone with information is still urged to call police with tips.


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Post  Andrew on Wed 13 Apr 2016, 4:40 pm

This isn't a fake abduction but couldn't find the general missing persons thread (please move mods to appropriate place)

http://news.sky.com/story/1678067/boy-missing-after-failing-to-arrive-at-school

Hope this little chap is found safe and sound a.s.a.p.


Moved from fake abduction topic.

P.S.  He's been found.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-36037813?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_scotland_news&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=scotland
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Post  Bampots on Thu 14 Apr 2016, 10:47 am

interesting article underneath freedoms....
my mother spanked us when we were naughty(really naughty!) and it never detracted from her love. We did smack first once or twice but no more of my four children.....any thoughts.....
The case of a young couple in Norway whose five children were taken away by the state has fuelled mounting concern within the country and abroad over its child protection practices. Protesters around the world - and leading Norwegian professionals - say social workers are often too quick to separate children from their families, with too little justification, particularly when parents are immigrants.
Ruth and Marius's life was torn apart without warning one Monday afternoon last November when two black cars approached the farm where they live in a remote Norwegian valley.
Their two little boys, aged five and two, and their three-month-old baby son, were in their big, bright, modern living room overlooking the steel-grey fjord.
Ruth was waiting as usual for the school bus that would bring back their two daughters, aged eight and 10.

Norway view
But that Monday, it never came. Instead, Ruth saw the two unknown cars. One continued along the main road; the other turned up the farm track - and a woman from the local child protection service knocked at the door.


She told Ruth to come to the police station for interrogation.
The woman said the other black car had taken Ruth's two daughters away, into emergency state care. And she told Ruth to hand over her two older sons to be taken away, too.
The following day, two black cars appeared again. The couple assumed it had all been a terrible mistake and the children had been brought back.
But they were wrong. Four policemen got out. And took the baby.



Media captionRuth and Marius describe how their children were taken away over the course of two days
Those events have triggered a worldwide protest campaign, online and on the streets.
Thousands of people have joined demonstrations in support of Ruth and Marius in a series of countries across four continents. The Norwegian child protection service, known as Barnevernet, has been accused by protesters of "kidnapping" children - in this and many other cases.
But Ruth and Marius's story isn't as simple as some campaigners imply.
They were suspected of administering corporal punishment, and in Norway, that's completely illegal.
Sitting in their living room, surrounded by long-unused toys, Ruth, a paediatric nurse, whose family has lived in the valley for generations, and Marius, a computer expert originally from Romania, are close to tears as they talk about what happened.
Ruth says they did spank the children. But she adds: "Not every time when they do something bad, more occasionally."
"They didn't find any physical marks or anything like that when they had medical examination on them, they were, are, all fine," she says. "But the law in Norway, it is very clear until the smallest detail, it's not allowed of any physical correction, and we have never been aware that it was this strict."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36026458

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Post  Andrew on Thu 14 Apr 2016, 10:49 am

Doesn't bare thinking about what could of happened with that.

Just come across this bizarre one...

http://news.sky.com/story/1678251/mum-and-tv-crew-in-court-over-abduction-case
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Post  Andrew on Sun 24 Apr 2016, 7:49 pm

Was just catching up on the excellent Craig Murray blog and saw reference to this missing boy in the comments section (not by Craig).


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Gosch

and the link from the blog:

http://www.johnnygosch.com/

Just reading up about it now.

(Mods - do you think it's best to move this thread off the 'McCann latest news' topic...)
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Post  Admin on Sun 24 Apr 2016, 8:32 pm

Have done so Andrew and it is now a sticky in Current news so that it stays on top and can be added to, but not too often I hope Crying or Very sad

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Post  Freedom on Wed 27 Apr 2016, 9:50 am

I'm sure that we've mentioned the case of Katrice Lee before but I can't find where at the moment.

Here's a recent update.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36128371

Plus one from 2012.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-16928490

I don't remember any publicity about this case at all when it happened.

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Post  Freedom on Tue 17 May 2016, 10:22 am

Where has "child abduction expert" Chris Clark suddenly sprung from?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3592580/Did-serial-killer-Robert-Black-snatch-two-year-old-girl-British-Army-base-Germany-three-decades-ago.html

Here's an article from 2014 which I didn't see at the time.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/389917/I-fled-CHILD-KILLER-Ex-cop-wife-s-ordeal

I can't find anything to say that he has ever commented on the McCann case.

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Post  seahorse on Tue 17 May 2016, 11:14 am



This from admin of the Katrice Lee Facebook page:


"Right let's make a couple of things VERY CLEAR...

1, The possibility of Robert Black being involved in Katrice's disappearance WAS investigated AND dismissed as it was proven HE WAS NOT IN GERMANY at the time.

2, Despite "QUOTING" Mr Lee in their article, at no point has anyone from the Daily Mirror approached ANY of the Lee family with regards this "fresh" line of enquiry let alone got a quote from them.

3, This article is nothing more than a washed up ex cop trying to get column space to promote his pathetic book about Black.

4, The Daily Mirror should, at the VERY LEAST, offer a FULL PUBLIC apology to the Lee family for the additional distress this pathetic attempt at journalism has caused them.

If any one wants to send the paper and author of this piece a little TWEET then feel free to do so on Twitter using @StephenWhite278 and @DailyMirror
I have sent them a few Tweets via the @HelpFindKatrice account.

Many Thanks."

https://www.facebook.com/groups/MissingKatriceLee/
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Post  Freedom on Tue 17 May 2016, 11:21 am

That doesn't beat about the bush! Here's the Daily Mirror article. 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/evil-child-killer-robert-black-7975162

I did wonder why we've never heard from Chris Clark before if he is such an expert.

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Post  Andrew on Tue 17 May 2016, 11:29 am

http://www.armchairdetective.org.uk/chrisclakauthorarticles.html

Chris Clarke's website and all his work thus far.

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Post  Andrew on Tue 17 May 2016, 11:32 am

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/user/chris_clark

He's on a par with the amount of FOI requests submitted as Mr B.

Well perhaps not that many.
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Post  seahorse on Tue 17 May 2016, 11:40 am

On amazon.co.uk he's just Chris Clark: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Yorkshire-Ripper-Murders-Chris-Clark/dp/1784184187?ie=UTF8&ref_=cm_sw_em_r_dpcod_FP1wvb1YRX5BY_im

But on amazon.com he's Professor Chris Clark no less: http://www.amazon.com/Yorkshire-Ripper-Professor-Chris-Clark/dp/1784184187

Can you buy professorhoods over the counter in the USA?
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Post  Freedom on Tue 17 May 2016, 11:48 am

Probably as regards buying titles!

Well done to the researchers here for rooting out information about Chris Clark. Has anyone actually heard of him before?

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Post  Andrew on Tue 17 May 2016, 11:57 am

In a word, No.
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Post  Freedom on Tue 17 May 2016, 12:14 pm

How strange that this highly qualified "expert" has never attached himself to the McCann case.

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Post  Bampots on Tue 17 May 2016, 3:04 pm

There is plenty of time for that freedom. My biggest gripe about him is the sensationalist manner of his site content which tends to the high profile serial killers with a positive lean....make that slant to the Yorkshire Ripper.

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Post  Freedom on Wed 18 May 2016, 4:32 pm

Let's hope that this won't be quoted as a case to give a certain family fresh hope......

http://www.missingpeople.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=754%3Amissing-matthew-green-found&catid=11&Itemid=160

It will surely be very difficult to rebuild a relationship with someone who cleared off for 6 years without a word to anyone.

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Post  bluebell on Wed 18 May 2016, 11:44 pm

Freedom wrote:Let's hope that this won't be quoted as a case to give a certain family fresh hope......

http://www.missingpeople.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=754%3Amissing-matthew-green-found&catid=11&Itemid=160

It will surely be very difficult to rebuild a relationship with someone who cleared off for 6 years without a word to anyone.


Matthew Green is 32 years old, he can leave home if he wants to surely. ?    I wonder if he'll be in touch with his mum and dad now he's been traced.   I read somewhere his parents have asked Mark WT for help Shocked

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