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Post  Freedom on Wed 03 Feb 2016, 11:31 am

After more than 40 years he has been declared presumably dead.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35481376#"
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Post  Mimi on Thu 04 Feb 2016, 10:48 am

Sandra Rivett`s son, who was adopted, only found out who he was 8 years ago.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3309602/Lucan-s-victim-nanny-s-secret-son-Adopted-baby-Neil-learned-e

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Post  Freedom on Thu 04 Feb 2016, 11:34 am

I can't find a link now but I remember reading that her other son was brought up by his grandparents thinking that his mother was his sister. It wasn't until after she died that he was told the truth.
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Post  Mimi on Thu 04 Feb 2016, 12:23 pm

Freedom wrote:I can't find a link now but I remember reading that her other son was brought up by his grandparents thinking that his mother was his sister. It wasn't until after she died that he was told the truth.

Was it from this picture showing a newspage ? - saying "I was always told she was my sister" . There must be an article by the step brother somewhere. I can`t make out which paper it is.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-459452/The-mother-I-knew-nanny-murdered-Lord-Lucan.html

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Post  Freedom on Thu 04 Feb 2016, 12:32 pm

Yes, that is likely to have been what I saw. Thank you.
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Post  Mimi on Thu 04 Feb 2016, 1:15 pm

https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-79933348.html

Sadly, living in a rented bedsit in 2001. Wonder if he keeps in touch with Neil, his step-brother.

Am quite interested because I used to live in the same area and had my son in the same nursing home as Sandra Rivett - I probably knew the Estate Agent she had an affair with.

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Post  Freedom on Thu 04 Feb 2016, 1:23 pm

I wondered if the brothers (half not step; sorry, I'm being pedantic!) had ever met.

Interesting to hear your connection with the victim - was it around the same time that you were in the nursing home?
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Post  Mimi on Thu 04 Feb 2016, 2:06 pm

Freedom wrote:I wondered if the brothers (half not step; sorry, I'm being pedantic!) had ever met.

Interesting to hear your connection with the victim - was it around the same time that you were in the nursing home?

Yes.

I know the road where Sandra lived - I actually went out with a boy in that road. She also worked in a well known Chemist and so did my Mum. I have some photos somewhere of my Mum with the other girls in the chemist - I must try and find them and see if Sandra is one of them.

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Post  Mimi on Thu 04 Feb 2016, 2:20 pm

If Lucan had thrown himself into the Channel, surely his body would have been washed up somewhere eventually. I tend to think he had help from his friends and escaped. I wonder if they still have the lead pipe that was found in the car at Newhaven. There was apparently blood in that car.

Neil Berriman has said that he thinks Lucan hired a hit man to do it. Maybe Lucan changed his mind and turned up at the house to stop the hit man but was too late. Maybe it was the hitman that drove the car to Newhaven.

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Hiding out in New Zealand...?

Post  Rosa canina on Thu 04 Feb 2016, 9:45 pm

Have you ever heard the rumour that the hit-man was Arnold Schwarzenegger..??


I laughed when Lord Lucan was tracked to Nowheresville, New Zealand :

(and found to be living in a barn with a possum)


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Post  Freedom on Thu 04 Feb 2016, 10:16 pm

A conspiracy theory too far about Arnie and Lord Lucan!

http://www.sickchirpse.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-murder-conspiracy/
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Post  joyce1938 on Fri 05 Feb 2016, 10:25 am

I would think there is good chance ,at 90 years old now ,he is no longer alive ,don't think we shall ever know truth of that ,either? joyce1938
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Post  Freedom on Fri 05 Feb 2016, 10:28 am

He would be 81 now, Joyce, so it's possible he's alive.
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Post  joyce1938 on Fri 05 Feb 2016, 10:59 am

Thanks freedom ,I must have misheard from t v ,I prefer not to requite if I am wrong .joyce1938
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Post  Freedom on Fri 05 Feb 2016, 11:01 am

His date of birth is 18th December 1934.
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Post  Mimi on Fri 05 Feb 2016, 3:33 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9276358/I-helped-Lord-Lucan-live-a-secret-life-in-Africa.html


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Post  Freedom on Fri 05 Feb 2016, 4:51 pm

Gut reaction - a load of old shoe repairers!

I don't believe for a moment that James Goldsmith and John Aspinall would have involved anyone outside their own circle with plans involving Lord Lucan or that this woman had no idea of who he was and what he was alleged to have done.
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Lucan mystery

Post  Andrew on Sat 23 Jul 2016, 8:41 pm

Speaking of conspiracies.....

Was just reading this in the DM.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3704602/Lord-Lucan-bumped-Mafia-style-gambling-friends-helped-escape-Switzerland-new-theory-claims.html
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Post  Andrew on Sun 19 Mar 2017, 10:51 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4327934/Lady-Lucan-FINALLY-speaks-husband-s-disappearance.html

Lady Lucan FINALLY speaks out about the disappearance of her husband 43 years ago: Reclusive wife agrees to appear in documentary to 'get revenge against her son'
Lady Lucan will finally speak about the fateful night her husband disappeared
She has reportedly been seen at various London locations with a film crew
Lord Lucan disappeared in 1974 after nanny Sandra Rivett was found murdered
She is understood to be receiving a £56,000 fee for her appearance in the film



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Post  Guest on Sat 27 May 2017, 11:12 pm

The programme will be broadcast on Monday, 5th June on ITV.

Lady Lucan believes he killed himself.

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Post  Freedom on Sun 28 May 2017, 10:18 am

That should be interesting.

It's sad to hear of the total breakdown of the relationship between Lady Lucan and her children.
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Post  Guest on Sun 28 May 2017, 12:42 pm

From what I've read, it would seem that one of the daughters, who's a QC (Camilla Bingham), doesn't accept that her father killed the nanny as it's circumstantial evidence. FGS.

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Post  Freedom on Sun 28 May 2017, 1:02 pm

I wonder if she now has any accurate memories of that night; she was then 10, now she is in her 50s.

She certainly gave statements at the time that her father was in the house.
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Post  Guest on Sun 28 May 2017, 1:18 pm

I think, wearing her lawyer's hat, she's saying that just because Lucan was in the house at the same time as the nanny was murdered, it doesn't mean that he was the killer.

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Post  poster on Sun 28 May 2017, 2:46 pm

Andrew wrote:Speaking of conspiracies.....

Was just reading this in the DM.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3704602/Lord-Lucan-bumped-Mafia-style-gambling-friends-helped-escape-Switzerland-new-theory-claims.html

This case has long intrigued me although it also maddens me.

Another case in which influential people get away with murder, imo, with protection from friends in high places and the establishment.

Lucan sounded like a nasty piece of work and his wife (and nanny too?) probably got the measure of him which is why he wanted to bump her off I would think. On the other hand, it is of course possible that someone wanted to get rid of the nanny. Or even the nanny and the wife. The assailant hung around long enough to wait for Lady Lucan to go down to the basement to find out why the nanny was taking so long making a cup of tea. Why would the attacker hang around so long? Why not just flee? We know that Lady Lucan was also attacked but managed to escape. As the attacker had already murdered the nanny it would seem logical that s/he had the same fate in mind for Lady Lucan but she managed to escape.

Nannies tend to want to go out on their nights off. Not hang around with their employers making them cups of tea.

Lord Lucan was a gambler and heavy drinker so I would imagine that, with both a wife and nanny at home, he was not particularly involved in childcare. It would be interesting to know more about the relationship between Lady Lucan and the nanny. Nannies are privy to family secrets. Nannies can also take sides in family disputes (and provide evidence in divorce cases).

I wonder if Lady Lucan was worried that she (and/or even the nanny) were in danger? It's not that uncommon for a wife or indeed husband to be bumped off rather than face the trial of a long and bitter divorce battle particularly whenmoney and custody issues are at stake. A divorce trial which went to court, as this one may well have done, tends to air all the family dirty laundry. Lord Lucan's lifestyle would not have been considered compatible with being granted full-time custody of the children, imo.

The Lucan family even got away with the ultimate chutzpah which is not uncommon in such cases where a family want to discredit a bothersome mother. Presumably Lucan wanted to get custody of the children and getting divorced alone would not achieve that. '

Christina Shand Kydd was Lady Lucan's sister. I wonder how she felt about this state of affairs? Her sister's nanny had been brutally murdered. Her sister had also been attacked by the murderer (presumably?) No wonder poor Lady Lucan had a nervous breakdown, who wouldn't? Especially if you suspected, as she did, that the attack was orchestrated by your own husband and the father of your children.


He and his two sisters went back to live with their mother after she recovered from her injuries, but custody was transferred to Bill and Christina Shand Kydd in 1982 amid claims that Lady Lucan had suffered a breakdown.


Surprise, surprise! The name Shand Kydd crops up!


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