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Post  poster on Wed 06 Apr 2016, 4:26 pm

Gerry and Kate McCann and Christopher Jefferies are among those to sign letter calling for PM to clean up the press and implement effective regulation


Oh the sheer irony of this! They fake the abduction of their own child, according to Detective Amaral who also believes that they covered up her death and concealed her body. They encourage massive press coverage. Reported 'sightings' keep the media with stories for years.

The whole thing in a giant scam, imo.

And they talk about 'cleaning up the press'!

How about they start 'cleaning up the press' by admitting what really happened to Madeleine. And admitting what the fund was really for.

IMO!
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Post  Heisenburg on Wed 06 Apr 2016, 4:27 pm

Andrew wrote:
Heisenburg wrote:What's prompted the article though,they've not been negatively portrayed with all the talk of OG carrying on,the £750,000 ready to continue the search,KM feels that Madeleine is still in or around Praia De Luz,GM been set up for a fall?

.... because he knows the sh!t is really about to hit the fan.




Og aren't divulging diidly squat,lets blame the press.
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Re: Hacking issues - involving the McCanns

Post  Heisenburg on Wed 06 Apr 2016, 4:28 pm

chrissie wrote:
Heisenburg wrote:What's prompted the article though,they've not been negatively portrayed with all the talk of OG carrying on,the £750,000 ready to continue the search,KM feels that Madeleine is still in or around Praia De Luz,GM been set up for a fall?

Because he was talking about Leveson and media intrusion and people rightly pointed out that they had paid Bell Pottinger £500,000 to make sure the story was kept in the spot light

I agree but whats brought it on? and why GM for lead singer when the recent press stories have hardly been intruding,where's CM one wonders.


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Re:Gerry McCann 'Hacked off' again- appears on BBC re press intrusion 6.4.16.

Post  costello on Wed 06 Apr 2016, 4:29 pm

Heisenburg wrote:What's prompted the article though,they've not been negatively portrayed with all the talk of OG carrying on,the £750,000 ready to continue the search,KM feels that Madeleine is still in or around Praia De Luz,GM been set up for a fall?

Yes Heisenburg I do think GM has been set up here. I've always thought it was games being played out. He's not going to go down without a fight. Not to mention his remark
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Post  Bampots on Wed 06 Apr 2016, 4:37 pm


http://www.sundayworld.com/news/gerry-mccann-receives-torrent-of-abuse-after-tv-appearance

Gerry McCann receives torrent of abuse after TV appearance

Gerry McCann appeared on BBC news to voice his concern about press intrusion in the UK - and was then subjected to hours of abuse by a host of unsympathetic viewers on Twitter.
The McCanns hit the headlines back in May 2007 when their daughter Madeleine vanished from their holiday villa in Portugal, sparking a worldwide search that has so far failed to find the youngster who would now be 13.

Gerry and his wife Kate have been the subject of huge media scrutiny in the years since Madeleine’s disappearance, with their desire to court publicity in the bid to promote the search for their missing daughter sparking an often vitriolic level of abuse for the couple.

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“The Prime Minister promised us that the victims would remains at the centre of press regulations, but we feel that our views are now being pushed aside and the press barons are now at the centre of this again,” McCann told the BBC.



“We have not seen too many changes with the press. It is incredibly intimidating for people to take on massive media organisations legally. We want proper regulation for the press.”


McCann’s appearance after a period away from the media spotlight served to highlight the level of animosity that remains regarding him and his wife Kate, with his name trending on Twitter in the aftermath of all the mentions, the vast majority of which were not suitable for publication.

There was criticism over reports the McCanns had used a high-profile PR company to help them keep the campaign to find their daughter in the media while others were unhappy that a fresh appeal to help find his daughter was not made

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Re: Hacking issues - involving the McCanns

Post  chrissie on Wed 06 Apr 2016, 4:46 pm

Heisenburg wrote:
chrissie wrote:
Heisenburg wrote:What's prompted the article though,they've not been negatively portrayed with all the talk of OG carrying on,the £750,000 ready to continue the search,KM feels that Madeleine is still in or around Praia De Luz,GM been set up for a fall?

Because he was talking about Leveson and media intrusion and people rightly pointed out that they had paid Bell Pottinger £500,000 to make sure the story was kept in the spot light

I agree but whats brought it on? and why GM for lead singer when the recent press stories have hardly been intruding,where's CM one wonders.

Ah got you, sorry. Probably because they know something is going to happen soon, I hope.
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Post  Andrew on Wed 06 Apr 2016, 5:27 pm

You'd actually think he would have nothing but praise for the press and the Government.

And be bending over backwards to get both on side as much as possible.

Clearly not. Interesting.

Always said April was the 'time'.

Neck on the line but I really hope I'm right.

A few more weeks to go anyway.
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Post  espeland on Wed 06 Apr 2016, 6:02 pm

Andrew wrote:You'd actually think he would have nothing but praise for the press and the Government.

And be bending over backwards to get both on side as much as possible.

Clearly not. Interesting.

Always said April was the 'time'.

Neck on the line but I really hope I'm right.

A few more weeks to go anyway.


With the Portuguese decision due anytime, it's more than encouraging that the £500,000 paid for PR is so widely quoted now: if the decision favours Dr Amaral, are the UK press likely to remain silent? I think not. Dr Amaral will be giving plenty of quotes which will be widely reported. Sure the McCanns can appeal, but it will be too late.

And I don't imagine Katie Hopkins will remain silent for too long if the McCanns ignore or refuse her invitation to go on LBC.

And why are OG continuing, even though with a very small team? Can they still be looking for Madeleine? Or waiting for something else to happen? It would look mighty odd if they closed and then all was revealed from Portugal. Mind you, OG has looked mighty odd for quite some time.

It may not be this month, but very soon.

No wonder Gerry looks ill Very Happy

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Post  costello on Wed 06 Apr 2016, 6:28 pm

espeland wrote:
Andrew wrote:You'd actually think he would have nothing but praise for the press and the Government.

And be bending over backwards to get both on side as much as possible.

Clearly not. Interesting.

Always said April was the 'time'.

Neck on the line but I really hope I'm right.

A few more weeks to go anyway.


With the Portuguese decision due anytime, it's more than encouraging that the £500,000 paid for PR is so widely quoted now: if the decision favours Dr Amaral, are the UK press likely to remain silent? I think not. Dr Amaral will be giving plenty of quotes which will be widely reported. Sure the McCanns can appeal, but it will be too late.

And I don't imagine Katie Hopkins will remain silent for too long if the McCanns ignore or refuse her invitation to go on LBC.

And why are OG continuing, even though with a very small team? Can they still be looking for Madeleine? Or waiting for something else to happen? It would look mighty odd if they closed and then all was revealed from Portugal. Mind you, OG has looked mighty odd for quite some time.

It may not be this month, but very soon.

No wonder Gerry looks ill Very Happy


Yes I agree espeland.


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Post  Dee Coy on Wed 06 Apr 2016, 7:18 pm

Andrew wrote:For reference - this is the letter wrote to the PM.

Dear Prime Minister,

We write to you as people who have experienced press abuses and who look to you to ensure that such abuses are not inflicted on others in the future.

You made many promises on this issue in 2011-13, not only to us in private meetings but also publicly in Parliament, under oath at the Leveson Inquiry and in the form of the historic cross-party agreement on press self-regulation which you signed as Prime Minister only three years ago.

You promised, for example, to ‘make doubly sure that we get to the bottom of what happened’ when press standards collapsed. You said:

‘What is absolutely vital is that we put in place a regulatory system that they [the victims of press abuse] can see has real teeth.’

You pledged:

‘The relationship between politicians and the media must change.’

We want to express our frustration and dismay that, five years on, these solemn promises have not been kept, and we urge you to honour them now.

We were extremely disappointed last October when the culture secretary said he was delaying indefinitely one of the essential measures in the cross-party agreement – Section 40 of the Crime and Courts Act 2013 – that was designed to give independent press regulation ‘real teeth’ and was a key recommendation of the Leveson Inquiry - one you said that you accepted.

Worse, by delaying or shelving this measure your government will deny the public the low-cost access to justice that Leveson intended. Some of us know from experience how daunting it is for an ordinary citizen to take a big newspaper corporation to court for libel or invasion of privacy. In the cross-party agreement you undertook to deliver this low-cost justice through Section 40, but now it appears that you want to break that promise.

We urge you to commence Section 40 without delay.

We have also been concerned to read, through newspaper articles sourced from the Government, that you are seeking to cancel the crucial second phase of the Leveson Inquiry. Since this is meant to establish how lawbreaking took hold in our press, why the police failed to stop it and who was  responsible, we need hardly say why this is of such vital public importance.

Not only did you promise that the inquiry would get to the bottom of this lawbreaking, but you also stated explicitly of Leveson 2:

‘It is right that it should go ahead and that is fully our intention.’

We urge you now to remove any doubt by confirming that the second phase of the Leveson Inquiry will go ahead without fail once the last criminal trials have concluded.  

Some of us wrote to you on some of these issues in November, asking you either to act then or to meet us face to face to explain your position. You declined to do either. This amounts to another breach of promise, for in 2011 you declared:

‘We must at all times keep the victims front and centre of this debate.’

Instead, you have met with newspaper editors and proprietors on a regular basis.  For example, between June and December 2015 you met with Rupert Murdoch and his editors on no fewer than seven occasions.  Our request for a meeting with you continues to be ignored.

At your suggestion some of us met on 24th March with the Culture Secretary.  He refused to agree to the implementation of the costs incentives by commencing section 40. Once again, he was unable to give us any explanation as to why your promises were being broken.

We believe that it is not just us whom you are at risk of betraying, but Parliament, the public at large and the future victims of a press industry which was condemned by Leveson for ‘wreaking havoc in the lives of innocent people’. If your promises are not kept, history tells us that newspapers will wreak that havoc again.

It is not too late. Please honour your promises.

We are copying this letter to the other signatories of the cross-party agreement and to the leaders of the other political parties in Parliament.  We invite them to join us in demanding that you keep the promises you made.

Yours,




Snipped from this:

http://www.thedrum.com/news/2016/04/06/press-intrusion-victims-condemn-david-cameron-failing-continue-leveson-inquiry

Bejeezus! Talk about biting the hand that feeds you! The Government re-opened the investigation and have just paid to extend OG for another 6 months, according to Tracey Kandohla. There's gratitude.

One would almost think they aren't happy OG continues....

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Re: Hacking issues - involving the McCanns

Post  Dee Coy on Wed 06 Apr 2016, 7:26 pm

Been working, just seen the video when I got in.

I think he's aged. That's why he looks tired and bedraggled. Like Kate.

Fear of the unknown?

Interesting that one article said he'd been away from the spotlight for a while. Are they keeping tabs in anticipation?

http://www.sundayworld.com/news/gerry-mccann-receives-torrent-of-abuse-after-tv-appearance?

"McCann’s appearance after a period away from the media spotlight served to highlight the level of animosity that remains regarding him and his wife Kate, with his name trending on Twitter in the aftermath of all the mentions, the vast majority of which were not suitable for publication."


Blimey - they are frank words. "The level of animosity that remains regarding him and his wife Kate..." Just wow. They are admitting there is a lot of ill-feeling out here with regards to them, and nothing to do with Levison. And the use of his surname only - McCann. Surely not often seen since arguido days?

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Post  Dee Coy on Wed 06 Apr 2016, 7:55 pm

Just had a thought - probably a blatantly obvious one which doesn't need voicing.

Since Levison there have been no press-related scandals of note. The moguls seem generally to be behaving themselves. GM states IPSO is unfit for purpose, but is it? There are no disgruntled rumblings so has Cameron simply decided to be diplomatic, let sleeping dogs lie and that is why section 40 has been seemingly shelved? The McCanns haven't been the centre of any negative reporting so what's pricked this mongrel from it's slumber?

And why has GM chosen to be the voice-piece to bring this issue to the forefront just now? What's prompted this open letter to raise the issue again? Is it the McCanns themselves who've pushed this inititative and that's why GM was the spokesman?

If so, the only conclusion is that they want to gag the press very much indeed right now. Are things out of control? Don't they know how the land is lying and are they being kept out of the loop? Are they worried the press are going to start digging again, or simply report on something that is about to blow?

Is this desperation?

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Post  Andrew on Wed 06 Apr 2016, 8:41 pm

@Dee,

They want to gag the press. They know it's only a matter of time.

Get in first... Which is an obvious TM trait.

Things are clearly out of TM control. Now.

(Hey, if it was a conspiracy then none of us would know the name Madeleine)

The press have been digging (and saving) for a long time now.

Something is about to blow.

And Smithman is as desperate that i've ever seen him.
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Post  Dee Coy on Wed 06 Apr 2016, 9:59 pm

Talk about backfiring! His attempt to pre-empt has sent thousands of curious new people to the McCann PJ files.

Look at the Live feed! And everyone seems intrigued by Yvonne Martin's statement. Blimey. O. Riley.

http://live.feedjit.com/live/mccannpjfiles.co.uk/0/

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Post  chirpyinsect on Thu 07 Apr 2016, 6:15 am

How does that work DC? Never seen that site before. Does it count the traffic to the files?

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Post  costello on Thu 07 Apr 2016, 7:33 am

Yes Chirpy it does count the traffic.It was also really high with KH's article.
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Post  candyfloss on Thu 07 Apr 2016, 11:01 am

Investigative reporter for BBC said this yesterday..............



Simon Cox ‏@simoncoxreports · 21h21 hours ago

The vitriol and pomposity about Gerry McCann is predictable, depressing and ill informed. Twitter at its worst




Oh dear Rolling Eyes




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Post  candyfloss on Thu 07 Apr 2016, 11:06 am

Perhaps Neil Wallis rather upset him......



Neil Wallis ‏@neilwallis1 · Apr 6

Astonishing that @BBCr4today teaming up with @guardian yet again to continue attacks on press by recycling self-serving Gerry McCann whinges




Neil Wallis ‏@neilwallis1 · Apr 6

Yes, BBC happy to be puppets of HackedOff to recycle their self-serving anti-Free Press agenda




Neil Wallis ‏@neilwallis1 · Apr 6

Shocking that @BBCr4today happy to be mouthpiece to HackedOff's Gerry McCann yet doesn't even pretend to get balance to refute his nonsense




Neil Wallis ‏@neilwallis1 · 23h23 hours ago

Not Free Speech I'm criticising, it's hypocrisy....and @BBCr4today & @BBCNews uncritically recycling his tosh



Neil Wallis ‏@neilwallis1 · 22h22 hours ago

Agree - so why didn't @BBCr4today & @BBCNews have someone on to refute McCann sweeping & misleading generalisations?









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Post  Poe on Thu 07 Apr 2016, 11:30 am

I can't find Gerry or his letter on any of the major un-paywalled newspapers.

Has anyone seen anything either online or in print?

Usually when a McCann says, "jump" the newspapers all scramble to ask, "how high?" but this time there's nothing.

Sky News have also been unusually quiet.

I know that the media were condemned for their behaviour but Gerry tried to spin the whole thing as being David Cameron's fault to give the various news outlets a story. Their silence makes it look like he's made some powerful enemies.


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Post  AndyB on Thu 07 Apr 2016, 11:58 am

Dee Coy wrote:
Talk about backfiring! His attempt to pre-empt has sent thousands of curious new people to the McCann PJ files.
That's another example of the Streisand Effect
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Post  Andrew on Thu 07 Apr 2016, 12:10 pm

@Poe - I posted the letter for ref, yesterday.

On previous page. If that's the one you mean...
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Post  costello on Thu 07 Apr 2016, 12:45 pm

'The press and the politicians are too close' well that is rich coming from GM.
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Post  Heisenburg on Thu 07 Apr 2016, 2:32 pm

candyfloss wrote:Investigative reporter for BBC said this yesterday..............



Simon Cox ‏@simoncoxreports  · 21h21 hours ago  

The vitriol and pomposity about Gerry McCann is predictable, depressing and ill informed. Twitter at its worst




Oh dear Rolling Eyes




Then the same BBC got upset when reporting restrictions weren't lifted do to social media comments,talk about double standards.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-35977100

The BBC appealed against the order on the principle of open justice in British courts, and the fact that many modern web browsers allow instant sharing to social media.
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