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Post  candyfloss on Tue 30 Jun 2015 - 12:46

Putting this here as don't know where else to put them, both cases are ongoing...



Mark Williams-Thomas ‏@mwilliamsthomas · 29 mins29 minutes ago
In last 5 days I have heard of two police forces who yrs ago 'effectively' covered up sexual abuse when reported about 2 police personell



Mark Williams-Thomas ‏@mwilliamsthomas · 29 mins29 minutes ago
Both cases are on going but when I can I will expose what was known about both individuals and let the public decide



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Re: The wonders of Mark Williams-Thomas

Post  Andrew on Thu 12 May 2016 - 11:09

seahorse wrote:
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seahorse wrote:Thanks Satsuma and Freedom. I would like to read the initial stories that came out in the press. Will see if they are available in my local library. I've reserved Kerry Needham's book, so hopefully I can read it soon.

You can read parts of it here.. Well the first 10 chapters.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=nSOyiRaQTyQC&dq=ben+needham&q=

Thanks, read some of it.

Mark Williams-Thomas (who's he again?) sticking his oar in. Bitter man imo.

https://twitter.com/mwilliamsthomas/with_replies

MWT..... Investigative Journalist, former Policeman and a complete clown when it comes to anything McCann related.

I didn't know that he set up a Child Protection Agency in 2005 though.

Anyway his stance on Madeleine is that she was abducted by an opportunistic predatory paedophile.

My stance is that he's a self-serving opportunist who couldn't wait to jump on the McBandwagon for his own interests. Like everyone else who backed the wrong horse initially but couldn't and wouldn't admit it.

So he pipes up from time to time and tries to reinforce the abduction bollox with his 'expertise guff'. Anything for a McFavour.

Imo etc..
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Post  seahorse on Thu 12 May 2016 - 11:31

But he always catches the villain, well according to himself that is:

"Mark Williams-Thomas ‏@mwilliamsthomas  · May 7  
My inquiries worrying u @Scambusters999 aka Jamie Millard u r wanted by '2' police forces. It's a matter of time-I always catch the villain"

Shame he hasn't caught any abductors yet.

Here is some original news reporting when Ben (then referred to as Benny) went missing. It was aired 5 days after his disappearance.

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Post  Andrew on Thu 12 May 2016 - 11:58

Sorry - don't mean to take this off topic. But was just looking into this MWT chap. On his wiki page thingy it says his company - WT associates, which is a child protection consultancy firm, was set up in 2005.

However him and his Mrs actually set this up in July 2007.

As I said before - all about jumping on the McBandwagon.
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Post  Freedom on Thu 12 May 2016 - 12:04

2005 and January 2006 per his LinkedIn profile.

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/mark-williams-thomas-ma-pg-dip-2b58843

Where does the date in 2007 come from?

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Post  seahorse on Thu 12 May 2016 - 12:10

Matters2Me and WT Associates set up on 22 June 2007:

https://www.duedil.com/company/06276210/wt-associates-limited
https://www.duedil.com/company/06276209/matters2me-limited
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Post  Andrew on Thu 12 May 2016 - 12:13

I got it from this...

https://companycheck.co.uk/company/06276210/WT-ASSOCIATES-LIMITED/about

Says 12th June.

(apologies I think I said July earlier)
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Post  seahorse on Thu 12 May 2016 - 12:20

Yes, I got it wrong,  it's the 12th June.
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Post  Andrew on Thu 12 May 2016 - 12:28

So on his linkedin thingy he says he formed the company in 2005.

Scroll down a bit and he says he became a director in 2006.

But in reality the company was formed in June 2007.

What a clown.
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Post  Freedom on Thu 12 May 2016 - 12:34

It's possible that the company existed before 2007 - with him as the sole or joint trader - but that's when it was registered as a limited one.

Per LinkedIn he's now claiming to have been in the police force for only a year.

Everything before 2005 has been whooshed!

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Post  Châtelaine on Thu 12 May 2016 - 12:39

I read long ago, that whilst in the force, he was patrolling & picking chewing gum from the sidewalks ...
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Post  Andrew on Thu 12 May 2016 - 12:41

... I personally think he's just full of it and in cuckoo land.

A fantasist by the looks of it too.
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Post  Freedom on Thu 12 May 2016 - 12:43

That wasn't part of his police duties!

Between 2001 and 2002, Williams-Thomas was the marketing manager and a director of GumFighters, a "national chewing gum removal specialist". The company were hired by various councils to clean their streets.

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Post  Andrew on Thu 12 May 2016 - 12:47

Freedom wrote:That wasn't part of his police duties!

Between 2001 and 2002, Williams-Thomas was the marketing manager and a director of GumFighters, a "national chewing gum removal specialist". The company were hired by various councils to clean their streets.

Or otherwise known as 'community service'.
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Post  Freedom on Thu 12 May 2016 - 12:58

Previous posts transferred from the Ben Needham topic.

A man with a somewhat variable employment history.

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Post  seahorse on Thu 12 May 2016 - 13:00

Andrew wrote:
Freedom wrote:That wasn't part of his police duties!

Between 2001 and 2002, Williams-Thomas was the marketing manager and a director of GumFighters, a "national chewing gum removal specialist". The company were hired by various councils to clean their streets.

Or otherwise known as 'community service'.

Laughing

So why did he leave the CID that he so loved?
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Post  Freedom on Thu 12 May 2016 - 13:06

From memory he claims to have left the police force in 2000 to study at Birmingham City University - a brave venture when he had a young family to support. 

Just found his opinion on the Oscar Pistorius case - - I don't think he has a lot of support there.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/mark-williams-thomas-believe-oscar-pistorius-4197593

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Post  Andrew on Thu 12 May 2016 - 13:08

Snipped from his wiki:

Williams-Thomas served as a constable and family liaison officer with Surrey Police[5] from 1989 to 2000.[2] He was reportedly awarded several commendations.

Apart from a PSCO, then a constable is the lowest ranking position.

'reportedly awarded' so in other words he wasn't and MWT dreamt he had.

What makes this chap an expert as he proclaims to be.......
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Post  Freedom on Thu 12 May 2016 - 13:14

Other reports say that he was a defective - sorry, detective.

http://www.bcu.ac.uk/social-sciences/criminology/employability/mark-williams-thomas

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Post  Andrew on Thu 12 May 2016 - 13:22

Detective..... Nothing like sprucing up your Job Title. PC plod didn't quite cut it. Nor did he and probably got the boot for being useless.

This chap is away with the fairies.

I'm sure you'll dig out another article that says he was a former Chief Superintendent or something...
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Post  Châtelaine on Thu 12 May 2016 - 14:38

He will be remembered [at any rate by me] for his ITV interview with Hazel, stepgrandfather of Tia Sharp, whilst the dead body of the poor girl [murdered by him - Hazel] was laying directly above their heads in the attic ...
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Post  Andrew on Thu 12 May 2016 - 15:26

http://williams-thomas.co.uk/sites/default/files/Review%20of%20Madeleiene%20McCann%20Investigation.pdf

Here's former PC Plods 'expert' review and analysis on the Madeleine McCann case complete with personal recommendations.

This guy is truly amazing. He can't get a promotion in 11 years of being stuck at the bottom of the ladder in the Police. Decides he's had enough so picks up chewing gum off the streets for a year. Writes some stories in between then sets up a company in offering Child Protection Services that was formed just after Madeleine vanished which out of nowhere he's now an expert in. And also an expert in how high-profile Police Investigations should be carried out. Extraordinary stuff.

Anyway he does mention the dogs but quickly glosses over it then practically dismisses them.

(Incidentally I read somewhere earlier that his company was hired by the McCanns which he admitted at first but then refuted as it was a bit awkward. Can't remember where now though, but will look again later)

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Post  candyfloss on Thu 12 May 2016 - 15:32

Haven't read all this but looks interesting.....


https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/mr_mark_williams_thomas_and_holm

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Post  Andrew on Thu 12 May 2016 - 15:39

candyfloss wrote:Haven't read all this but looks interesting.....


https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/mr_mark_williams_thomas_and_holm

It's a shame they didn't actually get round to answer any of it.

Did they conveniently forget...
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Post  candyfloss on Thu 12 May 2016 - 15:41

Andrew wrote:http://williams-thomas.co.uk/sites/default/files/Review%20of%20Madeleiene%20McCann%20Investigation.pdf

Here's former PC Plods 'expert' review and analysis on the Madeleine McCann case complete with personal recommendations.

This guy is truly amazing. He can't get a promotion in 11 years of being stuck at the bottom of the ladder in the Police. Decides he's had enough so picks up chewing gum off the streets for a year. Writes some stories in between then sets up a company in offering Child Protection Services that was formed just after Madeleine vanished which out of nowhere he's now an expert in. And also an expert in how high-profile Police Investigations should be carried out. Extraordinary stuff.

Anyway he does mention the dogs but quickly glosses over it then practically dismisses them.

(Incidentally I read somewhere earlier that his company was hired by the McCanns which he admitted at first but then refuted as it was a bit awkward. Can't remember where now though, but will look again later)

I seem to remember that too.

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