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Post  Popcorn on Tue 14 Jun 2016, 10:39 pm

I don't know what to make of this in the Daily Telegraph.

"He befriended the McCanns in the weeks after their daughter went missing, entertaining them at his house on two occasions and keeping in contact by phone and email.

The McCanns are said to be “horrified” by the discovery that Freud was a paedophile."
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Post  poster on Tue 14 Jun 2016, 11:03 pm

Interesting....
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Post  costello on Tue 14 Jun 2016, 11:28 pm

Very interesting indeed.
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Post  Bampots on Tue 14 Jun 2016, 11:32 pm

study

You know the more it goes on the less it keeps simple!

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Post  costello on Tue 14 Jun 2016, 11:41 pm

Bampots wrote:study

You know the more it goes on the less it keeps simple!


Yes I agree Bampots. I can remember reading 'madeleine' and Kate seemed to be a tad in awe of Sir Clement, not to mention the wonderful meal he cooked for them!
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Post  Bampots on Tue 14 Jun 2016, 11:48 pm

And here's another one for you.......courtesy of Der Telegraph.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/culture-obituaries/tv-radio-obituaries/5163084/Sir-Clement-Freud.html

Now who do we know attended Dundee?


His Parliamentary commitments did not limit his wider activities. In 1974 he was elected Rector of Dundee University, winning re-election three years later ahead of the soft porn star Fiona Richmond. He also used his political appeal to advance a lifelong commitment to children’s welfare.

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Post  costello on Tue 14 Jun 2016, 11:56 pm

Kate McCann studied at Dundee University I'm sure.
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Post  Hope on Tue 14 Jun 2016, 11:59 pm

Wow another supporter falls, the house of cards are tumbling fast. This is amazing,every week the media seem more daring.
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Post  Hope on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 12:02 am

Ms Lorraine Kelly was rector there for 3 years.
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Post  canada12 on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 12:41 am

And Clarence Mitchell worked for Freud Communications, which was founded by Matthew Freud, the son of Sir Clement Freud.

Do any dots need joining?
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Post  costello on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 12:49 am

canada12 wrote:And Clarence Mitchell worked for Freud Communications, which was founded by Matthew Freud, the son of Sir Clement Freud.

Do any dots need joining?

Am I correct in thinking Matthew Freud is or was married to Rupert Murdoch's daughter?

Just checked Matthew Freud was married to Elisabeth Murdoch they divorced in 2014.


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Post  canada12 on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 12:53 am

Yes just looked that up myself. Interesting and more interesting.
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Post  costello on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 12:56 am

Thanks C12. I had a quick check too.
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Post  canada12 on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 1:14 am

There was a rumour back in 2007 that "someone" (ostensibly a VIP) had left PDL very quickly by private plane on the night Madeleine disappeared.

Do we believe Kate when she writes that the Freud invitation came "out of the blue"?

Is there proof that Clement Freud was not in PDL at the same time as Madeleine?

Is this the final line of inquiry that Operation Grange was investigating?
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Post  candyfloss on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 6:36 am

How Clement Freud invited Kate and Gerry McCann for lunch after Madeleine disappeared

Kate and Gerry McCann were two months into the search for their missing daughter Madeleine when they received a letter out of the blue.
It was from Sir Clement Freud, inviting them for a meal at his holiday home in Praia da Luz, a short drive from the Ocean Club, where Madeleine had vanished on May 3, 2007.

“I’m embarrassed to admit that Gerry and I thought this letter was a hoax,” Mrs McCann wrote in her book, Madeleine.

Gerry McCann phoned the number on the letter, discovered it was not a prank, and the next day the McCanns were at Freud’s villa with their twins Sean and Amelie, plus three friends who had stayed in Portugal to help them.

Freud, 83, broke the ice by offering them strawberry vodka.
“I’m usually very intimidated by people with brains the size of planets,” wrote Mrs McCann, “but Clement was incredibly warm, funny and instantly likeable.”
He cooked a “bloody marvellous” meal of watercress and egg salad followed by a chicken and mushroom risotto, “the best risotto we’ve ever tasted before or since”.
Mrs McCann wrote: “Clement cheered us up with his lugubrious wit, and would continue to do so by email after his return to England.”
By August 31, after spending a few weeks in England, Freud was back in Portugal and called Gerry McCann as soon as he arrived.

Freud made a joke out of newspaper reports that Mr McCann was close to a breakdown. “Thank God for people like Clement who kept us smiling,” Mrs McCann wrote.

On the day the McCanns were formally made suspects in the investigation in September 2007, they had been due to go to dinner at Freud’s house again, but cancelled it.

Nevertheless, he rang them at 9.50pm that night to invite them for a drink, while warning them: “You’ll have to forgive my night-time attire.”
Mrs McCann recalled: “We found Clement watching a cookery programme, dressed, as promised, in his nightshirt. It was so ordinary and comforting, a bit like going to see your grandad after a horrible day at school.


“He gave me one of his looks and a giant glass of brandy, and managed to get a smile out of me with his greeting: ‘So, Kate, which of the devout Catholic, alcoholic, depressed, nymphomaniac parts is correct?’

“His response to our catalogue of horrors was merely to raise an eyebrow. Clement had this way of making everything seem a little less terrible. When he heard about the [sniffer] dogs [which had indicated the scent of death in the McCann’s hire car], he remarked laconically, ‘So what are they going to do? Put them on the stand? One bark for yes, two for no?’


“He was right, of course; it was ridiculous. A couple of hours later, fortified by our brandies (it was my first-ever taste of the stuff), some useful snippets of advice and several amusing anecdotes, we left our friend feeling quite a bit better than we had when we’d arrived.”

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/how-clement-freud-invited-kate-and-gerry-mccann-for-lunch-after-madeleine-disappeared

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Post  candyfloss on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 6:40 am

Sir Clement Freud exposed as a paedophile as police urged to probe Madeleine McCann links



Sir Clement Freud, the former broadcaster and politician, was exposed on Tuesday night as a paedophile who sexually abused girls as young as 10 for decades.

Freud, who died in 2009, spent years abusing a girl who he brought up as a daughter, and violently raped a teenager while he was an MP.

His widow, Lady Freud, has apologised to his victims, saying she is “shocked, deeply saddened and profoundly sorry” for what her husband of 58 years did to them.

Detectives investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCan n have been alerted to the fact that Freud had a villa in Praia da Luz, Portugal, the resort where the three-year-old went missing in 2007.


He befriended the McCanns in the weeks after their daughter went missing, entertaining them at his house on two occasions and keeping in contact by phone and email.

The McCanns are said to be “horrified” by the discovery that Freud was a paedophile.

His family, who include the PR executive Matthew Freud, have said that Freud was not in Portugal at the time of Madeleine’s disappearance and that they have not been contacted by police.


However, officers from Operation Grange, the ongoing Metropolitan Police investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance, are expected to assess the new information before deciding if it may be relevant to the inquiry.


Freud was unmasked as a child sex abuser after one of his victims contacted ITV’s Exposure documentary team, who also broke the story of Jimmy Savile’s paedophilia four years ago.
Sylvia Woosley said Freud befriended her family in 1948, when he was working at a hotel in the South of France, and started abusing her when she was 10.

Four years later, following a family crisis, her mother asked Freud and his wife Jill if they would look after Mrs Woosley, and she found herself living under the same roof as her abuser, being brought up as a daughter. The abuse continued until she managed to move away when she was 19.
Another woman told ITV that Freud started abusing her in the 1970s, when she was 11, and eventually raped her when she was 18, by which time he was a Liberal MP sharing an office with Cyril Smith, who was also unmasked as a paedophile after his death . The rape was so brutal that his victim bled for a week.

Both women’s accounts have been passed on to the Metropolitan Police.
Lady Freud said: “This is a very sad day for me. I was married to Clement for 58 years and loved him dearly. I am shocked, deeply saddened and profoundly sorry for what has happened to these women. I sincerely hope they will now have some peace.”


Clement Freud was held in great affection by the British public



Freud, who was knighted in 1987, was best known as a popular panellist on the Radio 4 show Just a Minute from 1967 until his death in 2009.

The grandson of the psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud and the brother of the painter Lucian Freud, he worked his way into the heart of British society, and when he died the then Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, was among the mourners at his funeral.

His five children include Matthew Freud and the broadcaster Emma Freud.

A spokesman for the McCann family said they had not until now been aware of Freud’s child abuse and were not aware that he had ever been investigated by Operation Grange.



The Metropolitan Police did not respond to questions about Operation Grange, but former murder squad detective Colin Sutton said: "If this is something that investigators had not been aware of then it would be certainly a potential line of inquiry that would be worth pursuing.


"It is not something that ought to be taken lightly and you would also want to look any connections he may have had in the area at the time."



http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/sir-clement-freud-exposed-as-a-paedophile-as-police-urged-to-probe-madeleine-mccann-links/

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Post  candyfloss on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 6:42 am

Well now very interesting and the plot has really thickened, and interesting yet another 'Sir' exposed...... it just gets worse.  Shocked   My bolded in the above article.

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Post  canada12 on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 6:52 am

Seldom do pedophiles operate in isolation. They maintain networks. They have friends and sometimes family members who share similar interests. There are people who assist them, directly or indirectly, by turning a blind eye, or by collaborating. They share photographs and videos. Sometimes they share real children. Sometimes things go very wrong.

I'm not suggesting Clement Freud may have had anything directly to do with Madeleine's disappearance - and from the information made public it appears his interest was in children older than Madeleine.

However, he had a house in PDL.

Did he make it available to his friends... his network?

Who among his friends, his network, might have been in PDL when Madeleine disappeared?

Why did Kate make a point of saying the invitation to Clement Freud's house came out of the blue? Did it come out of the blue? Did they know him previously?

Very very difficult questions to consider, however here might be a smoking gun, if there ever was one. A diligent police inquiry would look into all of these things.


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Post  Bampots on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 7:00 am

My,very,goodness Candfloss(6.36am no less!!)we are up with the larks today. Has something seismic happened do you think?

So what's it to be then.....has Clement snatched a babe from the arms of its ma? Nah they would never forgive that and any way his particular peccadillo appears to be a bit older than 4. Or has he helped an old friend from the halcyon days of Dundee?Hot lips in need sort of thing....should we assume that this vile creature had the same ability to use the Police to his own ends a la Cyril Smith? So many questions??????

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Post  Bampots on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 8:01 am

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Clement Freud, My Part in his Downfall 6
14 Jun, 2016 in Uncategorized by craig | View Comments
Commenters on this blog directly caused the exposure of Clement Freud in the ITV story. I published an anodyne obituary in 2009 giving my memories of Freud. One commenter wrote:

He was a notorious old goat and his pursuit of young women could verge on the sinister. I met one of his young ‘victims’ who told me about a job interview with him turning into a very traumatic experience.
And a second wrote the startling

Writing as one of his 1000s of sexual ‘victims’,
still surviving, terrified as I write for fear he is not yet quite yet dead – the man was an evil, conniving,
ruthless user for his own bottomless ego of all he came into contact with.
Our children – boys and girls are all that much safer for his demise.
And that is just the tip of an iceberg of political and media dirty dealings that reaches into the heart of the broken Britain he has left behind him.
His family will now, unfortunately, reap the rage and revenge of those he destroyed and their much needed justice for his many heinous – still untold – actions.
Six years later I was contacted by a journalist working for ITV who had leads on Freud and looking for more evidence. He had dug up those comments on my blog. Using the magic of the internet, I was able to trace the last commenter and put them in touch, with their permission, with the ITV team.

I also told them an anecdote I myself recalled. I was a young First Year Rep on Dundee University Students Association Council while Clement Freud was Rector. One day the then President of the Students Association, Ian Morris, came out of his office in a terrible mood after a phone call from Freud, saying that Freud had asked him to line up female students for him and was trying to use him as “a pimp”. This was not paedophilia but it was unpleasant – Freud was 35 years older than the students he was targeting.

It then all went quiet for a year before ITV contacted me this morning to tell me the story was running.

It is hard to know what to make of Freud owning a holiday villa close to where Madeleine McCann disappeared. Clement was apparently not in Portugal at the time. When you add in the fact that the McCanns’ sleazy “spokesman”, Clarence Mitchell, works for Freud’s son Matthew, the coincidences do add up. I am not jumping to any conclusions at present. But I found the following fascinating.

Clement Freud assured Kate McCann she had nothing to fear from the cadaver dogs giving a positive response inside the McCann’s hire car, hired after Madeleine “disappeared”. They had no evidential value. “So what are they going to do? One bark for yes, two barks for no?” asked Freud.

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Post  Hope on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 8:21 am

We now have the Freud/ Murdoch link to the Chipping Norton set who include the Cameron's. Very interesting imo.
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Post  Hope on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 8:26 am

Could Grange and the establishment be lining up one of their own as a deceased patsy when they realised the Portuguese were not going to let tractor man et al be used as one?


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Post  Andrew on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 8:29 am

Hope wrote:Could Grange and the establishment be lining one of their own as a patsy when they realised the Portuguese were not going to let tractor man et al be used as one?  

Can't see an 83 year old man sneaking in and 'abducting' a child.

Nah - that one won't work.
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Post  candyfloss on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 8:32 am

Detectives investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCan n have been alerted to the fact that Freud had a villa in Praia da Luz, Portugal, the resort where the three-year-old went missing in 2007


I think this tells it's own story, the detectives would have been well aware, and also of what KM had written in her book about being asked to his house so pretending they didn't know if rather daft.  'Have been alerted', you gotta laugh.

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