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Post  unreorganised on Mon 11 Jun 2018, 2:51 pm

I started to watch it but thought it was a bit boring. I did think the bloke in the Police interview looked exactly like the photograph of Mair though, even though I think RDH was trying to suggest otherwise?
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Post  Freedom on Mon 11 Jun 2018, 2:54 pm

Yes, he said that two people who knew TM well did not recognise him as the man in the police interview.
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Post  Freedom on Thu 10 Jan 2019, 12:03 am

Richard has made another video on the case.

https://www.richplanet.net/store/richplanetfilms?product_id=411

He now seems to doubt that there was a murder at all????

The original video from last year is no longer available.
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Post  Guinea Pig on Fri 11 Jan 2019, 3:56 pm

Perish the thought but I can't help wondering if Richard has been adversely affected by the company he keeps.
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Post  Guinea Pig on Tue 29 Jan 2019, 11:35 am

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Post  poster on Tue 29 Jan 2019, 1:56 pm

Guinea Pig wrote:The new DVD is out earlier than planned.

https://www.richplanet.net/store/richplanetfilms?product_id=411

To be honest nothing would surprise me any more. But what is he claiming happened to her?
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Post  Freedom on Tue 29 Jan 2019, 4:21 pm

It sounds as if he thinks there may not have been a murder at all, so how can that be interpreted - that it was all a hoax and Jo is alive and well somewhere?!
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Post  Freedom on Wed 30 Jan 2019, 9:34 pm

"Alleged murder"...……?

This film follows Richard D. Hall’s investigation into the alleged murder of MP Jo Cox which happened on June 16th 2016. Following on from his initial findings presented in a lecture in April 2018, he has searched further for evidence and presents it here for the first time. The film proves beyond reasonable doubt that the official version of events is wholly untrue. Richard presents compelling evidence that the man blamed for the attack was a patsy and played no part in any murder, if indeed there was a murder. The film looks at all the CCTV evidence, witness testimony and physical evidence. Also featured are interviews with witnesses who have been kept out of mainstream media and were not asked to take part in the trial. The film suggests a plausible motive for a highly organised plot to remove Jo Cox from her position of MP. Her departure occurred just one week before the UK Brexit referendum and the film explains why this may have happened.
This film contains extensive analysis by statement analyst Peter Hyatt.
The Box Set includes a 3rd Disk containing the film in HD (1280x720) MP4 format.
Format : PAL 16:9, Region Free
Running Time : 3h 15m

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Post  Freedom on Sat 02 Mar 2019, 9:48 am

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Post  Antonia on Sat 02 Mar 2019, 3:08 pm

https://www.richplanet.net/richp_genre.php?ref=266&part=1&gen=99


Warning – its in 4 parts and in total its close to 4 hrs.

I have watched Part 1 in full, and dipped into parts 2, 3, and 4.

I am not a fan of Richard’s but after seeing Part 1, I have big doubts that the man in prison, Thomas Mair, killed her. He was painted as a loner, a right wing nutter and allegedly stuff was found in his house ‘proving’ this was the case.

Mair’s next door neighbour spoke on camera at length and I felt she was genuine. She could not reconcile the man painted in the media with the man she had known for years. A family member also speaks on camera and was unaware of the alleged right wing views. The family member did mention Mair having mental health issues but said these were being addressed. I would have liked Richard to provide more information on this.

Richard’s case is that Mair was a ‘patsy’ and the original plan was to kill him, making it look like a suicide. That way there would be no trial and no awkward questions. But something went wrong (this made me think of May 3 2007 when I think the original Maddie abduction plan went wrong) and they had to arrest Mair instead.

He actually suggests that Jo Cox may not be dead because of odd behaviour at the scene of the crime eg the body was left there for close to an hour before being moved to London (why London you might ask?). He also mentions a woman with her at the time of the shooting/stabbing being incredibly calm given the dreadful situation.

He says people have said Jo would not have agreed to vanish to suit a political agenda as she had two children. He asks do we know for certain that she had children? He says he can find no photos of her when pregnant. Now this argument does not convince me. Her two children were born before she was elected in 2015 (the youngest in 2012). Why would there be pictures of a pregnant Jo in the media when she was a private citizen. And anyway, what women wants to be photographed when she is obviously pregnant unless she is a Z list celebrity doing a maternity clothes shoot?

I want to find the time to watch parts 2,3 and 4 properly with a notebook in hand.

I hope other members can find the time to watch and we can have a good discussion.
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Post  Freedom on Sat 02 Mar 2019, 3:52 pm

I have watched the first part and, though I can't get round my head round the theories he propounds, I do agree that there is something very wrong about the arrest and conviction of Tommy Mair.

I shall watch the rest later on.
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Post  unreorganised on Sat 02 Mar 2019, 5:41 pm

Freedom wrote:I have watched the first part and, though I can't get round my head round the theories he propounds, I do agree that there is something very wrong about the arrest and conviction of Tommy Mair.

I shall watch the rest later on.

I wasn't going to watch it - I don't think that Hall's previous work on this subject is among his best - but as Antonia mentioned it I gave the first one a go. It's highly suppositional. I also found it irritating that everybody was talking about Mair in the past tense. He's not dead, just in prison! Why not try asking the man himself if he did it?
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Post  unreorganised on Sun 03 Mar 2019, 1:07 pm

unreorganised wrote:Why not try asking the man himself if he did it?

OK, I watched it all now. He did attempt to ask Mair, so I'll take my previous comment back.

Certainly quite a lot to chew over.
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Post  Freedom on Sun 03 Mar 2019, 1:22 pm

I've watched the first two parts.

Is there any explanation in the later two parts as to what Tommy Mair's mental illness was? I know that it was mentioned in the mainstream media but not, as far as I am aware, what exactly it was and how it might affect his judgement.
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Post  unreorganised on Sun 03 Mar 2019, 1:37 pm

Freedom wrote:
Is there any explanation in the later two parts as to what Tommy Mair's mental illness was?

Wrongplacewrongtimeitis?
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Post  Freedom on Sun 03 Mar 2019, 9:39 pm

I have now seen the whole thing and I can't say that I understood all of it, particularly the suggested motive for wanting Jo out of the way.

There are many strange unexplained elements to the story. The differences in the way of walking between the man leaving the scene and Tommy Mair were interesting.

The way that Jo's family behaved after the event - looking and acting as if they'd won the lottery - can't help but raise suspicions that the whole thing was a hoax.

Richard recommended this documentary to show how events can be faked.

https://vimeo.com/276727058
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Post  poster on Sun 03 Mar 2019, 11:33 pm

Can one believe anything at all any more?? confused confused
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Post  Freedom on Tue 05 Mar 2019, 10:14 am

It's nothing new. There have been false flag incidents since time immemorial.

Whether the death of Jo Cox is definitely one, I can't say though.
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