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Post  Andrew on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 9:08 pm

Thanks for the update, ddl.

Where she said she didn't get paid......

Nope. Don't believe it.

Is she milking it on FB then......
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Post  candyfloss on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 9:14 pm

Andrew wrote:Thanks for the update, ddl.

Where she said she didn't get paid......

Nope. Don't believe it.

Is she milking it on FB then......

ddl??

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Re: The Sun 22/06/16 - 'It could have been me'

Post  Bloodhound on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 9:16 pm

I took three screen shots of her conversation with Lorraine but I don't know how to put them in here from my iPad.
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Re: The Sun 22/06/16 - 'It could have been me'

Post  Andrew on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 9:21 pm

Ooops.... apologies. Saw the picture of the lovely dog and thought it was a ddl post.

Getting confused in my old age.

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Post  Bloodhound on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 9:30 pm

Sorry about that, it is confusing, I only had that pic up to show DDL my dog and I forgot to take it down. I think I have it sorted now. Very Happy
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Re:The Sun 22/06/16. 'It could have been me'

Post  costello on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 9:31 pm

Andrew wrote:Ooops.... apologies. Saw the picture of the lovely dog and thought it was a ddl post.

Getting confused in my old age.


I don't think it is your age Andrew. The avatars are so similar I have done the same while reading. Both dogs look so lovely.
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Re: The Sun 22/06/16 - 'It could have been me'

Post  Bloodhound on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 9:34 pm

I copied and pasted the conversation she had with Lorraine on FB. If this isn't allowed please delete it for me Embarassed



Lorraine Holden
Lorraine Holden Why they printing this now?
Like · Reply · 2 · 22 June at 23:30
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Nicole Shuttleworth
Nicole Shuttleworth Because i only contacted someone last month, as we were told not to contact anyone from Scotland Yard as it could have jeopardised any case or investigations they had xx
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Lorraine Holden
Lorraine Holden I'm sorry but this all stinks to high heaven I'm not saying it didn't happen but to link it to Madeleine McCann who btw wasn't abducted no evidence of that but cadaver alerts and Madeleine's blood found in McCann's apartment
13,years ago this happened to you? Yet your story comes out now when msm are ramming abduction bullshit down everyone's throats
I don't how much you got for your story but in future do some research before being used by mainstream media

From the police files on Madeleine's parents
Lorraine Holden's photo.
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Lorraine Holden
Lorraine Holden And considering the investigation is still on going why would it not jeopardise it now?
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Nicole Shuttleworth
Nicole Shuttleworth I wasnt paid and i contacted someone last month off my own back.
I dont follow MSN so i would t know what they were saying!
And we were given a time frame of when we could either contact or be contacted by the media, the time was up so i thought id contact someone and let everyone know what happened and is more than likely still happening in Portugal xx
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Lorraine Holden I'd concentrate more on what's happening here hun Portugal actually investigated high profile paedophiles judges,police and mps and got them imprisoned unlike this country that covers it up don't believe all you read most of its Bs media.
I'm sorry for what happened to you but unfortunately that's not what happened to poor Madeleine and many are fighting for justice.
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Nicole Shuttleworth
Nicole Shuttleworth I dont read the news often enough tbh to even know whats going on in the UK.
But i have done alot of research since the Scotland yard police officer came, into child disappearances in Portugal!
I count my lucky stars everyday that my mum woke up, and still have the nightmares now. But everything happens for a reason.

And im not disputing the parents may or may not have had anything to do with Maddie, but the kidnappings go on and other stories similar to mine have been published in the past few years from local resorts too xx
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Lorraine Holden It definitely goes on hun all over the world and I to am glad your parents woke someone was watching over you xx
Can I ask who contacted you about this in the first place and when? You say there was a time frame that's strange did they say why?
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Rebekah-jaye Holland Were any police contacted at the time, or at the time Maddie vanished, Nicole? xxx
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Nicole Shuttleworth
Nicole Shuttleworth My dad rung the police when Maddie was snatched, we were asked not to contact the media as it was very high profile.
We were then met by an officer from Scotland Yard 6 years later.
So i waited until our time was over and then i waited until the media had almost dropped it about Maddie, little did i know as i contacted the media, Maddie had come back into the papers!

I didnt do it for money as there is none, i did it to warn people how easy it is for kids to be taken, if my mum had not woke up. I hate to think what could have happened!
Oh and i didnt contact The Sun either xx
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Rebekah-jaye Holland
Rebekah-jaye Holland TY for that Nicole xxx
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Lorraine Holden
Lorraine Holden Did your mum report it in Portugal at the time?
Madeleine's not been out the papers in 9 years and unfortunately they're not printing facts the police files are on line the Bs their printing is disgusting but we soldier on trying to get the truth out hopefully one day that little girl will get justice
Ty for answering my questions I appreciate it hun xx
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Lorraine Holden
Lorraine Holden Just want to give you some advice sweetie secure your account take it off public for a while some ppl ain't as polite as I've been hun and the Madeleine case has attracted a few nutters so be careful it's a very emotive subject hun
Ty for answering my questions you take care xxx
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Nicole Shuttleworth
Nicole Shuttleworth Im fine with it, iv had my fair share of nutters already lol!
But thanks for the heads up xx
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Lorraine Holden
Lorraine Holden Your welcome hun x
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Talulah Toodles
Talulah Toodles Who are you Lorraine? The Police? No? You're an anti Madeleine McCann troll who gets her jollies abusing the McCanns.
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Lorraine Holden
Lorraine Holden Excuse me I've been very polite Talulah Toodles you come on aggressive and I'm the troll oh the irony lol
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Talulah Toodles
Talulah Toodles Polite? You are practically accusing Nicole of not being truthful. Why is it any business of yours?
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Re: The Sun 22/06/16 - 'It could have been me'

Post  Hope on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 9:43 pm

She was given a time frame not to contact the media by SY and that was up last month.

Putting all doubts over this 'kidnapping attempt' could some injunctions have been lifted and/or the money is not there to re apply.
Something is blowing in the wind but in which direction?
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Re:The Sun 22/06/16. 'It could have been me'

Post  costello on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 9:47 pm

Thanks for that Bloodhound, this does seem a bit odd though a bit difficult to believe.Maybe it's just me.


Really liked your other avatar.
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Re: The Sun 22/06/16 - 'It could have been me'

Post  Bloodhound on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 9:49 pm

I'm more inclined to think something might be happening in Portugal, every time something is going down over there the McCann stories take over the papers.

Is it time to hear about the appeal or will that be after the summer holidays?
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Post  Bloodhound on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 9:51 pm

Thank you Costello, she was a beaut of a dog. But it was confusing having two members with basset hounds as an avatar Very Happy
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Re:The Sun 22/06/16. 'It could have been me'

Post  costello on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 9:59 pm

Bloodhound wrote:I'm more inclined to think something might be happening in Portugal, every time something is going down over there the McCann stories take over the papers.

Is it time to hear about the appeal or will that be after the summer holidays?


From what I have read Bloodhound the appeal acceptance verdict isn't 'supposedly' due until Sept/Oct. Like you I think something is about to break and soon by the looks of it.
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Re: The Sun 22/06/16 - 'It could have been me'

Post  poster on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 10:05 pm

Snipped from the facebook exchange above:


Nicole Shuttleworth My dad rung the police when Maddie was snatched, we were asked not to contact the media as it was very high profile.
We were then met by an officer from Scotland Yard 6 years later.
So i waited until our time was over and then i waited until the media had almost dropped it about Maddie, little did i know as i contacted the media, Maddie had come back into the papers!


Given that the incident is alleged to have happened 13 years ago, that would be 2003.

Madeleine was allegedly abducted in May 2007.

This story appeared in 2016.

Presuming Nicole means that they were met by the Scotland Yard officer 6 years after they rung the police at the time of Madeleine's reported abduction, which would appear to be the meaning from the sentence above, then the SY officer wasn't exactly quick off the mark to interview them, was he?

But even if it meant that the Yard officer met them 6 years after they thwarted their own child's potential abduction - in 2003, then six years after that would be 2009.

So still a very long time after Madeleine's alleged abduction.

In any event, the location was 45 minutes away from Luz not in the immediate vicinity.

Clutching at straws springs to mind....what a ridiculous story.

ETA: Nicole Shuttleworth I dont read the news often enough tbh to even know whats going on in the UK.
But i have done alot of research since the Scotland yard police officer came, into child disappearances in Portugal!
I count my lucky stars everyday that my mum woke up, and still have the nightmares now. But everything happens for a reason.

And im not disputing the parents may or may not have had anything to do with Maddie, but the kidnappings go on and other stories similar to mine have been published in the past few years from local resorts too xx


What other kidnappings have happened from 'local resorts' in the past few years? Where have the stories similar to this one been published?


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Re:The Sun 22/06/16. 'It could have been me'

Post  costello on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 10:07 pm

Bloodhound wrote:Thank you Costello, she was a beaut of a dog.  But it was confusing having two members with basset hounds as an avatar Very Happy

She certainly looks lovely, it's a shame, do you have any other photographs of her (not similar to ddl's SM) you could have as your avatar.
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Re: The Sun 22/06/16 - 'It could have been me'

Post  Andrew on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 10:14 pm

As i mentioned earlier.... Nicole Shutterwoth, or whatever her name is, is full of crap.
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Re: The Sun 22/06/16 - 'It could have been me'

Post  Bloodhound on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 10:15 pm

poster wrote:Snipped from the facebook exchange above:


Nicole Shuttleworth My dad rung the police when Maddie was snatched, we were asked not to contact the media as it was very high profile.
We were then met by an officer from Scotland Yard 6 years later.
So i waited until our time was over and then i waited until the media had almost dropped it about Maddie, little did i know as i contacted the media, Maddie had come back into the papers!


Given that the incident is alleged to have happened 13 years ago, that would be 2003.

Madeleine was allegedly abducted in May 2007.

This story appeared in 2016.

Presuming Nicole means that they were met by the Scotland Yard officer 6 years after they rung the police at the time of Madeleine's reported abduction, which would appear to be the meaning from the sentence above, then the SY officer wasn't exactly quick off the mark to interview them, was he?

But even if it meant that the Yard officer met them 6 years after they thwarted their own child's potential abduction - in 2003, then six years after that would be 2009.

So still a very long time after Madeleine's alleged abduction.

In any event, the location was 45 minutes away from Luz not in the immediate vicinity.

Clutching at straws springs to mind....what a ridiculous story.



I was thinking maybe she reported it, possibly for a nice sum, to Mr Pinkey or one of the McCanns top genius investigation teams Shocked
Maybe when SY took over they went to see her after reading her statement in one of their files.
She might have been told to say nothing to the media until they gave her the go ahead. Something somewhere is going down so she was let loose to run with her story.

The more I think about it the more I realise it's bull. I'm not calling her a liar, what she said may have happened, but if it did she was manipulated into keeping it quiet until Pinky was ready.
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Re: The Sun 22/06/16 - 'It could have been me'

Post  Bloodhound on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 10:21 pm

costello wrote:
Bloodhound wrote:Thank you Costello, she was a beaut of a dog.  But it was confusing having two members with basset hounds as an avatar Very Happy

She certainly looks lovely, it's a shame, do you have any other photographs of her (not similar to ddl's SM) you could have as your avatar.

I have many photos of her but they are all alike lol, I didn't intend to use her as my avatar, I put her up there to show DDL as I saw he/she had the same breed as I had. I'm quite happy with my big smilie face as my avatar. But thank you, you are very kind.
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Re: The Sun 22/06/16 - 'It could have been me'

Post  Andrew on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 10:24 pm

Similar stories have done the rounds for years.

I don't believe the woman. I reckon she is an attention seeker, wanting/trying to make a name.

Probably come out in the wash that she's Clarences' long lost cousin or something.
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Post  poster on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 11:16 pm

As Kate herself very helpfully points out in her book, kidnappings and abductions by people completely unknown to the child are rare.

In any event, traditionally kidnappings were often motivated by money and the kidnapper would demand a ransom.

Why would any kidnapper worth his salt not at least made sure that they kidnapped the child of someone rich?

ETA: In cases where children are groomed and abused, the abusers will either chose children they know and guilt them into keeping silent or they will chose vulnerable children such as children living in 'care' homes or maybe in foster homes. Children who might not have any responsible adult that really cares about their welfare.

Plus who is going to grab a child from the midst of a holiday resort? Far too risky.

So Madeleine McCann was not a good prospect for a kidnapper - the family were not rich enough.

And she was not a good prospect for an abductor with the motives of paedophilia as she lived with her family who were (admittedly trumped up) middle class and professional and therefore, theoretically, not a vulnerable child whose disappearance would go relatively unnoticed.
As it happens, despite her parents professions and life style, I think she most definitely was a child who was vulnerable and at risk.

But, for the purposes of a faked 'red flag' abduction Madeleine was perfect. Because the MSM was confident that the sheeple were too dim to be able to comprehend that child abuse and other crimes are not confined to any one section of society and can and do happen at all levels (Jon Ramsey Benet for instance.)

As Kate says in her book: "As it was, we were in an apparently safe, child-friendly holiday complex full of families just like ours."

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Post  Freedom on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 11:19 pm

Just as a matter of interest, can anyone think of any kidnapping cases of children in recent years where a ransom was demanded?
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Post  Bampots on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 11:25 pm

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Post  poster on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 11:34 pm

Freedom wrote:Just as a matter of interest, can anyone think of any kidnapping cases of children in recent years where a ransom was demanded?

In some of these cases a ransom was demanded. But agree there seem to be few from recent years.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_kidnappings
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Post  Bloodhound on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 11:45 pm

Kidnapping for ransom is way too risky these days.

Isn't it odd how, from the beginning, they tried to brainwash the people that paedos were filthy, dirty, smelly, fat, spotty, swarthy, gypsies, druggies or homeless men. When in actual fact the richest paedos, and I believe the vast majority of paedos are very well to do people who are in positions such as government, law, police, teachers, doctors etc. Not forgetting royalty.

Toff head Mitchell thought mere peasants would listen to any drivel he spouted out. I bet they are all cursing the day the Internet was invented Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Post  Bloodhound on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 11:46 pm

Oh, and pop stars Shocked
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Post  poster on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 11:51 pm

Bloodhound wrote:Kidnapping for ransom is way too risky these days.

Isn't it odd how, from the beginning, they tried to brainwash the people that paedos were filthy, dirty, smelly, fat, spotty, swarthy, gypsies, druggies or homeless men. When in actual fact the richest paedos, and I believe the vast majority of paedos are very well to do people who are in positions such as government, law, police, teachers, doctors etc. Not forgetting royalty.

Toff head Mitchell thought mere peasants would listen to any drivel he spouted out. I bet they are all cursing the day the Internet was invented Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Mitchell is looking more and more foolish - I'm not surprised he's been spotted in Australia recently...a very long way away but still not far enough, imo.
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