BREXIT - The European Union referendum

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IN or OUT?

27% 27% 
[ 9 ]
70% 70% 
[ 23 ]
3% 3% 
[ 1 ]
 
Total Votes : 33

Re: BREXIT - The European Union referendum

Post  nannygroves on Tue 24 Jan 2017, 2:25 pm

candyfloss wrote:Yes, I think the decision is theirs, a referendum is only advisory and does not have to be adhered to.  Waste of flippin time innit!


My understanding of democracy is that we elect Members of Parliament to carry out our instructions . If they don't do this and go against the will of the people that is NOT democracy. It's no good bleating on about the close call of the referendum . It was a definite majority vote for OUT. I think Members of Parliament should tread very carefully now if they do not want this country to face possible revolution. Next time we have an election ( 23rd Feb) shall we stand by the majority vote or demand another go now that they've set the precedent for ignoring votes? Cameron didn't state it was an advisory referendum . In fact he spoke of instigating Article 50 immediately and no one in Parliament batted an eyelid. They were that sure that it was 'in the bag.' Theresa May will do exactly what she's always done. Talk the talk and follow up with .................nothing.
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Post  espeland on Tue 24 Jan 2017, 3:39 pm

Theresa May will do exactly what she's always done. Talk the talk and follow up with .................nothing.


She'd better not!

After 50 years of voting, last June I chose the winning side for the first time! What worries me though, is that if France votes to leave too and with other countries lined up to vote, that TPTB in Brussels will decide to change enough things to make leaving almost a pointless exercise.
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Re: BREXIT - The European Union referendum

Post  chirpyinsect on Tue 24 Jan 2017, 4:11 pm

And possibly the point of it all along. We are crazy if we think people power means anything.
I voted Remain and am not ashamed of that. My reasons are personal to my unique circumstances coupled with what I truly believe is better for the UK.
What I hated about the whole thing was the divisions it created in society. Again a standard tactic. They always knew it would be close and a recipe for disaster. Why do you think they didn't invoke the super-majority 10% rule?
As a divided nation arguing with each other we are far less likely to be watching what is really happening in the corridors of power.

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Re: BREXIT - The European Union referendum

Post  Mimi on Tue 24 Jan 2017, 7:26 pm

Freedom wrote:Have I understood this correctly? The Government has the final say on whether or not the U K leaves the European Union?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-38723261#"

I thought it was Parliament, not the government. A Bill now has to go through Parliament and voted on, but is likely to pass easily.

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Re: BREXIT - The European Union referendum

Post  Benevolent on Tue 24 Jan 2017, 10:11 pm

I too voted Remain for personal family reasons but the way I saw the whole thing was like a divorce. Something you see with actual divorces/separations. Its seems that when things get tough or they don't like the way things are its easier just to chuck the towel in rather than try to fix things. Its the same with the whole 'we don't like the way the EU thingy/people (thingy being a non technical term) run things'. Fine then fix the way the EU thingy/people do things. Why not have a whole EU member country referendum on changing the way the EU is run, starting with an elected EU body.
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Post  Mimi on Tue 24 Jan 2017, 10:34 pm

Benevolent wrote:I too voted Remain for personal family reasons but the way I saw the whole thing was like a divorce. Something you see with actual divorces/separations. Its seems that when things get tough or they don't like the way things are its easier just to chuck the towel in rather than try to fix things. Its the same with the whole 'we don't like the way the EU thingy/people (thingy being a non technical term) run things'. Fine then fix the way the EU thingy/people do things. Why not have a whole EU member country referendum on changing the way the EU is run, starting with an elected EU body.

I think that would be a major task, far more difficult than us getting out. It`s far too big, complicated and probably corrupt with interests and connections all tangled up - it would be like trying to unravel the Clinton/Bush mafias. You can see how nasty the Brussels heads are becoming over us leaving. I`m a believer in staying small - anything that gets too big, gets corrupted. I liked Europe for it`s individual nation states, each with their own languages, currency and customs - vive la difference. No way do I consider myself `european` even though my DNA is probably rooted in northern europe.

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Brexit etc.

Post  Mimi on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 10:21 pm

I cannot find a thread for Brexit - mods, if there is one under another name, please transfer.

This German MEP has just had a go at Juncker, Barnier & co for causing the UK to leave the UK in the first place and for acting in such an arrogant way and trying to punish the UK.  Excellent



and here he is again on RT. He makes sense.




It took me a while but I found the original topic!

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Re: BREXIT - The European Union referendum

Post  candyfloss on Sun 28 Jan 2018, 11:10 am

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