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Madeleine: Book Sheds Light On Mystery Predator

Post  Guest on Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:28 am

A bogus charity collector was suspected of planning to abduct a young British girl hours before Madeleine McCann vanished, a new book reveals.

The intruder fled when he was caught in a villa close to the apartment from where three-year-old Madeleine disappeared in Praia da Luz, Portugal in 2007.

Author Anthony Summers told Sky News that a British mother answered her door to a stranger asking for donations to an orphanage.

http://news.sky.com/story/1331466/madeleine-book-sheds-light-on-mystery-predator



The authors say that Mrs McCann has said she was told by the then British consul Bill Henderson that before Madeleine vanished he was aware of a spate of child sex assaults along the Algarve coast and had discussed it with holiday companies.

Mr Summers said: "Had there been a warning note in the apartment, do we think the McCanns would have left the patio door unlocked on the night they went to the other side of the pool to have dinner away from their children?

"One would be tempted to think they would make sure everything was firmly locked up."

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Post  Freedom on Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:19 am

Most people would be tempted to think that the McCanns would not have left their children unattended, or at least not made up a story to claim that they did.

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Post  Dee Coy on Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:41 am

Right. So this is what this book is about after all. A rehashing of all the reports of the various 'suspects'. Ah well.

For shame.

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Post  Freedom on Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:43 am

As soon as I heard that Mr Summers believes the official 9/11 story, I didn't hold out a great deal of hope for his book about the McCanns.
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Post  Guest on Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:54 am

Freedom wrote:As soon as I heard that Mr Summers believes the official 9/11 story, I didn't hold out a great deal of hope for his book about the McCanns.  

Me too. I've also heard that Summers believes the official version of JFK as well!!!! Rolling Eyes

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Post  Freedom on Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:01 am

He seems to be undecided on that one.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/johnfkennedy/10452110/The-Cuban-assassin-with-a-deadly-secret-I-shot-JFK.html
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Post  Guest on Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:30 am

Sorry, I'm relying too much on Facebook for my information these days!

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Post  Guest on Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:38 am

So basically a book which outlines SY's ridiculous burglar / predator theory (all which the PJ had debunked) and is conveniently published in time for their last chance saloon visit to Portugal and the conclusion of the libel trial. I despair sometimes!

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Post  Guest on Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:59 am

Anyone know his opinion on Dr David Kelly?

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Post  Poe on Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:05 am

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Mr Summers said: "Had there been a warning note in the apartment, do we think the McCanns would have left the patio door unlocked on the night they went to the other side of the pool to have dinner away from their children?

A hypothetical scenario: the McCanns left their valuables - cash, passports, camera etc. on the table, left the patio door unlocked and went to the other side of the pool to have dinner. On returning to the apartment they found their belongings gone. Their insurers refuse to pay out because the door was unlocked. If the McCanns appeal their insurers decision by saying that there had been a spate of burglaries in the area and if they'd been warned they would have locked the door, the claim would still be declined for the same reason.

Insurance companies would consider the responsibility for the loss to lay with the McCanns as they had not taken adequate precautions to protect their property.

Perhaps Mr Summers (and the McCanns for that matter) could explain why we should find it acceptable that the McCann children (unique, priceless and irreplaceable) received a standard of care below that which insurance companies consider adequate.

For the record, I don't believe the children were left alone in the apartment but, as that is what the McCanns claim, they should take responsibility for it rather than trying to pass the blame.

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Re: Madeleine McCann Books

Post  Guest on Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:29 am

Freedom wrote:As soon as I heard that Mr Summers believes the official 9/11 story, I didn't hold out a great deal of hope for his book about the McCanns.  

Totally agree....He needs looking at a bit deeper.


http://deadlinelive.info/2011/11/16/911-pentagon-debate-craig-ranke-cit-vs-anthony-summers-cfr-shill/


I love that last word in the above link... Very Happy

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Post  Antonia on Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:00 pm

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The authors say that Mrs McCann has said she was told by the then British consul Bill Henderson that before Madeleine vanished he was aware of a spate of child sex assaults along the Algarve coast and had discussed it with holiday companies.

Mr Summers said: "Had there been a warning note in the apartment, do we think the McCanns would have left the patio door unlocked on the night they went to the other side of the pool to have dinner away from their children?

"One would be tempted to think they would make sure everything was firmly locked up."

Wouldn't you think that with an outdoor swimming pool between the ground floor apartment and the tapas bar where they were dining and with three children UNDER four years old they would have locked the door for that reason alone?
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Post  Guest on Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:05 pm

intelligent, educated, credible, seemingly decent and respectful, sounding authorative and yet telling outright lies. I'd love to understand what motivates paid liars and how they square things with their consciences

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Post  Châtelaine on Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:06 pm

@Antonia
Yes, of course. One of the many reasons not to believe their badly told story.
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Post  Justformaddiemccann on Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:39 pm

A surgical mask and laundry on his feet! Oh please! What about gloves for fingerprints? Do these two not realise this is about a crime committed against a nearly four year old child who hasn't been seen on heard since 2007? PDL felt like a safe family resort, yet they locked the apartment during the day, but left it unlocked at night with their 3 under four precious irreplaceable completely defenceless children!
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Re: Madeleine McCann Books

Post  Guest on Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:40 pm

Thomas Baden-Riess wrote:intelligent, educated, credible, seemingly decent and respectful, sounding authorative and yet telling outright lies. I'd love to understand what motivates paid liars and how they square things with their consciences

You said it yourself, what motivates PAID liars?

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Post  Antonia on Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:32 pm

Confession. I have just invested in a copy of the SUN. The McCann story is not highlighted at all on the front cover as an attraction inside which I think is unusual. There's 2 pages (p.28 and 29) but I estimate 75% of the pages are taken up with pictures. Its labelled Exclusive by Ben Griffiths. I can't see the exclusivity - its a rehash of the stories we've already had about men being found inside children's bedrooms and then running away. At the end of the 'exclusive' its says its extracted from the book 'Looking for Madeleine.'

There's a quote from the authors saying that after they took up the case in 2012, their young daughter asked 'is that madeleine still missing?How long would you search for me. Robbyn Swan said, 'I didn't have any good answers.' According to Wikipedia, Mr Summers was born in 1942 which makes him 72. Even is his wife is a bit younger I'm wondering how he has a 'young daughter' to (apparently) ask this question!
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Re: Madeleine McCann Books

Post  Admin on Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:20 pm

Thanks Antonia so nothing new then by the sounds of things.  At this point perhaps we should mention the blog Pat Brown wrote back in July re this book which is imminently on sale.

http://patbrownprofiling.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/why-i-knew-anthony-summers-book-on.html

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Post  Guest on Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:44 pm

Resistor wrote:
Thomas Baden-Riess wrote:intelligent, educated, credible, seemingly decent and respectful, sounding authorative and yet telling outright lies. I'd love to understand what motivates paid liars and how they square things with their consciences

You said it yourself, what motivates PAID liars?

Surely Resistor it has to be a bit more nuanced than that. Yes money is important, but as much as I love it I would have problems with my conscience. I am happy to make pacts with the devil to a certain extent, but I wonder what exactly makes these people just go that bit further. He could be compromised of course.

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Post  ohdear on Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:40 pm

ChillyHeat wrote:A bogus charity collector was suspected of planning to abduct a young British girl hours before Madeleine McCann vanished, a new book reveals.

The intruder fled when he was caught in a villa close to the apartment from where three-year-old Madeleine disappeared in Praia da Luz, Portugal in 2007.

Author Anthony Summers told Sky News that a British mother answered her door to a stranger asking for donations to an orphanage.

http://news.sky.com/story/1331466/madeleine-book-sheds-light-on-mystery-predator



The authors say that Mrs McCann has said she was told by the then British consul Bill Henderson that before Madeleine vanished he was aware of a spate of child sex assaults along the Algarve coast and had discussed it with holiday companies.

Mr Summers said: "Had there been a warning note in the apartment, do we think the McCanns would have left the patio door unlocked on the night they went to the other side of the pool to have dinner away from their children?

"One would be tempted to think they would make sure everything was firmly locked up."
How about this crazy idea,they stayed in with the kids.
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Post  Popcorn on Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:26 am

Perhaps it simply did not cross the minds of the Mark Warner management that anybody would be foolish enough to even consider leaving their children "home alone", since the resort provided both a night-time creche and a babysitting service to enable parents to enjoy evenings out knowing their children were being properly cared for?
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Post  dantezebu on Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:42 am

Actually I don't understand why the McCanns took the children on holiday with them at all.
They didn't see them or do anything with them except feed them breakfast and lunch and put them to bed.
One trip (they claim) to the beach, but they chose to go on a day it was raining.

But the reason why Mark Warner has not been blamed by the MC's or anyone else is in my opinion that MW know that the children were NOT left alone. They know there was no neglect and therefore no abduction.
Summers and Swan seem to have made the very basic mistake of believing every word that the parents have said. And have not (apparently) interviewed them.
How could two award winning crime writers make such a huge error of judgement.
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Post  Freedom on Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:57 am

Not of course that they would have been told the truth if they had interviewed the McCanns but yes it is strange that they didn't.
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Post  Guest on Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:59 am

"Mr Summers said: "Had there been a warning note in the apartment, do we think the McCanns would have left the patio door unlocked on the night they went to the other side of the pool to have dinner away from their children?
"One would be tempted to think they would make sure everything was firmly locked up."

So it would have been ok for them to leave the kids in a locked apartment?

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Post  Antonia on Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:07 am

flamingboy wrote:"Mr Summers said: "Had there been a warning note in the apartment, do we think the McCanns would have left the patio door unlocked on the night they went to the other side of the pool to have dinner away from their children?
"One would be tempted to think they would make sure everything was firmly locked up."

So it would have been ok for them to leave the kids in a locked apartment?

It would not be acceptable but less unacceptable than leaving in an unlocked groundfloor apartment adjacent to a swimming pool. Locking the door would have made it harder for the spotty/smelly/take your pick burglar/abductor to break in and he could have been disturbed by the McCanns/their friends making their 'regular' checks so Madeleine would not have been 'taken.'
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