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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey

Post  wjk on Fri 23 Sep 2016, 11:03 am

Hi all, I watched all the documentary yesterday/last night and am 98% sure he did it.
Just the tiniest doubt. And that comes from his interview when he was 9yrs old.
I'm not sure a 9yr old would be able to keep THAT kind of thing secret.

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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey

Post  Andrew on Fri 23 Sep 2016, 1:07 pm

That's interesting, WJK. I will definitely be watching it later on this evening.

I suppose even some 9 year olds can be very convincing liars. Especially if they're coached in what to say and not to say.
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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey

Post  wjk on Fri 23 Sep 2016, 1:17 pm

That's true Andrew.
Maybe he smacked her on the head with the torch and was sent to bed, not realising the damage he had done. The expert thinks that's what killed her, not the strangling. The parents then staged the strangulation & the ransom letter etc?
Anyway, it's well worth a watch. It changed my mind, I was always under the belief it was Patsy.

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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey

Post  dogs don't lie on Fri 23 Sep 2016, 1:29 pm

I agree, just what I can't get my head around is this, the mom seemed to love her, with all those pageant shows and stuff, kinda getting her to follow in her footsteps, but how in the world could she/they be able to leave her in the state she was found? How can that happen? Too late and covering for their son I get, the rest I dont get. Also, has anyone heard or read something about the mum still wearing the same clothes, like she hadn't been to bed at all? scratch
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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey

Post  Freedom on Fri 23 Sep 2016, 2:12 pm

I think (but am not sure) that the wearing of the same clothes - suggesting that Patsy had never gone to bed that night - is mentioned here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl5Ll3sLFs8
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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey

Post  Andrew on Fri 23 Sep 2016, 2:22 pm

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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey

Post  dogs don't lie on Fri 23 Sep 2016, 2:32 pm

Oh cheers Freedom, don't think I've seen that one so I'll watch when I get home.

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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey

Post  dogs don't lie on Sat 24 Sep 2016, 12:57 pm

Jeez that handwriting...

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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey

Post  Freedom on Sat 24 Sep 2016, 1:04 pm

That's the mind-blowing bit - when she denied that the similar writing on family photos was hers, or that she couldn't remember if she wrote it.
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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey

Post  dogs don't lie on Sat 24 Sep 2016, 1:10 pm

Freedom wrote:That's the mind-blowing bit - when she denied that the similar writing on family photos was hers, or that she couldn't remember if she wrote it.  

Unreal, the b's are both lower case, the g's both have a tail to the right and both o's have a hole.... really??
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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey

Post  Freedom on Sat 24 Sep 2016, 2:19 pm

I don't think it will ever happen but, IF Burke was guilty and decided to come clean now, I presume that he couldn't be charged as he was under 10 when the crime was committed?

His father of course is a different matter and could be charged with all manner of things relating to perverting the course of justice.
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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey

Post  Châtelaine on Sat 24 Sep 2016, 2:35 pm

Apart from the "abductors" note, what really convinced me this was staged is an image in a documentary, I saw long time ago so cannot find a link now, where Patsy is pointing to the cellar window, where the culprit broke in. Funnily enough the broken glass was laying on the outside ...
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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey

Post  dogs don't lie on Sat 24 Sep 2016, 2:51 pm

And JR also said he thinks he broke the window a few months before, surely you'd remember if you broke your own window?

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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey

Post  Andrew on Sat 24 Sep 2016, 8:19 pm

So I started watching it late yesterday evening but fell asleep about two thirds in. Not because it was boring. The complete opposite in fact but I was just absolutely shattered.

So will try again shortly.
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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey

Post  Andrew on Sat 24 Sep 2016, 9:11 pm

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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey

Post  Andrew on Sun 25 Sep 2016, 9:20 am

After the completing the full first half of it I am looking forward to watching the conclusion tonight.

Certainly recommend watching it if you're interested in this case.
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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey

Post  Andrew on Sun 25 Sep 2016, 5:23 pm

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/jonbenet-ramseys-brother-burke-offers-8911243

JonBenet Ramsey's brother Burke offers to take lie detector in bid to prove innocence
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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey

Post  wjk on Sun 25 Sep 2016, 8:17 pm

Another documentary here, covers most of what the others do really..please delete if it's already on the forum.


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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey

Post  Andrew on Sun 25 Sep 2016, 8:22 pm

Hi wjk. No this one isn't on so thanks for posting.

Have you seen it yourself yet and if so what's the gist of it....?

About to watch part 2 of the other one shortly.
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The Ramsey case

Post  wjk on Sun 25 Sep 2016, 9:11 pm

Hi Andrew, it's basically the same as the one you're watching now but filmed a bit earlier & doesn't have the phone recordings of Patsy calling 911 but it does talk about them. And there are a couple of the Ramsey's friends on it plus a police woman I'd not seen before speak.

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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey

Post  Freedom on Sun 25 Sep 2016, 9:44 pm

I've transferred all later posts here to the main Ramsey topic.
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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey

Post  Guinea Pig on Mon 26 Sep 2016, 8:03 am

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/jonbenet-ramsey-family-friend-supports-8914011

This is something we've never seen with the McCanns - a friend or neighbour expressing an opinion that they could be involved.
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Re: The murder of JonBenet Ramsey

Post  Andrew on Mon 26 Sep 2016, 8:24 am

That's because they've all been gagged. Much like all the Ramsey friends back in the day. Interesting though that this friend has decided to say something now. Pity she didn't say anything 20 years ago though.

No chance will Burke do a lie-detector test.
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