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Post  Freedom on Tue 09 May 2017, 11:24 pm

GibJim has gone of his own accord.

This is very off topic again, Andrew!

I might watch the programme tomorrow though I know it will be distressing.
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Post  Andrew on Tue 09 May 2017, 11:28 pm

No worries. Off topic by a considerable amount by the looks of it. Again Very Happy
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Post  Freedom on Wed 10 May 2017, 12:49 am

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Post  Andrew on Fri 19 May 2017, 12:55 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4522204/Ex-football-coach-George-Ormond-charged-sex-offences.html

BREAKING NEWS: Ex-Newcastle United coach George Ormond, 61, is charged with 29 sexual offences dating back to the 1970s
Ormond worked as a youth coach at Newcastle United in the mid 1990s
The now-61-year-old also coached players at a number of other youth teams
He had been charged with 29 charges dating between 1973 and 1998
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Post  Freedom on Thu 11 Jan 2018, 11:32 am

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Post  Freedom on Mon 19 Feb 2018, 3:30 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43118069

31 years for Barry Bennell.
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Post  Guest on Mon 21 May 2018, 7:20 pm

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11787/11380844/former-celtic-coach-jim-mccafferty-pleads-guilty-to-child-sex-offences

McCafferty was the kit man at Celtic F.C. from 1990 to 1996.

McCafferty was a suspect in the murder of Celtic youth player Lawrence Haggart in 1996 as he had telephoned the youth on the day he died.McCafferty left the club two weeks after the the boy's death.Peado Brian Beattie was jailed for the crime.

Gerald Patrick McCann was the Celtic F.C. doctor around this time.

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Post  poster on Mon 21 May 2018, 9:46 pm

and i told you so wrote:http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11787/11380844/former-celtic-coach-jim-mccafferty-pleads-guilty-to-child-sex-offences

McCafferty was the kit man at Celtic F.C. from 1990 to 1996.

McCafferty was a suspect in the murder of Celtic youth player Lawrence Haggart in 1996 as he had telephoned the youth on the day he died.McCafferty left the club two weeks after the the boy's death.Peado Brian Beattie was jailed for the crime.

Gerald Patrick McCann was  the Celtic F.C. doctor around this time.

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Post  candyfloss on Mon 21 May 2018, 9:58 pm

and i told you so wrote:http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11787/11380844/former-celtic-coach-jim-mccafferty-pleads-guilty-to-child-sex-offences

McCafferty was the kit man at Celtic F.C. from 1990 to 1996.

McCafferty was a suspect in the murder of Celtic youth player Lawrence Haggart in 1996 as he had telephoned the youth on the day he died.McCafferty left the club two weeks after the the boy's death.Peado Brian Beattie was jailed for the crime.

Gerald Patrick McCann was allegedly  the Celtic F.C. doctor around this time.

You have said that as a fact , but is it definite, is there a link for this?  I have inserted allegedly as it is not a proven fact as far as I know  So if you can prove it that would be ok, and we must also say he is not being linked to the above story.

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Post  poster on Mon 21 May 2018, 10:42 pm

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Post  Guest on Mon 21 May 2018, 10:58 pm

candyfloss wrote:
and i told you so wrote:http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11787/11380844/former-celtic-coach-jim-mccafferty-pleads-guilty-to-child-sex-offences

McCafferty was the kit man at Celtic F.C. from 1990 to 1996.

McCafferty was a suspect in the murder of Celtic youth player Lawrence Haggart in 1996 as he had telephoned the youth on the day he died.McCafferty left the club two weeks after the the boy's death.Peado Brian Beattie was jailed for the crime.

Gerald Patrick McCann was allegedly  the Celtic F.C. doctor around this time.

You have said that as a fact , but is it definite, is there a link for this?  I have inserted allegedly as it is not a proven fact as far as I know  So if you can prove it that would be ok, and we must  also say he is not being linked to the above story.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6649319.stm
"Her father, Gerry, had worked for Celtic before moving to England."

http://themaddiecasefiles.com/celtic-daft-dad-was-a-real-pro-news-of-the-world-1-t14263.html
"Ex-Celtic physio Brian Scott worked with Maddie's dad at the club in the mid 90s"

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Post  Guest on Mon 21 May 2018, 11:13 pm

poster wrote:An interesting thread here:

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t14169-gerry-in-glasgow

Former chairman of Celtic boys club Gerald King in court this week May 2018
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/16164822.Glasgow_primary_teacher_accused_of_sexually_abusing_pupils/

Founder of Celtic boys club Jim Torbett on trial on 18th June 2018
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-43655108

Former head of Celtic boys club Frank Cairney trial delayed,next court appearance 10th August 2018
https://www.motherwelltimes.co.uk/news/crime/sexual-abuse-trial-subject-to-long-delay-1-4739109

Already convicted John Cullen Celtic photographer for over 20 years
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/3505864.stm

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Post  unreorganised on Mon 21 May 2018, 11:18 pm

and i told you so wrote:http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11787/11380844/former-celtic-coach-jim-mccafferty-pleads-guilty-to-child-sex-offences

McCafferty was the kit man at Celtic F.C. from 1990 to 1996.

McCafferty was a suspect in the murder of Celtic youth player Lawrence Haggart in 1996 as he had telephoned the youth on the day he died.McCafferty left the club two weeks after the the boy's death.Peado Brian Beattie was jailed for the crime.

Gerald Patrick McCann was  the Celtic F.C. doctor around this time.

Ironically the Celtic chairman during this time was one Fergus McCann.
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Post  Guest on Mon 21 May 2018, 11:27 pm

candyfloss wrote:
You have said that as a fact , but is it definite, is there a link for this?  I have inserted allegedly as it is not a proven fact as far as I know  So if you can prove it that would be ok, and we must  also say he is not being linked to the above story.

Gerry McCann was a doctor at Celtic .
John Reid who was Home Secretary when Maddie went missing became Celtic chairman in 2007.
No links but lots of coincidences.


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Post  Guest on Mon 21 May 2018, 11:37 pm

Freedom wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43118069

31 years for Barry Bennell.

There is a connection between Bennell and McCafferty.
McCafferty pleaded guilty today to crimes committed in Northern Ireland and will be sentenced next month.
This was nothing to do with historic crimes committed in Scotland or England.
He is still to faces charges on those crimes.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/pervert-kitman-jim-mccafferty-sent-9413974

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Post  poster on Tue 22 May 2018, 11:54 pm

officer dibble wrote:Jim Torbett was jailed in 1998 for two years  for abusing three young players at Celtic F.C, one of which was Alan Brazil the former Manchester United star and current Talk Sport host.
Remarkably Torbett was rehired by the club after his time prison due to his close relationship with the then Celtic chairman Kevin Kelly.

Another former Celtic F.C. Chairman John Reid, Home Secretary at time of Maddie Mccann's disappearance, was labelled a sex pest by Dawn Primarolo Treasury Minister to Gordon Brown.

Dr. Gerald McCann was also an employee of aforementioned football club, Celtic F.C.

Funny old game.

Interesting to revisit this post from November 2016.
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Post  poster on Wed 23 May 2018, 1:43 am

Why was this poor boy - a rising star at Celtic football club - murdered in the most brutal fashion imaginable?


http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/The+Murder+of+Lawrence+Haggart%2C+1996
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Post  rosebuddy on Mon 05 Nov 2018, 8:37 pm

Former Celtic man Jim Torbett convicted today;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-44613935

Torbett left the boys club in 1996 when a series of articles in the Daily Record accused him of child abuse.
Gerry McCann was club doctor in the mid-90's.
Torbett was jailed in 1998 and again today.

1.http:http://themaddiecasefiles.com/celtic-daft-dad-was-a-real-pro-news-of-the-world-1-t14263.html
2.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6649319.stm


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Post  rosebuddy on Mon 05 Nov 2018, 9:05 pm

When Gerry was club doctor at celtic in the mid ninties:

McCafferty was kitman;https:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/aug/13/ex-celtic-youth-coach-jim-mccafferty-jailed-admitting-sexual-assault

Cullen was the photographer;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3505864.stm

Torbett was running the boys club;https:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-46098908

Lawrence haggart celtic youth murdered by a paedo Brian Beattie:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3240249.stm

There are more trials invloving people connected to celtic to follow shortly.

It is little wonder Gerry said his daughter was taken by paedophiles as he seems to have been surrounded by them.

All coincidence of course.

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Post  Freedom on Mon 05 Nov 2018, 11:14 pm

Indeed, all coincidence but you can't help wondering.......
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Post  unreorganised on Tue 06 Nov 2018, 10:43 am

Tangential mention of Celtic Boys Club (albeit in Edinburgh) here.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/may/07/scottish-paedophile-ring-guilty-child-abuse

Really unpleasant article, but the mention of bathing the kids of acquaintances certainly rang some bells.
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Post  Freedom on Tue 06 Nov 2018, 10:47 am

I'm not sure if I want to read it all but I'll have a go.

It will be interesting to hear if any of us who are parents ever allowed other people to bathe their children unsupervised - other than perhaps grandparents.
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Post  rosebuddy on Tue 18 Dec 2018, 11:22 am

From CMOMM,The story so far.

John Cullen
On the 25th May 2004 at Glasgow Sheriff Court Celtic official photographer John Cullen admitted taking pictures of nude and semi-naked children as young as ten after cleaners had found in excess of 250 images in his store room at Celtic Park. The perverts’ photographs had been there for more than 20 years. He admitted inviting the children to a house in Glasgow between January and December 1982 before getting them to pose for the camera. He pled guilty to a charge of lewd and libidinous behaviour. He had been employed by Celtic for 30 years.

Neil Strachan
On 7th May 2009 at The High Court in Edinburgh Neil Strachan, coach and secretary at Celtic East Boys Club was jailed for life having been found guilty of plotting with others to abuse children. He was convicted of attempting to rape an 18-month-old boy and assaulting a six-year-old. During what one newspaper described as "Scotland's worst child sex abuse trial" the jury hear lurid tales of tens of thousands of indecent images, the rape of children, bestiality and sadism.
In an email message shown in court Strachan wrote to an accomplice "I might have found us a contact with two boys, two and four, willing to share." In another message he has described "having fun with boys aged six and 18 months".
Strachan had previously been found guilty in 1997 of repeatedly sexually abusing a boy of 5 and was on the sex offenders register at the time of his crimes.

Jim McCafferty
On August 13th 2018 at Belfast Crown Court former Celtic Youth coach and kitman Jim McCafferty was sentenced to three years and nine months after admitting eight counts of sexual assault. The offences took place from December 2012 to December 2015 his victim was between 14 and 16. He will remain on the sex offenders register for an indefinite period and has been banned from working with children in any capacity.
Additionally, documents filed at Livingston Sheriff Court recently allege young boys aged between just 12 and 15 years old were victims of indecent assault and lewd, indecent and libidinous practices at the hands of the Celtic official. Many of the offences are alleged to have been committed in the Celtic Park dressing room.
He is also charged with sexually abusing children during football tours in Germany and Austria whilst he was at Celtic. McCafferty is accused of molesting 18 children whilst employed at Celtic Park between the 1970’s and 1990’s. Further charges include assaulting and attempted to s0d0mise one of the boys and wilfully ill-treating, neglecting or abandoning a child in his care or exposing him in a manner likely to cause him unnecessary suffering or injury to health.
McCafferty's trial is due to commence in January 2019.

James Torbett
5th November 2018 at the High Court in Glasgow, James Torbet the founder and former Chairman of Celtic F.C.'s youth wing Celtic Boys Club was jailed for six years after being convicted of sexually abusing three boys over an eight-year period. Two victims had been in Celtic's under-14s football teams, while the third was abused by Torbett at the age of five.
Torbett had previously been jailed for two years in 1998 for abusing three young Celtic players, including former Scotland international Alan Brazil, between 1967 and 1974. It was at the original trial that it was revealed that Celtic Manager Jock Stein knew of Torbett's sick crimes and failed to call the police – leaving Torbett free to commit further crimes against children. Court transcripts show that Stein instructed Celtic officials to cover up Torbett's paedophile activities.

Gerald King
On 6th December 2018 at Glasgow Sheriff Court former Celtic youth coach and Chairman Gerald King was convicted of sexually abusing five children. He was found guilty of five charges of using lewd and libidinous practises towards the five victims between August 1984 and April 1989. He was also found guilty of taking indecent pictures of children at Celtic's training ground Barrowfield in February 1987. King's victims were aged between nine and 13 at the time of the abuse
King worked at Celtic paedophile James Torbett’s company the Trophy Centre. Also employed at the Trophy Centre were Celtic Directors Kevin Kelly and Jack McGinn.

Frank Cairney
On 14th December 2018 at Hamilton Sheriff Court manager of Celtic's under-16 side Frank Cairney was found guilty of nine charges of sexually abusing young footballers. During the trial it was revealed that Cairney was a friend of Celtic Manager Jock Stein and adopted training methods dubbed “the Celtic way”. Cairney told the court Stein had asked him to run the Celtic youth department and admitted to being on the payroll of the football club.
Victims aged between 12 and 17 told of abuse in Cairney's car, within the Celtic Park dressing room and at Celtic's Barrowfield training ground. He was convicted of lewd, indecent and libidinous behaviour against two 12-year-old boys between December 1965 and December 1968 in Lanarkshire.
Cairney was placed on the sex offenders register and will be sentenced in January 2019.
In 1998 Cairney stood trial accused of similar charges whilst he ran the Celtic youth set-up. The trial collapsed due to traumatised witnesses failure to give evidence.
Suggestions that dozens more victims of the 6th Celtic paedophile Cairney are now ready to come forward with more allegations persist.

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