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Re: The Mystery of Corrie McKeague

Post  Guruagain on Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:48 am

I see the binman has been named in the press today. Poor sod!
I notice he is also a member of the Find Corrie Facebook page too.
Why name him now and bring a sh!t storm upon him.
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Re: The Mystery of Corrie McKeague

Post  chirpyinsect on Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:55 am

Guruagain wrote:I see the binman has been named in the press today. Poor sod!
I notice he is also a member of the Find Corrie Facebook page too.
Why name him now and bring a sh!t storm upon him.

That is a disgrace. The bouncer who asked C to leave was also named on FB. Then we had people conflating him with the person who C said I love you to. That was the manager. Also accused the guy of having had a past relationship with April. He denies this. Then they mixed him up with the person who scrapped his car next day. That was a different bouncer. Then they said he had quit his job. He gets moved around within the organisation.

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Re: The Mystery of Corrie McKeague

Post  Guruagain on Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:14 am

chirpyinsect wrote:
Guruagain wrote:I see the binman has been named in the press today. Poor sod!
I notice he is also a member of the Find Corrie Facebook page too.
Why name him now and bring a sh!t storm upon him.

That is a disgrace. The bouncer who asked C to leave was also named on FB. Then we had people conflating him with the person who C said I love you to. That was the manager. Also accused the guy of having had a past relationship with April. He denies this. Then they mixed him up with the person who scrapped his car next day. That was a different bouncer. Then they said he had quit his job. He gets moved around within the organisation.
Apparently the bouncer who hugged Corrie (and I assume is the one Corrie said he loved) Was from one of the other pubs so not even the manager of Flex! That was in yesterday EADT Q+A with the Police.
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Re: The Mystery of Corrie McKeague

Post  Andrew on Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:08 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4162864/Does-lorry-driver-hold-key-missing-Corrie-McKeague.html
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Re: The Mystery of Corrie McKeague

Post  Andrew on Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:10 am

http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/suffolk_police_answer_key_questions_around_corrie_mckeague_disappearance_in_bury_st_edmunds_part_2_1_4865089
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Re: The Mystery of Corrie McKeague

Post  Andrew on Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:27 am

https://www.thesun.co.uk/legal-removal/2715975/bin-lorry-driver-may-hold-%C2%ADcrucial-clues-to-the-fate-of-missing-raf-gunner-corrie-mckeague/

I didn't see the above article but interestingly it's been whooshed with a 'legal removal'
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Re: The Mystery of Corrie McKeague

Post  Andrew on Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:31 am

Part 2 of the questions and answers from the police:

Q: Why was there a delay in buildings in Short Brackland being searched, opposite the alleyway where Corrie was last seen?

A: From the start of the investigation the question was asked where could Corrie be. One of the early things that happened was police carried out visits to properties in the area, to see if there was any CCTV and to see if there was any way Corrie could have accessed the property – i.e. were there any break-ins or points where he could have got in unseen. Searches were carried out in this area and over the course of the investigation these have been re-visited to try to ensure nothing was missed. Police do not have an automatic right of search; however many businesses and private individuals have been extremely helpful in allowing officers access to search properties. 
All of this work was carried out alongside appeals for anyone with information to come forward and for local businesses and residents to check their properties and out-buildings.

Q: How much work is done in conjunction with the private investigation team hired by Corrie’s family?

A: The company has been employed by Nicola Urquhart and they are working independently of the police. 
Any information the company chooses to pass to the police will be considered as part of the ongoing inquiry. 
No information from the police investigation is passed to the private investigation team.

Q: Why were there no door-to-door searches carried out in the vicinity of where Corrie was last seen?

A: Door-to-door visits have been conducted in this vicinity. 
Visits were conducted to premises in the first few days to gather CCTV and extensive door-to-door work was carried out to visit premises – both businesses and private homes. In some cases premises have also been re-visited or searched again, to check and re-check – something that is not unusual under these circumstances. There will be further house-to-house taking place as, even after this time, this tactic can still be beneficial to an investigation – revisiting those spoken to previously to see if there is anything further they can recall.

The following questions have been posed by Corrie’s mother Nicola Urquhart.

The first relates to when Corrie was asked to leave Flex nightclub by the bouncer. Nicola has said the police told her initially the bouncer hugged Corrie, however this was a mistake and that bouncer was in fact from Wetherspoons, where Corrie had been earlier on the night. While the Flex bouncer had not hugged Corrie, they had got on well and she emphasised she had watched the CCTV footage and had no issue with the fact Corrie was asked to leave Flex. She said she wanted the matter cleared up so the public did not think there was anything being concealed.

Corrie's mother Nicola Urquhart joining a public search with family members
Corrie's mother Nicola Urquhart joining a public search with family members
Q: Was there a mistake made in identifying the CCTV footage showing Corrie being asked to leave Flex nightclub by the bouncer?

A: Police have never put this information into the public domain as we’re not commenting on individual interactions with Corrie on the night he disappeared. If this is the impression that was given to Corrie’s family then we apologise, however it was never our intention to mislead, simply to convey that this was good natured, as per interviews with the door staff at the venue that have been conducted by various media outlets. There was an incident where he was hugged by door staff at another venue earlier in the evening.

Q: Does CCTV of Corrie in Hughes’s doorway on the night he vanished show him using his phone? Someone received a message from Corrie at 3.08am but it is not clear if that’s when it was sent.

A: We cannot see him send the message on CCTV. Everything we have at the moment suggests the time it was sent from Corrie’s phone was 3.08am, however there remains the possibility that he could have sent it earlier in the evening and due to connectivity it did not go through immediately and that the message then went through automatically when the phone reconnected. However as Corrie is seen later than this on CCTV it does not take the inquiry any further forward. We know that this was a photo message and we have spoken to the person who received it.

Q: Are there going to be any other people from CCTV footage the police are going to look at getting identified in connection with Corrie’s disappearance?

A: There are a small number of people that still need to be traced, but the vast majority of people in the area have now been identified and spoken to. Officers have been working to identify everyone who was there in the early hours of September 24 but have to do this in a logical and systematic way. 
We have issued CCTV to a wider audience where other inquiries have not revealed the identity of an individual. 
Work continues to identify those who have not yet been traced and, if it’s appropriate and suitable images are available, these will be issued by officers.
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Re: The Mystery of Corrie McKeague

Post  chirpyinsect on Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:38 am

Guruagain wrote:
chirpyinsect wrote:
Guruagain wrote:I see the binman has been named in the press today. Poor sod!
I notice he is also a member of the Find Corrie Facebook page too.
Why name him now and bring a sh!t storm upon him.

That is a disgrace. The bouncer who asked C to leave was also named on FB. Then we had people conflating him with the person who C said I love you to. That was the manager. Also accused the guy of having had a past relationship with April. He denies this. Then they mixed him up with the person who scrapped his car next day. That was a different bouncer. Then they said he had quit his job. He gets moved around within the organisation.
Apparently the bouncer who hugged Corrie (and I assume is the one Corrie said he loved) Was from one of the other pubs so not even the manager of Flex! That was in yesterday EADT Q+A with the Police.
There was an interview with both a manager who said C hugged him and said ILY, then immediately we saw the bouncer who put him out. The interviewer was also speaking to a girl outside who remembered C from Flex due to his clothing and his chat, so I am surprised ( but not surprised) that this is now misinfirmation. Off to find that footage.

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Re: The Mystery of Corrie McKeague

Post  Andrew on Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:58 am

Andrew wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4162864/Does-lorry-driver-hold-key-missing-Corrie-McKeague.html

Didn't read this one either and was just about to but it's been pulled.

I assume it's because they've named and shamed the bin lorry driver?
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Re: The Mystery of Corrie McKeague

Post  chrissie on Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:08 am

Yes, must be that Andrew
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Re: The Mystery of Corrie McKeague

Post  chrissie on Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:20 am

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Re: The Mystery of Corrie McKeague

Post  Andrew on Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:26 am

Yeah must be Chrissie.

Did you or anyone read the articles before they were pulled?
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Re: The Mystery of Corrie McKeague

Post  chrissie on Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:37 am

I skimmed through the DM one, difficult as I'm at work. If I remember correctly, the binman they named was not the one who was driving on that day. The one that was, was spoken to early on and eliminated.

Happy to be corrected if anyone else read it properly.
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Re: The Mystery of Corrie McKeague

Post  Andrew on Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:45 am

So the press named and shamed a different driver who wasn't even in the vicinity at the time.... scratch
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Re: The Mystery of Corrie McKeague

Post  chrissie on Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:55 am

I think so....
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Re: The Mystery of Corrie McKeague

Post  TheTruthWillOut on Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:42 pm

Missed all the shenanigans I see....

Whilst I think what the press have done here is awful, though not surprising, I do wonder if they did it on purpose to try to get the Police to speak or something? I have never seen that "legal removal" in a web address before. As much as I don't like the press I do think they know a lot more than we do and are desperate to put out more stories.

I'm really starting to favour the whole bin lorry thing being a red herring and to some extent has been used by the Police to keep (other) things under wraps. Even from the family. Nearly everything put out by the family has been wrong or changed dramatically and the one question Nicola asks in the EADT article is effectively: We put out wrong info, did you make a mistake!
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Re: The Mystery of Corrie McKeague

Post  Andrew on Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:05 pm

More like a bumbling journo desperate for a scoop and getting his/her 'facts' completely wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.

Agree about the bin lorry/red herring stuff.

Just found myself reading this article nicked from Reddit.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2307116/Would-pay-1-500-abducted-broad-daylight-tortured-Welcome-bizarre-world-extreme-kidnapping.html

Although obviously Corrie was into some 'weird' stuff, then I don't think the above played any part. Although I suppose a 'game that went wrong' sort of theory is possible.
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Post  TheTruthWillOut on Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:12 pm

Probably right, Andrew but I just have a nagging feeling they have edged their bets and will take a big fine for a bigger scoop? I assume they have big and clever lawyers that go over all stories before they publish so all of it had to be weighed up first? Although I have no idea if this binman story is in print?
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Re: The Mystery of Corrie McKeague

Post  Andrew on Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:24 pm

TheTruthWillOut wrote:Probably right, Andrew but I just have a nagging feeling they have edged their bets and will take a big fine for a bigger scoop? I assume they have big and clever lawyers that go over all stories before they publish so all of it had to be weighed up first? Although I have no idea if this binman story is in print?

I'm not sure how it all works in the press game. I read the online Daily Mail a lot and the amount of stories that come out which are littered with spelling mistakes (gets corrected later on) is astonishing. So nobody clearly reads/approves it before it goes out.

I went to a cafe at lunchtime and they had a copy of the Sun but there was no articles on Corrie in it.
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Re: The Mystery of Corrie McKeague

Post  TheTruthWillOut on Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:36 pm

Andrew wrote:
TheTruthWillOut wrote:Probably right, Andrew but I just have a nagging feeling they have edged their bets and will take a big fine for a bigger scoop? I assume they have big and clever lawyers that go over all stories before they publish so all of it had to be weighed up first? Although I have no idea if this binman story is in print?

I'm not sure how it all works in the press game. I read the online Daily Mail a lot and the amount of stories that come out which are littered with spelling mistakes (gets corrected later on) is astonishing. So nobody clearly reads/approves it before it goes out.

I went to a cafe at lunchtime and they had a copy of the Sun but there was no articles on Corrie in it.

Sure they don't proofread in the digital age but when you are naming a person and claiming they did something surely even by the low standards of the Red Tops they get lawyers to go over things? If they have cocked up big time lets hope the fine puts them out of business!
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Re: The Mystery of Corrie McKeague

Post  chrissie on Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:55 pm

FOI reveals missing Corrie McKeague probe has cost police £300,000 so far

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/foi-reveals-missing-corrie-mckeague-12517170#ICID=sharebar_twitter
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Re: The Mystery of Corrie McKeague

Post  TheTruthWillOut on Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:01 pm

chrissie wrote:FOI reveals missing Corrie McKeague probe has cost police £300,000 so far

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/foi-reveals-missing-corrie-mckeague-12517170#ICID=sharebar_twitter

Interesting. I wonder why such a low figure (26k) was given when the BBC did one a few weeks ago? Were they waiting for the bills to come in?

I have linked this article on Websleuths...Hope you don't mind chrissie!
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Re: The Mystery of Corrie McKeague

Post  chrissie on Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:16 pm

No problem at all TTWO
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Re: The Mystery of Corrie McKeague

Post  Andrew on Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:24 pm

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2727313/hunt-for-missing-raf-gunner-corrie-mckeague-tops-300000-but-cops-still-have-no-idea-why-he-vanished-without-trace-after-night-out/

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/corrie-mckeagues-mum-delighted-police-12516808
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Re: The Mystery of Corrie McKeague

Post  TheTruthWillOut on Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:41 pm

Corrie's dad Martin is now posting on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Corrie_McKeague/comments/5qda6m/corrie_mckeague_update_26_january_2017_martin/

Interesting read....
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