ITV This Morning 21/02/17

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Re: ITV This Morning 21/02/17

Post  espeland on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 12:12 pm

Interesting that he didn't mention an abduction, as Andrew says. What struck me was that he said, and repeated, that information was being withheld (by him presumably) for legal reasons. I didn't get the impression that he was supporting the McCanns.
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Re: ITV This Morning 21/02/17

Post  Freedom on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 12:16 pm

Has he ever said what he thinks happened to her thereafter? It's perfectly feasible that she could have wandered off looking for her parents but why has she never been found in that case?

A tragic story here of a toddler who wandered from his home.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2915135/jacob-mcintyre-drowned-perthsire-toddler/
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Re: ITV This Morning 21/02/17

Post  chirpyinsect on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 12:19 pm

Complete waste of time. MWT supporting the idea that M is still alive though he says woke and wandered. He said the back door was unsecured. Why not just say left unlocked by the parents? Notice he didn't say what the new court case was about but got in that the parents had their arguido status lifted in 2008. In other words no mention that the court case is about the SC saying they had not been cleared of involvement. Crafty.
If he isn't on the pay roll of whoever is covering for the parents then the sun won't rise tomorrow.

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Re: ITV This Morning 21/02/17

Post  Poe on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 12:19 pm

To me, Phillip Schofield looked terrified and he was very quick to cut MWT off at the end.

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Re: ITV This Morning 21/02/17

Post  Andrew on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 12:23 pm

Poe wrote:To me, Phillip Schofield looked terrified and he was very quick to cut MWT off at the end.

Yes, I noticed that as well. A bit of a rabbit caught in the headlights.

Maybe Gerry was stood off camera behind the sofa with one of those menacing looks of his holding a syringe or something.
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Re: ITV This Morning 21/02/17

Post  froggy on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 12:25 pm

I'm surprised that such a lightweight show even ran the item. Clearly was a waste of time.
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Re: ITV This Morning 21/02/17

Post  Andrew on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 12:49 pm

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/astonishing-new-madeleine-mccann-theory-9860820
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Re: ITV This Morning 21/02/17

Post  espeland on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 12:50 pm

I guess that proves that there is a gagging order in force, which explains why he didn't say anything meaningful and Phillip Schofield cut him off at the end. On the positive side, his repeated comments re "legal reasons" may persuade at least some of the public to hunt for information on the internet.
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Re: ITV This Morning 21/02/17

Post  chrissie on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 12:51 pm

Not watched it yet but sounds to me that they may have had something else planned but had to cut it. Legal threat or OG? MWT was drafted in at short notice to fill the slot.
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Re: ITV This Morning 21/02/17

Post  Poe on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 1:38 pm

Andrew wrote:
Poe wrote:To me, Phillip Schofield looked terrified and he was very quick to cut MWT off at the end.

Yes, I noticed that as well. A bit of a rabbit caught in the headlights.

Maybe Gerry was stood off camera behind the sofa with one of those menacing looks of his holding a syringe or something.

Or Lorraine, not happy that these two are muscling in on her turf, is stood behind the camera cracking her knuckles which have the words "LEGAL" & "RESNS" tattooed across them. Very Happy
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Re: ITV This Morning 21/02/17

Post  Bampots on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 1:40 pm

Lots of comments on their FB page now........including this one a gleaned from Textusa.....

https://m.facebook.com/ThisMorning/posts/10155218405142122:0?hc_location=ufi

This was aomplete waste of minutes of my life I will never get back. Why this eejit gets air time isn't a mystery though. He supports neglect leading to her waking and wandering off!!
Nobody saw her or heard her.
She would have been wailing in the dark. Into the arms of the person who just happened to be there and took her.
An insult to all intelligent people.
I suppose morning TV is the best place for such propaganda.
A Mc supporter who avoided saying what he could have said without any legal restrictions - what SJC was and what was said.

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Re: ITV This Morning 21/02/17

Post  Antonia on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 2:21 pm

just watched it.

What an idiot MWT is!

he states as a fact that there were a lot of mistakes in the original police investigation but does not state what they were.

When asked for his theory of what happened, he mentions the (alleged) conversation in the morning of may 3rd when madeleine asked her mum why she hadn't come when there was crying the night before. His theory is that madeleine awoke 'in the middle of the night' ie night of may 3rd and left the apartment to look for her parents (presumably very upset = my words not MWT) he said the backdoor was 'insecure' as opposed to unlocked!!!

Now Kate claims she found her missing c.10pm so how could she had wandered off in the 'middle of the night'?

Unless he meant the middle of the night of may 2nd, that the conversation at breakfast on may 3 did not happen and Kate only noticed her daughter was missing nearly a day after she actually went missing!
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Re: ITV This Morning 21/02/17

Post  Poe on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 2:28 pm

The big question is: who imposed the legal restrictions?

Why would the McCanns Carter Ruck a sympathetic journo pushing the neglect theory? Or have the Met started to restrict what can and cannot be said about the case?

Personally, I don't think he is pro-McCann. I think he is pro-MWT and was probably planning to position himself upfront and center, ready for when the brown stuff hits.

It strikes me that his little speech was cobbled together at the last minute because he couldn't say what he was planning to say and it was too late to cancel.
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Re: ITV This Morning 21/02/17

Post  chrissie on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 2:49 pm

One of the Facebook comments:

Maybe they could explain to everyone of us that donated to the find madeleine fund how the money has been spent because that was our hard earned money donated to what we believed to be a charity to find Maddie...not to fund legal battles not to sue people and definately not to be used to be invested for the parents in which ever way they see fit.!!! Just my opinion
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Must be quite a few people who donated feeling like that now
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Re: ITV This Morning 21/02/17

Post  Freedom on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 3:13 pm

I presume that you haven't realised only now, Antonia, that MWT is an idiot!

Those bits about the middle of the night and the insecure door jumped out at me too.
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Re: ITV This Morning 21/02/17

Post  Andrew on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 3:26 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/21/madeleine-mccanns-parents-attack-portuguese-judges-acting-frivolously/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2917800/madeleine-mccann-left-apartment-and-went-looking-for-her-parents-in-tapas-bar-on-night-she-went-missing-claims-tv-detective/

http://lifestyle.one/closer/celebrity/news/jodie-marsh-twitter-kate-gerry-mccann-madeleine-morning-tv/

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/uk-news/new-theory-madeleine-mccann-went-12635470
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Re: ITV This Morning 21/02/17

Post  canada12 on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 3:42 pm

If there is some kind of injunction in place and MWT is allowed to say that he thinks Madeleine woke and wandered then you can be certain that's exactly NOT what happened - as he wouldn't have been able to say even that if it was one of the things that was actively being investigated regarding what happened to her. Just my opinion.
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Re: ITV This Morning 21/02/17

Post  Antonia on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 3:47 pm

I thought little of Jodie marsh; judged as a typical thick glamour model. But following her tweet campaign linked in an earlier post I have revised my opinion.

Jodie should have been on the show and not MWT.
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Re: ITV This Morning 21/02/17

Post  Freedom on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 3:49 pm

Why is MWT's theory about Madeleine wandering off being treated as if nobody has ever thought of it before?

That was the obvious solution right from the start - before of course we knew that all was not what it seemed with the case.

MWT stands for Mighty Waste of Time in my view; it would be better though if his name was Smith as he would then be Mighty Waste of Space!
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Re: ITV This Morning 21/02/17

Post  Andrew on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 3:50 pm

canada12 wrote:If there is some kind of injunction in place and MWT is allowed to say that he thinks Madeleine woke and wandered then you can be certain that's exactly NOT what happened - as he wouldn't have been able to say even that if it was one of the things that was actively being investigated regarding what happened to her. Just my opinion.

.... Or woke and wandered (climbed up on the couch and fell) akin to Goncalo's theory but for 'legal reasons' couldn't say that so just stuck with the woke and wandered bit....

Anyway the doors were locked. They only became unlocked when they realised their bullsh!t story didn't stack up.
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Re: ITV This Morning 21/02/17

Post  Andrew on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 4:01 pm

For those who want to have a look in on the Jodie Marsh twitter:

https://twitter.com/JodieMarsh?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

And here's M W-T's as well:

https://twitter.com/mwilliamsthomas?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Unusually for him he hasn't uttered a pip squeak since This Morning's mess.
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Re: ITV This Morning 21/02/17

Post  Freedom on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 4:18 pm

Re the comments this morning as to whether MWT ever worked for Team McCann, someone on Facebook has said that he was once their paid PR officer. I have asked him for more details.
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Re: ITV This Morning 21/02/17

Post  Andrew on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 4:20 pm

Snipped:

Williams-Thomas received a mixed reception on social media sharing site Twitter for his views, with one user tweeting: "I think Mark Williams-Thomas caused more havoc if I'm honest.. pointless item. #mccann" as another put: "You should know that Mark Williams Thomas's company was the first to do the PR for the McCanns. Hardly objective."

A third added: "Sad man telling lies about a dead child. What an utter creep and fraud you are Mark Williams-Thomas."


http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/madeleine-mccann-disappearance-new-shocking-theory-revealed-by-investigative-journalist-1607810
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Re: ITV This Morning 21/02/17

Post  Andrew on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 4:23 pm

Freedom wrote:Re the comments this morning as to whether MWT ever worked for Team McCann, someone on Facebook has said that he was once their paid PR officer. I have asked him for more details.

Questioned yesterday, September 14, about his business relationship, as a expert also in media handling and advice for high profile cases, Mr. Mark Williams-Thomas initially confirmed that his company had a contract to provide services to the McCann. Asked to confirm some details of that business relationship, he changed his initial answer and denied any relationship, admitting only that he has “been in contact with the press officers for the family.” more

http://onlyinamericablogging.blogspot.com/2012/09/mark-williams-thomas.html
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Re: ITV This Morning 21/02/17

Post  froggy on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 4:24 pm

What's supposed to be new about his theory?
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