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Post  Rosa canina on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 4:13 am

New Zealand's own Gloriavale in the news again :

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/west-coast/90924638/gloriavale-nine-questions-we-can-answer-and-one-we-cant

I wound up by their gates on the West Coast of the South Island a couple of years ago -

(wrong turn)

- a spooky, isolated, rainy and sandfly-ridden place.

It was horrible...!

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Post  Andrew on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 8:50 am

Never heard of that Gloriavale place before. (I suppose I wouldn't living 12,000 miles away). Just read a bit more on Wiki.

A weird and strange set up then.

Sort of reminds me of a film I watched again not so long back called The Village.
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Post  Freedom on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 11:56 am

Me neither, Andrew.

I'll read up about it at my leisure.

Many years ago a cult tried to drag me in but, not having much of a brain to wash, I escaped! Not a joke, it did happen. I can understand how vulnerable people get entangled with cults.

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Post  Andrew on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 12:00 pm

Freedom wrote:Me neither, Andrew.

I'll read up about it at my leisure.

Many years ago a cult tried to drag me in but, not having much of a brain to wash, I escaped! Not a joke, it did happen. I can understand how vulnerable people get entangled with cults.

What a coincidence. I had a very similar experience on CMoMM as well.
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Post  Freedom on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 12:09 pm

I think it was a bit easier to escape their clutches than a mob in the real world!

Alarm bells started ringing with the lot I was with when they disapproved of outside activities in which they weren't involved and, without being asked, arranged a sitter for my son so that I could attend their meetings.

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Post  unreorganised on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 1:15 pm

It doesn't sound entirely unlike this.

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Post  unreorganised on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 1:29 pm

This seems to be the way to do it properly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Findhorn_Foundation

I first heard if it in the film My Dinner With Andre, which I would recommend to anybody, although I should warn you that absolutely nothing at all happens in it, except a lengthy conversation between two blokes. On the plus side one of them is the dinosaur out of Toy Story, which can be a bit disconcerting if you've got kids.
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Post  Mimi on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 2:27 pm

Freedom wrote:Me neither, Andrew.

I'll read up about it at my leisure.

Many years ago a cult tried to drag me in but, not having much of a brain to wash, I escaped! Not a joke, it did happen. I can understand how vulnerable people get entangled with cults.

Same here Freedom - I nearly got lured into Scientology - dreadful people.  I attended one of their annual meetings at Saint Hill and it was sooooooooo creepy - there weren`t any rituals or anything like that, but it was the utter gullibility of the audience of thousands that had bought into it (literally), hanging onto and cheering every word of the speakers.  It made me and my friend shudder and get out quickly.

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Post  Freedom on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 2:38 pm

I won't mention the name of my lot but they had mostly left recognised Christian denominations to set up their own groups.

They didn't have a fixed place of worship; instead meeting in school halls and the like. At first the meetings were very informal, with tea and biscuits served and it was a nice friendly atmosphere.

It may sound trivial but they suddenly stopped the tea and biscuits and it was then that the atmosphere changed, becoming much more what I'd call hard sell.

When I eventually saw the light (not of course in the way they wanted) and left, it was with the worlds "you'll go to hell" ringing in my ears. It was like something out of the Middle Ages.

I've been reading about the cult in New Zealand - shudder!

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Post  Andrew on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 2:48 pm

unreorganised wrote:This seems to be the way to do it properly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Findhorn_Foundation

I first heard if it in the film My Dinner With Andre, which I would recommend to anybody, although I should warn you that absolutely nothing at all happens in it, except a lengthy conversation between two blokes. On the plus side one of them is the dinosaur out of Toy Story, which can be a bit disconcerting if you've got kids.

Never heard of that one either. Was just having a quick read of the link.

Sounds alright to me. Might sign up (for a week).
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Post  Mimi on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 2:59 pm

Back in the 80s/90s and probably `looking for meaning` I must have studied nearly all religions plus Rosicrucianism, Theosophy, Qabalah, Meditation, Tai Chi, Yoga and goodness knows what else plus different forms of psychology and therapy. And the only religion that comes nearest to my own thinking is Buddhism with a touch of Theosophy and Astrology (which, whatever anyone says, I know works). And you don`t have to believe in a god for any of them - it`s all down to you being your own god.

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Post  Châtelaine on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 6:11 pm

"Part" of God, I'd say ...
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Post  Rosa canina on Tue 09 May 2017, 11:20 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/were-no-cult-says-british-expats-group-1285145.html

An old, but interesting read.

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