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Post  wjk on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 12:38 pm

Martin Brunt has just said he has an embargoed interview with an Inspector from the Met to be shown tonight.
He did also say it doesn't tell us much, or words to that effect.

Edited to add this UPDAYE STATEMENT FROM AC MARK ROWLEY AT 9 PM 25th APRIL 2017

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AC Mark Rowley reflects on the tenth anniversary of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann


Blog post   •  Apr 25, 2017 21:00 BST


[Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley]



As an investigation team we are only too aware of the significance of dates and anniversaries. Whatever the inquiry, we want to get answers for everyone involved.

The disappearance of Madeleine McCann is no different in that respect but of course the circumstances and the huge public interest, make this a unique case for us as police officers to deal with. In a missing child inquiry every day is agony and an anniversary brings this into sharp focus. Our thoughts are with Madeleine's family at this time - as it is with any family in a missing person’s inquiry - and that drives our commitment to do everything we can for her.

On 3rd May 2017, it will be 10 years since Madeleine vanished from her apartment in Praia Da Luz, a small town on the Algarve. In the immediate hours following her disappearance, an extensive search commenced involving the local police, community and tourists. This led to an investigation that has involved police services across Europe and beyond, experts in many fields, the world’s media and the public, which continues to this day. The image of Madeleine remains instantly recognisable in many countries across the world.

The Met’s dedicated team of four detectives, continues to work closely on the outstanding enquiries along with colleagues of the Portuguese Policia Judiciária. Our relationship with the Policia Judiciária is good. We continue to work together and this is helping us to move forward the investigation.

We don't have evidence telling us if Madeleine is alive or dead. It is a missing person’s inquiry but as a team we are realistic about what we might be dealing with - especially as months turn to years.

Now is a time we can reflect on an investigation which captured an unprecedented amount of media coverage and interest. The enormity of scale and the complexity of such a case brings along its own challenges, not least learning to work with colleagues who operate under a very different legal system. The inquiry has been, and continues to be helped and supported by many organisations and individuals. We acknowledge the difference these contributions have made to the investigation and would like it known that we appreciate all the support we have and continue to receive.

Since the Met was instructed by the Home Office to review the case in 2011, we have reviewed all the material gathered from multiple sources since 2007. This amounted to over 40,000 documents out of which thousands of enquiries were generated. We continue to receive information on a daily basis, all of which is assessed and actioned for enquiries to be conducted.

We have appealed on four BBC Crimewatch programmes since April 2012. This included an age progression image which resulted in hundreds of calls about alleged sightings of Madeleine; an appeal for the identity of possibly relevant individuals through description or Efit; and information sought relating to suspicious behaviour or offences of burglary. These programmes collectively produced a fantastic response from the public. The thousands of calls and information enabled detectives to progress a number of enquiries. This was in addition to over 3,000 holiday photographs from the public in response to an earlier appeal.

The team has looked at in excess of 600 individuals who were identified as being potentially significant to the disappearance. In 2013 the team identified four individuals they declared to be suspects in the case. This led to interviews at a police station in Faro facilitated by the local Policia Judiciária and the search of a large area of wasteland which is close to Madeleine's apartment in Praia Da Luz. The enquiries did not find any evidence to further implicate the individuals in the disappearance and so they are no longer subject of further investigation.

We will not comment on other parts of our investigation - it does not help the teams investigating to give a commentary on those aspects. I am pleased to say that our relationship with the Portuguese investigators is better than ever and this is paying dividends in the progress all of us are making.

We are often asked about funding and you can see that we are now a much smaller team. We know we have the funding to look at the focused enquiry we are pursuing.

Of course we always want information and we can't rule out making new appeals if that is required. However, right now, new appeals or prompts to the public are not in the interest of what we are trying to achieve.

As detectives, we will always be extremely disappointed when we are unable to provide an explanation of what happened. However the work carried out by Portuguese and Met officers in reviewing material and reopening the investigation has been successful in taking a number of lines of interest to their conclusion. That work has provided important answers.

Right now we are committed to taking the current inquiry as far as we possibly can and we are confident that will happen. Ultimately this, and the previous work, gives all of us the very best chance of getting the answers – although we must, of course, remember that no investigation can guarantee to provide a definitive conclusion.

However the Met, jointly with colleagues from the Policia Judiciária continue the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann with focus and determination.
http://news.met.police.uk/blog_posts/ac-mark-rowley-reflects-on-the-tenth-anniversary-of-the-disappearance-of-madeleine-mccann-56775

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Post  Andrew on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 12:40 pm

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Post  Andrew on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 12:42 pm

Did it say what time, WJK?
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Post  bluebell on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 1:03 pm

What does he mean by 'embargoed interview'? Would that be an interview that is held back until a certain time when it is allowed to be released? Curious confused

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Post  unreorganised on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 1:05 pm

bluebell wrote:What does he mean by 'embargoed interview'?   Would that be an interview that is held back until a certain time when it is allowed to be released?   Curious   confused

Yes, that's what it means, although why - especially if it's not particularly enlightening - is a bit strange.
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Post  unreorganised on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 1:08 pm

Andrew wrote:Martin Brunt Mad

Just do what I'm sure some of us do already and think of it as rhyming slang.
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Post  candyfloss on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 1:17 pm

As ndrew would say, sticking this here, haven't read it, can someone post it at all if they are a member.


ann-kristine‏ @fiorifan · 16m16 minutes ago


#McCann Blacksmith has just posted something very interesting on http://themaddiecasefiles.com main thread. Gives me a modicum of hope.

















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Post  wjk on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 1:18 pm

Andrew wrote:Did it say what time, WJK?

No Andrew, just it's embargoed for now & will be shown later this evening

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Post  wjk on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 1:27 pm

unreorganised wrote:
bluebell wrote:What does he mean by 'embargoed interview'?   Would that be an interview that is held back until a certain time when it is allowed to be released?   Curious   confused

Yes, that's what it means, although why - especially if it's not particularly enlightening - is a bit strange.

I imagine all the press have been given an interview with the Inspector & have all agreed to release it at the same time?

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Post  wjk on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 1:31 pm

candyfloss wrote:As ndrew would say, sticking this here, haven't read it, can someone post it at all if they are a member.


ann-kristine‏ @fiorifan · 16m16 minutes ago
 

#McCann Blacksmith has just posted something very interesting on http://themaddiecasefiles.com  main thread. Gives me a modicum of hope.



 







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Rowley's comments confirm that the four suspects that the press, via supposed "police sources", consistently told us are the centre and focus of investigation are no such thing. Just like that. They never existed of course.

On another matter, BB's comment yesterday about the impact that Redwood's Crimewatch assassination of three people - KM, GM and Bundleman - must have had on the couple led me to take a brief look at what it does to the "narrative".

The typed timeline is described by its nine authors as “Sequence of Events 8.30PM – 10PM”. It consists of 1190 words.

According to the released findings of Operation Grange (Redwood) the period 9.35 to 10 PM is the critical window of opportunity. The period 8.30-9.35 is no longer considered the critical period, due to the discounting of the supposed abductor.

In theory this development of the investigation should leave the balance and content of the original statements, if sincere and contemporaneous, largely intact. What do we find?

Of the 1190 words, 905, or no fewer than 76% describe the unimportant period 8.30 – 9.35. Of these 355 are devoted to the fanciful details of a non-existent abductor. A further 223 are devoted to what KM claims to have seen in the apartment at 10PM. That leaves 68 words of description – 5% of the total – for the vital period of interest 9.35 to 10PM.

It is noteworthy that the timeline for the period 9.10 to 9.20 alibis both Kate McCann and Gerry McCann by fixing their locations at the time the supposed abductor was striding away. For the period 9.35 – 10PM, in stark contrast, this is the information content in total:

2135: MO returns to restaurant table, by which time main courses are arriving or being eaten. MO tells JT that E**e unwell.
2140: JT returns to 5D to take over care of E**e from RJO.
2145: RJO returns to table to eat main course leaving JT in 5D.
2155: RMO asked time at table. RJO's main course arrives.
2200: (approx): KM leaves table to check children in 5A.

There is, of course, no mention of Gerry McCann’s whereabouts.

Well, well.





 




 



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Post  candyfloss on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 1:58 pm

Thanks so much wjk for bringing that to us flower

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Post  wjk on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 2:08 pm

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Post  Poe on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 5:12 pm

It can't be "big" news because Kay Burley would have insisted on doing the interview.

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Post  candyfloss on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 9:09 pm

Jerry Lawton‏ @JerryLawton · 52s52 seconds ago


AC Rowley: `Big cases can take a lot of resources and a lot of time. We've tried to be careful about public money.' #mccann


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AC Rowley: `We will stick with it as long as the funding's available and as long as there are sensible lines of inquiry to pursue.' #mccann


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AC Mark Rowley reflects on the tenth anniversary of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann


Blog post   •  Apr 25, 2017 21:00 BST




 
[Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley]



As an investigation team we are only too aware of the significance of dates and anniversaries. Whatever the inquiry, we want to get answers for everyone involved.

The disappearance of Madeleine McCann is no different in that respect but of course the circumstances and the huge public interest, make this a unique case for us as police officers to deal with. In a missing child inquiry every day is agony and an anniversary brings this into sharp focus. Our thoughts are with Madeleine's family at this time - as it is with any family in a missing person’s inquiry - and that drives our commitment to do everything we can for her.

On 3rd May 2017, it will be 10 years since Madeleine vanished from her apartment in Praia Da Luz, a small town on the Algarve. In the immediate hours following her disappearance, an extensive search commenced involving the local police, community and tourists. This led to an investigation that has involved police services across Europe and beyond, experts in many fields, the world’s media and the public, which continues to this day. The image of Madeleine remains instantly recognisable in many countries across the world.

The Met’s dedicated team of four detectives, continues to work closely on the outstanding enquiries along with colleagues of the Portuguese Policia Judiciária. Our relationship with the Policia Judiciária is good. We continue to work together and this is helping us to move forward the investigation.

We don't have evidence telling us if Madeleine is alive or dead. It is a missing person’s inquiry but as a team we are realistic about what we might be dealing with - especially as months turn to years.

Now is a time we can reflect on an investigation which captured an unprecedented amount of media coverage and interest. The enormity of scale and the complexity of such a case brings along its own challenges, not least learning to work with colleagues who operate under a very different legal system. The inquiry has been, and continues to be helped and supported by many organisations and individuals. We acknowledge the difference these contributions have made to the investigation and would like it known that we appreciate all the support we have and continue to receive.

Since the Met was instructed by the Home Office to review the case in 2011, we have reviewed all the material gathered from multiple sources since 2007. This amounted to over 40,000 documents out of which thousands of enquiries were generated. We continue to receive information on a daily basis, all of which is assessed and actioned for enquiries to be conducted.

We have appealed on four BBC Crimewatch programmes since April 2012. This included an age progression image which resulted in hundreds of calls about alleged sightings of Madeleine; an appeal for the identity of possibly relevant individuals through description or Efit; and information sought relating to suspicious behaviour or offences of burglary. These programmes collectively produced a fantastic response from the public. The thousands of calls and information enabled detectives to progress a number of enquiries. This was in addition to over 3,000 holiday photographs from the public in response to an earlier appeal.

The team has looked at in excess of 600 individuals who were identified as being potentially significant to the disappearance. In 2013 the team identified four individuals they declared to be suspects in the case. This led to interviews at a police station in Faro facilitated by the local Policia Judiciária and the search of a large area of wasteland which is close to Madeleine's apartment in Praia Da Luz. The enquiries did not find any evidence to further implicate the individuals in the disappearance and so they are no longer subject of further investigation.

We will not comment on other parts of our investigation - it does not help the teams investigating to give a commentary on those aspects. I am pleased to say that our relationship with the Portuguese investigators is better than ever and this is paying dividends in the progress all of us are making.

We are often asked about funding and you can see that we are now a much smaller team. We know we have the funding to look at the focused enquiry we are pursuing.

Of course we always want information and we can't rule out making new appeals if that is required. However, right now, new appeals or prompts to the public are not in the interest of what we are trying to achieve.

As detectives, we will always be extremely disappointed when we are unable to provide an explanation of what happened. However the work carried out by Portuguese and Met officers in reviewing material and reopening the investigation has been successful in taking a number of lines of interest to their conclusion. That work has provided important answers.

Right now we are committed to taking the current inquiry as far as we possibly can and we are confident that will happen. Ultimately this, and the previous work, gives all of us the very best chance of getting the answers – although we must, of course, remember that no investigation can guarantee to provide a definitive conclusion.

However the Met, jointly with colleagues from the Policia Judiciária continue the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann with focus and determination.
http://news.met.police.uk/blog_posts/ac-mark-rowley-reflects-on-the-tenth-anniversary-of-the-disappearance-of-madeleine-mccann-56775

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Post  froggy on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 9:17 pm

No mention of the parents or of keeping them informed of progress I notice.
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Post  candyfloss on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 9:18 pm

froggy wrote:No mention of the parents or of keeping them informed of progress I notice.

Immediately struck me too froggy.

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Post  candyfloss on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 9:21 pm

Statement from AC Mark Rowley added to the first post of this thread ...

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Post  Helenmeg on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 9:23 pm

I liked this bit from Sky News UK ##

Portugal's deputy national director of the Policia Judiciaria, Pedro do Carmo, told Sky News that he was under no financial or political pressure to wind up his re-opened investigation.

He said: "If the Metropolitan Police decides to close its investigation that doesn't mean we are going to close ours.

"Our two investigations are not dependent on one another."

Regarding Rowley, well there's some positive stuff in there. At least he's not saying 'well we're not seeing anything new and it looks unlikely we will' ...

for example,
That work has provided important answers.

However, right now, new appeals or prompts to the public are not in the interest of what we are trying to achieve

I am pleased to say that our relationship with the Portuguese investigators is better than ever and this is paying dividends in the progress all of us are making.


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Post  candyfloss on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 9:31 pm

Simon Hare‏ @SimonHareBBC · 53s

Met police chief says "there was no reason whatsoever" to suspect Madeleine's parents were involved in her disappearance. #mccann


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Post  candyfloss on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 9:32 pm

Jerry Lawton‏ @JerryLawton · 27m27 minutes ago



AC Rowley says police have at least 2 theories on Madeleine #McCann – victim of paedophile or `burglary gone wrong'


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Jerry Lawton‏ @JerryLawton · 28m28 minutes ago



AC Rowley said his detectives are `hurting' because they may not crack the Madeleine #McCann case


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Post  candyfloss on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 9:34 pm

Jerry Lawton‏ @JerryLawton · 29m29 minutes ago



AC Rowley: `I so wish I could say we will definitely solve it' but `I just can't quite guarantee it'. #mccann


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Post  AndyB on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 9:34 pm

candyfloss wrote:
froggy wrote:No mention of the parents or of keeping them informed of progress I notice.

Immediately struck me too froggy.
And yet the BBC article below quotes him as saying there's no evidence to implicate the parents and, in the video on the page, he says the investigation is to provide answers to her family.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39706194 Shocked
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