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Post  Andrew Thu 11 May 2017, 11:01 am

From your neck of the woods, Dee:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4495180/Lawyer-Renata-Antczak-missing-two-weeks.html

Married lawyer hasn't been seen since she dropped her 11-year-old daughter off at school in her Mercedes two weeks ago
Renata Antczak drove home in Hull, East Yorkshire, after doing the school run
But later that day she walked out of the house and has not been seen since
Concerns are growing for the mother-of-two and lawyer who moved to England last year


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Post  Andrew Sun 14 May 2017, 10:18 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4505288/Is-proof-missing-mother-planned-flee.html

Is this proof that a missing mother planned to flee? Last picture shows lawyer, 49, at her daughter's birthday party - after insisting on holding it three weeks early
Photo of daughter's birthday party could hold clue to disappearance of mother
Renata Antczak, 49, went missing three weeks ago from her home in Hull
She 'insisted on having party for daughter three weeks before 11th birthday'
Husband Majid Mustafa said it was 'evidence she had planned to leave'
Believes she has joined 'sect' after becoming obsessed with alternative therapy
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Post  Andrew Sun 14 May 2017, 10:25 pm

I reckon the Doctor Husband has bumped her off.

That's my gut instinct anyway.
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Post  Freedom Sun 14 May 2017, 10:28 pm

It's strange though about her insisting on holding a birthday party so early.
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Post  Andrew Sun 14 May 2017, 10:31 pm

Freedom wrote:It's strange though about her insisting on holding a birthday party so early.

So he says. It could be him organising all that in a cunning plan.
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Post  Andrew Fri 19 May 2017, 11:12 am

Andrew wrote:I reckon the Doctor Husband has bumped her off.

That's my gut instinct anyway.

There you go:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4521858/Two-men-arrested-disappearance-Renata-Antczak.html
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Post  Freedom Fri 19 May 2017, 12:02 pm

Yes, I see that one of them is 47, the same age as the husband........
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Post  Andrew Fri 19 May 2017, 12:06 pm

Ah but he's a doctor so can't possibly be involved or done any wrongdoing......

Clarence talk.
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Post  Freedom Fri 19 May 2017, 12:08 pm

A dentist - does that make a difference?!

We will have to wait and see if he's been lying through his teeth.......
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Post  Andrew Sat 20 May 2017, 10:24 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4525846/Police-quiz-missing-Polish-lawyer-s-mother-84.html

Police quiz missing Polish lawyer's mother, 84, as she finds mystery man's business card in forest retreat her daughter shared with dentist husband
Renata Antczak has been missing from her Hull home for almost a month
Police investigating rumours she had affair with a man named Przemek
Card bearing that name found in Polish hideaway owned by the family




(Had an affair and the hubby had her bumped off. Probably by someone else - the 2nd man who was arrested. Imo)
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Post  Andrew Sun 21 May 2017, 8:35 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4528056/Husband-missing-mother-charged-following-disappearance.html

Dentist husband of missing Polish lawyer, 49, is CHARGED with conspiracy to administer a noxious substance following her disappearance one month ago
Husband of the missing Renata Antczak has been charged in her disappearance
Husband Majid Mustafa, 49, and Robert Lipinski are charged with plotting GBH
Renata has not been seen since dropping her daughter off at school on April 25
Before she disappeared from her home Renata left behind a mysterious note
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Post  Dee Coy Sun 21 May 2017, 9:08 pm

Hi Andrew, just seen you've put this case on here. It's been news here for about a month. 

The husband was the last to see her allegedly leaving the house. Of course, as soon as he then appeared in the local press claiming she'd asked for a divorce and had returned to Poland to join a cult it was just a matter of time before the inevitable happened and good old hubby was arrested. I thought it was my cynical McCann mind being resignedly suspicious but my youngest also said the same thing - he's killed her.

Forensic teams have been at various locations in the city since Friday - their house, his dentist's surgery, a Polish occupied house at the other side of the city and another house on a council housing estate. So it sounds like there are several people involved. I wonder if the noxious substances were filched from his surgery?

I believe the husband is muslim, judging from his name. She is Polish. I do not know if this is relevant in this case but it struck me that the wife - an independent lawyer - may have behaved in a way not acceptable to some religious men if she wanted an autonomous life as a non-muslim? Just a thought and may be way-off. Certainly the dentist seemed to be very caring and popular with his patients.

No body has been found. It is still being treated as a 'disappearance' (I know, I know) but then we have these GBH charges today...

Latest:

http://m.hulldailymail.co.uk/missing-renata-antczak-homes-linked-to-search-still-under-24-hour-guard/story-30345309-detail/story.html

http://m.hulldailymail.co.uk/forensic-police-in-5th-avenue-north-hull-what-we-know-so-far/story-30345244-detail/story.html

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Post  Andrew Sun 21 May 2017, 10:26 pm

Thanks for the links and the local insight, Dee.

Do keep us posted on any other local news (gossip) that comes out. It's an intriguing one this. And sadly I don't think Renata is still alive.
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Post  Dee Coy Mon 22 May 2017, 8:49 am

The dentist and the other man accused are in court this morning.

The raid on the council estate house is described in the report below. Sounds heavy, and it turns out the residents are also Polish. Poor Renata, still no sign of her either way.

http://m.hulldailymail.co.uk/3am-police-sting-in-5th-avenue-hull-caught-on-cctv-before-forensics-called-in/story-30345395-detail/story.html

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Post  Dee Coy Mon 22 May 2017, 10:38 am


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Post  Andrew Mon 22 May 2017, 12:32 pm

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Post  Dee Coy Mon 22 May 2017, 1:38 pm

Blimey, how many more houses are involved? I make that 5 including the dentist surgery.

I'm off to get gardening stuff from town in a minute and keep a sly eye out for Jezza who's on the prowl here, and will be passing that street. I'll have a gander.

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Post  Dee Coy Mon 22 May 2017, 1:47 pm

Actually, scrap that! Just been told Spring Bank is completely closed! That's a major route into the city! Crumbs.

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Post  Andrew Mon 22 May 2017, 2:08 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4530184/Husband-missing-lawyer-court-poisoning-charge.html

Dentist husband of missing lawyer appears in court charged with POISONING after the disappearance of the 49-year-old Polish mother
Mother-of-two disappeared more than three weeks ago from her home in Hull
Her husband and another man have been charged with conspiracy to poison
The men appeared in court as police confirmed wife is not the alleged victim
Police say they are still treating the case as a missing person investigation


... So they've tried to poison somebody else?? scratch


Mods - would it be possible to have all this on its own thread please....
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Post  Freedom Mon 22 May 2017, 3:36 pm

The poison charge relates to the missing woman, not another person.

The other defendant faces a similar charge to a woman with the same surname as himself - his wife presumably!
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Post  Andrew Mon 22 May 2017, 3:52 pm

I'm getting confused here. Snipped from the (updated DM) link:

He and another man, 45-year-old Robert Lipinski, are jointly charged with conspiracy to administer a noxious substance to Mrs Antczak and conspiracy to cause grievous bodily harm with intent to a Dariusz Kleinert

Lipinski is further charged with conspiracy to administer a noxious substance to Anna Lipinski.  


.... So if there's no sign of Renata Antczak, then how do the police know they tried to poison her?

And this Lipinski chap has tried to poison his wife as well along with another woman....

Looking like quite a complex and weird case this...  scratch

(thanks for sorting out the thread  flower )
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Post  Andrew Mon 22 May 2017, 4:44 pm

Can you clarify any of this latest @ Dee....
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Post  Mimi Mon 22 May 2017, 4:47 pm

I thought the husband sounded a bit dodgy when he said his wife had been interested in alternative therapy and possibly joined a sect - how stupid, but typical of someone who is totally medical model minded, or belonging to a strict religion. TimeWaver therapy looks pretty innocent from what I`ve googled. I see there was a conference in Poland on May 21st but that seems a bit late. The mother however has said she has found someone`s business card in their holiday home.

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Post  Andrew Mon 22 May 2017, 9:40 pm

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