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Post  candyfloss on Thu 09 Oct 2014, 1:46 pm

Sonia Poulton @SoniaPoulton  ·  28 secs 29 seconds ago
@JimGamble_INEQE 3. still waiting to see how you intend to respond to the obscene tweets to #sweepyface that I sent you from a real troll
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Post  hesla on Thu 09 Oct 2014, 8:37 pm

http://www.newindianexpress.com/world/Likeable-Sociable-and-Smart.-So-Why-a-Troll/2014/10/08/article2467728.ece
Another biased and quite intrusive article from The New Indian Express strange place for this to appear.
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Post  Andrew on Thu 09 Oct 2014, 9:52 pm

http://unterdenteppichgekehrt.blogspot.co.uk/2014/10/the-family.html?spref=tw

The Family

(should be a pic here but won't copy over)



This was Clarence Mitchell talking to the Press shortly after Martin Brunt had stalked and outed her on live TV, while the DailyMail shortly afterwards gave her real name away splitting the outing to avoid repercussion.

After her horrible and lonely death we find out via a radio interview of the Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Bernhard Hogan-Howe that it was the family who gave the Dossier to the Police, either to BHH himself as Martin Brunt claimed, or to Operation Grange, although a complaint to the local police of Leicestershire would have been the logic choice.


Interviewer: So tell me about that file that was handed to you re. at the McCanns, you know, concerned individuals and certainly that story has been in the headlines with tragic consequences...yesterday. A file handed to you? Are you looking at it at the minute?


BHH - no what happened, well first of all, you may have seen over the last 10 days we've launched a cyber crime unit, about 500 officers. Thats really intended to target people who steal things, not necessarily bullying , I think that's going to be a real challange to us in the future just in terms of volume.

But in terms of that file, what happened if you recall was that the family handed to our team who are investigating or reviewing the murder of... sorry errm reviewing the missing girl errm the McCann daughter. The file was handed to that team and we were liasing with Leicestershire police which is where the McCann family live..... and as suddenly it turned out possibly the person who was trolling or abusing people may well have been.

So the file was in the process of being considered partly by the Met, partly by Leicestershire police but it was likely to have been dealt with by Leicestershire police and not by the Met.
The question remains who gave the "dossier" to the media, but if one discounts the leaking of such uninteresting material by the Police then there remains only one possibility...

IMO this concerted campaign to shut up those on the internet that still after 7 years are very vocal in questioning the McCanns and their version of events started with the book by Summers & Swan, which prepared the way with their constant reference to "haters" of the parents combined with the claim of authority on the "definite account" of what happened in Praia da Luz in 2007.

The supporter group had been hording information on the "dissenters" for a long time and after Summers and Swan claimed that trolls and haters had led a campaign to discredit their book on amazon.co.uk with unjustified reviews, and when @sweepyface (Brenda Leyland) was linked to one of those negative reviews the way was clear. She, one of the more moderate dissenters, was to be the first EXAMPLE to be outed and presented to the world as a troll, soon to be followed by those that actually used veiled threats against the parents. Her "crime" was that she had written a review on Amazon and lived in Leicester.

Only that the whole campaign to finally shut up those questioning the McCanns failed not only to coincide with Scotland Yard giving up the case as impossible to solve, but also because the first victim of the campaign dared to kill herself. (Pending coroner's verdict)

And so Gerry now refuses to talk about "trolls"

Asked whether they felt it was right for the media to identify internet trolls, 46-year-old Mr McCann replied: ‘I don't really want to talk about trolls, we're here very much to talk about child rescue.’

Of course he is... And enjoying himself on a charity do, where he was sure to run into Hugh Grant and was able to discuss the advantages of sending in the Press when need be.

For those of you who want to  really want to get to the bottom of the news and want to decide for themselves if Brenda Leyland did anything that constituted an offence (either by racism or threats) , feel free to check yourself in her "tweet-file".
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Post  Andrew on Thu 09 Oct 2014, 10:11 pm

Another really good blog. Well worth reading.

http://frommybigdesk.blogspot.co.uk/2014/10/brenda-leyland-hounded-by-media-and.html
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Post  Andrew on Fri 10 Oct 2014, 8:38 am

http://gjhancock.com/2014/10/09/brenda-leyland-wasnt-a-troll-she-was-a-truth-seeker/


Brenda Leyland Wasn’t a Troll, She Was a Truth Seeker
Brenda Leyland on Sky News report on 2 October.
Brenda Leyland on Sky News report on 2 October.

Brenda Leyland, the 63-year old who was found dead in a hotel room days after being confronted on her doorstep by Sky News, will forever be known as “the woman who trolled the McCann’s” — a sad and unjust legacy as a vicious, hate-filled woman who harboured an unhealthy obsession with Kate and Gerry McCann and used Twitter to spew her contempt.

Brenda Leyland and internet troll are intrinsically linked, and that won’t change now that she’s dead, which is a shame, a real shame, because this well-spoken mother of two wasn’t actually a troll at all and to label her as such is to tarnish what she actually stood for: truth.

It’s easy to delete an account on Twitter, but’s not quite so easy to get rid of tweets and all 4,626 published under the handle @sweepyface have been archived and made available for public viewing.

In the tweets, most of which start with #mccann, @sweepyface describes the McCann’s as neglectful parents (much like Katie Hopkins has done), questioned media appearances and complained about them profiting from Madeleine’s disappearance. She’s also questioned stories in the press and tweeted Crimewatch and the Metropolitan Police about why they were not doing more.

You can read through the tweets yourself and make your own mind up, but is this really the sort of behaviour you’d expect of a hardcore troll? There are no death threats; there’s hardly even any profanity, and let’s not forget the McCann’s aren’t even on social media so why are they bothered — and who brought the tweets to their attention in the first place?

It’s not like Leyland was preaching to the masses, she had 182 followers. I’m sure there’s been far worse said by people with a lot more followers than that.

Would the content in the tweets offend some people? Probably. Would it aggravate others? Definitely – but only those that are McCann loyalists or have no real knowledge of the case.

To anyone that’s read up on the Madeleine McCann disappearance; anyone that’s followed the work of Gonçalo Amaral or questioned why the findings of world renown dog handler Martin Grime and his two sniffer dogs that had a 100% success rate in over 200 cases were dismissed by Gerry McCann as “unreliable”. To anyone who has ever found it strange that Kate McCann refused to answer 48 questions about the disappearance of her daughter, thus jeopardising the investigation. To all of you, Brenda Leyland was not a troll, or a conspiracy theorist as some newspapers have claimed; she was a truth seeker.

If this was any other case similar in nature, there is no way Sky News’ Martin Brunt (who was following a path from a BBC interview with Gerry McCann in which he said online trolls should be investigated and charged by police) would have turned up at the doorstep of Brenda Leyland. But, for whatever reason, with their friends in high places, the McCann’s are untouchable.

If Sky News, the BBC or any other mainstream media outlet had any real interest in proper journalism, they would be knocking at the door of the McCann home and putting to them some of the questions tweeted by Brenda Leyland.

The @sweepyface account was a quest for answers about what really happened to Madeleine McCann and Brenda Leyland should be commended for the passion and commitment shown in trying to uncover the truth.

For an in-depth look at the true story of Madeleine McCann, please take the time to visit http://www.madeleinedocumentary.com/ and watch the brilliant four part documentary by investigative journalist Richard D. Hall.
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Re: Brenda Leyland has died (Sweepyface) RIP Brenda

Post  Freedom on Sat 11 Oct 2014, 10:26 am

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/10/what-made-kate-gerry-mccann-object-of-so-much-anger?CMP=twt_gu

What hope is there of journalists being accurate in this case when the McCann twins are referred to as both boys!
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Post  Guest on Sat 11 Oct 2014, 2:15 pm

Freedom wrote:http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/10/what-made-kate-gerry-mccann-object-of-so-much-anger?CMP=twt_gu

What hope is there of journalists being accurate in this case when the McCann twins are referred to as both boys!

A clear indication that we here know far more about the case than the journalists writing about it.

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Post  Mimi on Fri 30 Jan 2015, 1:22 pm

A member here called myositis (or something like that) has referred to Brenda Leyland on another forum as "a lonely and troubled divorcee". Is this correct?
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Post  Freedom on Fri 30 Jan 2015, 1:25 pm

It's factually correct that she was divorced but, as for the rest, I don't think we'll know whether or not that was true until the inquest has concluded.
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Post  candyfloss on Sat 28 Feb 2015, 10:22 am

What is this all about- a helium overdose....

LaraS ‏@PoliticalTales  · 25 mins25 minutes ago  
Apparently #BrendaLeyland died of a helium overdose! #mccann @KRotcepsni @woolyback12 according to case listing at court






LaraS ‏@PoliticalTales  · 9 mins9 minutes ago  
@woolyback12 @KRotcepsni #mccann mind u it is daily star!!!


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Post  Freedom on Sat 28 Feb 2015, 10:28 am

Apparently that is not a particularly uncommon method of suicide - having been googling the subject - but rather bizarre nevertheless.

If it's true in this case remains to be seen.
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Post  Guest on Sat 28 Feb 2015, 10:30 am

Where did the star get access to court papers? and if the inquest hasn't happened yet how as death been determined?

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Post  Mimi on Sat 28 Feb 2015, 10:36 am

If Brenda carried this out only 2 days after Brunt`s attack, I would think she`d already researched the best way to commit suicide and also obtained the hood/chemicals some time before. But I could be wrong.
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Post  Mimi on Sat 28 Feb 2015, 10:40 am

caricature wrote:Where did the star get access to court papers? and if the inquest hasn't happened yet how as death been determined?

There is no conclusion recorded under Brenda`s case in the list of Court Hearings yet, so that cannot be true.

Maybe the info was obtained from someone else like a hotel worker or a policeperson.

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Name of Deceased:Date of Death: Date Inquest Open     Hearing Date  Type of Hearing        Conclusion

LEYLAND,
Brenda
Kathryn
Gabrielle         04/10/2014        08/10/2014                 20/03/2015               Final
                                                                                           (HMC Mrs C.E.Mason).
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Post  dogs don't lie on Sat 28 Feb 2015, 11:30 am

God, I've never even heard of that!?!

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Post  Guest on Sat 28 Feb 2015, 11:35 am

Mimi wrote:
Maybe the info was obtained from someone else like a hotel worker or a policeperson.

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Name of Deceased:Date of Death: Date Inquest Open     Hearing Date  Type of Hearing        Conclusion

LEYLAND,
Brenda
Kathryn
Gabrielle         04/10/2014        08/10/2014                 20/03/2015               Final
                                                                                           (HMC Mrs C.E.Mason).


If the cause was what the Star claims it would have been known at the outset surely,the pre inquest had death "not determined".

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Post  Freedom on Sat 28 Feb 2015, 11:38 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2105210/Ashley-Long-14-dies-horrific-accident-inhaling-helium-party.html

There have been accidents involving the misuse of helium too.

Not of course I'm saying that this applies to Brenda.
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Post  dogs don't lie on Sat 28 Feb 2015, 11:52 am

Freedom wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2105210/Ashley-Long-14-dies-horrific-accident-inhaling-helium-party.html

There have been accidents involving the misuse of helium too.

Not of course I'm saying that this applies to Brenda.

I'm shocked! My parents must have kept me bubble wrapped, they deserve an award lol!
If this did happen to Brenda, I'm surprised there's been no leaks on it, not believeing til proof though.

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Post  Mimi on Sat 28 Feb 2015, 12:10 pm

caricature wrote:
Mimi wrote:
Maybe the info was obtained from someone else like a hotel worker or a policeperson.

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Name of Deceased:Date of Death: Date Inquest Open     Hearing Date  Type of Hearing        Conclusion

LEYLAND,
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Kathryn
Gabrielle         04/10/2014        08/10/2014                 20/03/2015               Final
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If the cause was what the Star claims it would have been known at the outset surely,the pre inquest had death "not determined".

It probably wasn`t determined precisely at the pre-inquest even though it was suspected. They would have to go into how she got hold of it, look on her computer to see what sites she`d been on, whether she ordered the kit and when she ordered it, then they have to determine if she was helped and what her family and doctor know of her history - loads of things before they can come to a definite conclusion.

I reckon whoever found her in the hotel would have sussed it could have been that and you know how people gossip.
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Post  Mimi on Sat 28 Feb 2015, 12:16 pm

dogs don't lie wrote:
Freedom wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2105210/Ashley-Long-14-dies-horrific-accident-inhaling-helium-party.html

There have been accidents involving the misuse of helium too.

Not of course I'm saying that this applies to Brenda.

I'm shocked! My parents must have kept me bubble wrapped, they deserve an award lol!
If this did happen to Brenda, I'm surprised there's been no leaks on it, not believeing til proof though.

I`d never heard of it either - poor Brenda, what a distressed state she must have been in. Even if she was vulnerable and suffered from depression, what happened with Brunt must have really been the end for her. I must say I wouldn`t have survived such a wicked defamation.
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Post  Andrew on Sat 28 Feb 2015, 1:11 pm

Helium.... I don't believe that. Personally.
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Post  dogs don't lie on Sat 28 Feb 2015, 1:18 pm

Mimi wrote:
dogs don't lie wrote:
Freedom wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2105210/Ashley-Long-14-dies-horrific-accident-inhaling-helium-party.html

There have been accidents involving the misuse of helium too.

Not of course I'm saying that this applies to Brenda.

I'm shocked! My parents must have kept me bubble wrapped, they deserve an award lol!
If this did happen to Brenda, I'm surprised there's been no leaks on it, not believeing til proof though.

I`d never heard of it either - poor Brenda, what a distressed state she must have been in. Even if she was vulnerable and suffered from depression, what happened with Brunt must have really been the end for her.  I must say I wouldn`t have survived such a wicked defamation.

Poor poor lady, having MB in your face with camera crew, told police were investigating which was a lie, I have no idea what she went through, so sad Sad

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Post  Burst on Sat 28 Feb 2015, 1:33 pm

Strange, I feel, that such information would have gotten out while there is no answer as to what happened to poor Brenda Leyland. I tend not to believe it. Had to google it. Helium. Never heard of "Inert gas asphyxiation" before.
And now I can't get this saying out of my head, which could come across as a sarcastic joke, though is not meant as such, as I feel saddened to the bone: "Going out on a high note."
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