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Post  Freedom on Sun 24 Apr 2016, 5:46 pm



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Post  dogs don't lie on Sun 24 Apr 2016, 6:06 pm

I can't remember this but I was only 2yrs then, must see if mummy remembers anything. Interesting.

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Post  Andrew on Sun 24 Apr 2016, 7:01 pm

Never heard of this one either. It was mentioned on the McCann twitter hashtag this morn. Something in reference to it (Can't remember exactly what now).

Some more about it here:

http://www.newstalk.com/The-mysterious-disappearance-of-6yearold-Mary-Boyle
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Post  candyfloss on Sun 24 Apr 2016, 7:02 pm

It was something about the Guardian story being pulled.

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Re: The disappearance of Mary Boyle

Post  Andrew on Sun 24 Apr 2016, 7:10 pm

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Mary Boyle-Irelands youngest missing person

Post  Concerned resident on Wed 04 May 2016, 11:22 pm

I'd like to draw attention to this case which has some echoes of the Madeleine case eg extremely strange circumstances in which to go missing/ political intervention/ paedophiles being linked at random and a media blackout which seems to exist in Ireland until this very day.

Gemma o Doherty has made a documentary which no media organisation seems to want to show. She has launched this trailer which seems interesting and says the full doc is out in May. I'm not sure on what platform it will be shown.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LtN19gKGY1Y

Follow #maryboyle or Gemma o Doherty on Twitter.

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Post  Bampots on Thu 05 May 2016, 6:05 am

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/retired-cop-recalls-rumours-of-political-influence-in-missing-mary-boyle-probe-31599476.html

Retired cop recalls rumours of political influence in missing Mary Boyle probe
National crime unit may take on the case following new claims by her twin, writes Maeve Sheehan


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Heartache: Mary Boyle, who vanished in 1977. Her twin, Ann Doherty says she believes Mary is dead and claims to know who killed her2
Heartache: Mary Boyle, who vanished in 1977. Her twin, Ann Doherty says she believes Mary is dead and claims to know who killed her
Thirty eight years after Mary Boyle vanished on a Donegal bog, Ann Doherty has come out of the shadows to push the authorities for a new investigation into her twin sister's disappearance.


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Meeting TDs in Leinster House last week, she told them that she believed her sister was dead and that she knew the identity of the person who killed her. And she firmly believed that there was both political interference and a garda cover-up in the case, Sinn Fein's Mary Lou McDonald told the Dail last week, as Ann Doherty looked on from the public gallery. Ann was supported by her cousin Margo O'Donnell, country singer and sister of Daniel O'Donnell, who also claimed to have been told the name of the culprit. Both have given statements to gardai at Pearse Street garda station in Dublin, in the hope of prompting a fresh investigation.

Was there a cover-up in the country's longest-running unsolved missing person's case in Ireland? Was there political interference?

According to Aidan Murray, who was a detective sergeant when Mary disappeared, there was talk that a politician attempted to intervene, but never any evidence. "I only heard it in garda conferences but I could never prove that," he said. But the one person he believed should have been arrested never was.

Murray was at home on leave on Friday, March 18, 1977, when Mary was reported missing by her distraught parents. Six-year-old Mary had been at her grandparents' house in Cashelard, a remote and boggy townland outside Ballyshannon, where the extended family had lunch. Her uncle, Gerry Gallagher, was the last person to see her alive.

She disappeared after lunch. Mary, her twin Ann, her brother Patrick, and their cousins were playing outside. Her uncle was working outside and then walked across the fields to a neighbour's house to return a ladder. He said he was half-way across the field when he noticed Mary had followed him and he told her to go back. He continued on to the neighbour's house.

She never did get back. Her mother, Ann Boyle, went to check on the children and couldn't see her. At that stage, Mary's uncle was back working at the homestead. He went off to look for her but couldn't find her. Gardai, family and scores of neighbours scoured the 450-yard stretch of land between the only two houses in the area, in a search that escalated over the following weeks into a trawl of bog holes, lakes, streams and the countryside beyond. Not a trace of Mary was ever found. Lists of persons of interest were drawn up. All were interviewed voluntarily. Murray said he did question one individual who he thought should have been arrested. "He was never brought in as a suspect."

According to Murray, there was talk that a politician had put in a phone-call on behalf of this individual but nothing more than that. And without a body, detectives were hindered in the scope of the investigation and their enquiries.

Over the years, Murray accompanied Mary's mother on many trips to see so-called clairvoyants who claimed wrongly to know where she was. "She even went to Scotland, to the Scottish police, thinking that she would get help there. There was somebody who said she was taken over to Scotland through the North. The super said you arrange it with the police force over there and I arranged for somebody to meet her but that came to nothing," he said.

Sadistic paedophile Robert Black later became a suspect in Mary's disappearance after he was convicted of murdering three girls in 1996. He had been a long-distance truck driver whose work brought him across Ireland, North and South. Murray and his inspector travelled to interview Black, but he refused to meet the Irish officers. Murray believes there was "no way" that the paedophile killer was in that remote part of Ballyshannon that day.

The person whom Ann Doherty believes killed Mary has never been arrested. In fact, the arrest was of a convicted sex offender from Donegal last year. He was identified following a review of the case in 2011 and questioned in prison. No further action was followed.

In the book Missing and Unsolved by Barry Duggan, Ann Boyle said the loss of Mary had a devastating effect on the family, but especially on her twin. "She (Ann) didn't seem focused. She wouldn't talk. Mary wasn't talked about for a long time." With the support of her cousin Margo, Ann Doherty started pushing hard for a fresh investigation in recent years. Margo told the Sunday Independent this weekend she could not talk about the case at this stage.

A senior garda source said their concerns, including those relating to political interference, were being taken seriously. A report is being prepared and it is expected that the National Bureau of Criminal Investigations may take over a fresh probe of Mary's disappearance.

Murray said: "I always prayed that it would be solved before I retired; now I pray that it's before I die."

A Garda spokesman said there have been two reviews of Mary Boyle's disappearance, the latest has conducted a significant investigation, interviewed a wide range of people and carried out searches. Gardai are also liaising with Mary's mother, Ann.

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Re: The disappearance of Mary Boyle

Post  Freedom on Thu 05 May 2016, 7:11 am

Hello and welcome, Concerned Resident.

The Boyle case has been mentioned recently so I've transferred your post and that of Bampots here. I look forward to seeing the documentary.
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Re: The disappearance of Mary Boyle

Post  Andrew on Sat 11 Jun 2016, 3:19 pm

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/states-first-reaction-sweep-dirt-8163111

Our State's first reaction is to sweep the dirt under the carpet...if the scandal keeps growing, they just order a bigger carpet

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BY PAT FLANAGAN
"It would appear there are elements here who are determined to prevent what really happened to little Mary Boyle being made public"



Donegal schoolgirl Mary Boyle who disappeared without trace in March 1977.

Why is there a marked reluctance on behalf of the establishment to find out what happened to Mary Boyle, the little girl described as Ireland’s Maddie McCann ?

Somewhere in the fields near Ballyshannon, Co Donegal , lies the body of a murdered six-year old child which, if found, could bring closure for her family and disaster for the establishment.

Although Mary’s body was never found her twin sister Ann Doherty and campaigning journalist Gemma O’Doherty are demanding an inquest.

They take hope from the inquest jury across the water which found the 96 Liverpool fans who died at Hillsborough in 1989 had been unlawfully killed.

Despite unseen forces, and a certain newspaper, doing their utmost to keep the truth hidden, the Hillsborough victims and their families may at last get justice.

It would appear there are elements here who are just as determined to prevent what really happened to little Mary being made public.

Mary vanished without trace while visiting her grandparents in Ballyshannon, on March 18, 1977, and she is Ireland’s longest-running missing-child case.

There have been comparisons made to Maddie’s disappearance but there is one major difference – Maddie went missing in a foreign country but Mary vanished within sight of her grandparents' home.

Jason McGarrigleMary's mother Ann Boyle holding photos of her late husband Charlie and Mary with her siblings
She had been playing outside when she followed her uncle across the fields near the house, but for some reason turned back and was never seen again.

Journalist Gemma O’Doherty is convinced there was political interference in the original investigation into the
disappearance and wants answers.

Mary’s twin Ann has claimed the family know who killed Mary and the child knew him and that he is still alive.

There are also grave allegations that investigators were warned not to further investigate the chief suspect.

Despite many meetings with politicians both Ann Doherty and Gemma O’Doherty feel they have been fobbed off and are no nearer to the truth.

“You wonder what you have to do to get justice in this country”, Mary’s twin said. She may well ask.

Although 39 years have passed there are many who believe that the mystery surrounding Mary’s disappearance could be solved if the wall of silence could be penetrated.

The scandal of the Hillsborough cover shows the lengths the establishment will go to hide the a terrible truth,
especially if it exposes the system it sought to protect to be rotten to the core.

When the still-imprisoned Birmingham Six took a civil action against West Midlands Police in 1980 Britain’s best-known judge, Lord Denning declared their claim that police officers had lied and beaten confessions out of them would have opened up “an appalling vista”.

Indeed it did, and showed the British justice system to be even more warped and twisted as bent Lord Justice Denning himself. Had the terrible truth come out at the time the Birmingham Six would have been released 11 years earlier and the West Midlands Police force would most likely have been restructured.

And the families of the Liverpool fans who died at Hillsborough might not have been denied justice for 27 years.

Unlike the British, the cover-ups on this side of the Irish Sea go on for ever and where the very notion of accountability, never mind anyone being brought to justice, is anathema to the Irish
establishment.

The establishment’s first reaction is to sweep the dirt under carpet and if the scandal keeps growing, instead of addressing it, they just order a bigger carpet.

It’s always a case of tribunals for the well-connected who stand accused of crimes involving millions or even billions while it’s the courts for those who don’t pay their TV licence.

You don’t have to be Sherlock Holmes to know why they’re afraid of Moriarty.

The Morris Tribunal not only exposed garda wrongdoing on an industrial scale, it showed that elements within the force were capable of framing innocent
individuals and planting evidence to incriminate them.

Funny how there was no evidence of little Mary’s murder yet they could find evidence for crimes in Donegal which were never committed. Only in Ireland.
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Re: The disappearance of Mary Boyle

Post  candyfloss on Mon 04 Jul 2016, 1:12 pm

On tonight....


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[b]#MaryBoyle - The Untold Story
Tonight 9:20
Police corruption, political interference and a 39 year coverup.

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Post  candyfloss on Mon 04 Jul 2016, 1:14 pm

Photo published for Trailer for 'Mary Boyle - The Untold Story'



Trailer for 'Mary Boyle - The Untold Story'

A documentary written and directed by Gemma O'Doherty about the case of Ireland's youngest missing person, who disappeared on her grandparents' farm in...



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Post  dogs don't lie on Mon 04 Jul 2016, 1:25 pm

Gawd, my mummy always made sure I never heard any bad stuff, she's damn good at it! Never heard of these children so I'll be watching tonight (after BB). Even growing up amongst the troubles, I wouldn't have a clue what it's all about now and don't even wanna know.

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Post  Andrew on Mon 04 Jul 2016, 9:53 pm

Not long got back home, but what channel is this on at 21:20 as can't see anything... unless it was a short one and missed it...
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Post  Freedom on Mon 04 Jul 2016, 10:11 pm

I presume it's on an Irish TV channel.

It's on YouTube already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vGORoCbpXw
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Post  Andrew on Mon 04 Jul 2016, 10:20 pm

Ok - cheers.

Will watch it soon.
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Post  Freedom on Tue 05 Jul 2016, 9:58 am

I have watched the programme and don't really know what to think.

Gut reaction as in most cases - the relative who claimed to have seen her last is the obvious suspect.

The family doesn't sound the sort to have had friends in high places who would have covered up the truth, if you know what I mean - so why he was never regarded in that way (prime suspect) I have no idea.
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Post  Andrew on Wed 13 Jul 2016, 9:46 am

Was reading a similar article about how a new investigation has been announced.

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/A-fresh-investigation-in-Mary-Boyles-murder-is-announced.html

I never got round to watching the you tube doc in the end.
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Post  candyfloss on Wed 13 Jul 2016, 9:47 am




From the solicitors....



Darragh Mackin ‏@darraghmackin · 30m30 minutes ago

We will respond in full later today to the recent media publications re #MaryBoyle inc the cold case review & the removal of the Documentary


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Post  chrissie on Wed 13 Jul 2016, 10:42 am

Andrew wrote:Was reading a similar article about how a new investigation has been announced.

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/A-fresh-investigation-in-Mary-Boyles-murder-is-announced.html

I never got round to watching the you tube doc in the end.

It is still available in the UK Andrew. I just typed it into You Tube
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Post  unreorganised on Wed 13 Jul 2016, 11:00 am

Thanks for that. I hadn't previously seen it so just snaffled a copy to watch at my leisure before it disappears.
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Post  Andrew on Wed 13 Jul 2016, 11:08 am

Yeah, cheers.

I stupidly believed what I read in the above papers and it had been whooshed. Didn't even check You Tube myself.
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Post  candyfloss on Wed 13 Jul 2016, 11:20 am

It was taken down but back up:


Mark Wall ‏@majwal7  · 33m33 minutes ago  

‘MARY BOYLE’ DOCUMENTARY BACK ON YOUTUBE AFTER LEGAL THREAT | Donegal Daily http://www.donegaldaily.com/2016/07/13/mary-boyle-documentary-back-on-youtube-after-legal-threat/ … ... #MaryBoyle

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Post  unreorganised on Thu 14 Jul 2016, 8:23 am

Andrew wrote:Was reading a similar article about how a new investigation has been announced.

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/A-fresh-investigation-in-Mary-Boyles-murder-is-announced.html

I never got round to watching the you tube doc in the end.

Watched the first twenty minutes or so.

What is it with missing children and people dying in tractor accidents?
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Post  unreorganised on Thu 14 Jul 2016, 11:41 am

I have now watched the whole thing. I would urge anybody with an interest in Madeleine McCann to seek out a copy for themselves - it is extremely pertinent.
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