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Post  Heisenburg on Sat 18 May 2019, 11:13 am

dogs don't lie wrote:13 key suspects police investigating Maddie McCann are still trying to find

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-13-suspects-still-15013030#ICID=Android_TMNewsApp_AppShare



Mixed up the Smith and Tanner sightings Rolling Eyes

British journalism at its best worst.
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Post  candyfloss on Sat 25 May 2019, 9:38 pm

Doh Rolling Eyes


Madeleine McCann 'wandered off before disappearance’ – top Brit detective on theory




MADELEINE McCann could have wandered off before coming to harm on the night of her disappearance, a top detective has argued.


by Tom Towers Published 25th May 2019


https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/780749/madeleine-mccain-2019-disappearance-news-missing-parents-wandered-off-theory



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Post  Freedom on Sat 25 May 2019, 9:58 pm

That is actually a believable scenario if this was a genuine case of a child left unattended.

Surely this is as usual a regurgitated load of old guff?
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Post  poster on Sun 26 May 2019, 10:13 am

Heisenburg wrote:
dogs don't lie wrote:13 key suspects police investigating Maddie McCann are still trying to find

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-13-suspects-still-15013030#ICID=Android_TMNewsApp_AppShare



Mixed up the Smith and Tanner sightings Rolling Eyes

British journalism at its best worst.

Smithman was shown as Tannerman and 'Ocean Club' man became Smithman? confused

At the time that the Smithman e-fit was made public, police said that many people came forward. I think it's likely that Smithman or a man resembling him was seen by others - perhaps at Ocean Club. Timings would be interesting here.

Under the 'Ocean Club' man photo is written: "Following extensive police work and cross referencing of witness reports, one man was sought as a priority.

The man was described by the two witnesses as being inside the Ocean Club complex in Praia da Luz area on the evening that Madeleine went missing from the apartment."


Seeing as we KNOW that Tannerman is not the man described by the Smiths, despite the picture shown in the above story, then are we to believe that Smithman was not only seen by the Smiths scurrying towards the beach carrying a child at around 10pm but was also seen by witnesses inside the Ocean Club complex on the evening Madeleine went missing?

I would say that's quite a bigge, although not in the least unexpected. Logically, Smithman would most likely have been seen by other people apart from the Smiths and Ocean Club would be as logical a place as any what with being a family-friendly resort with a night creche.

ETA: The Smithman e-fit was not realeased until 2013 I think it was. That's a hell of a long time after the event but I do believe it was reported by the police that there was a huge response. When you factor in the cross referencing of witness reports as stated above, then I think is really important. It is an admission that the man the Smiths saw was also seen by witnesses at Ocean Club on the evening Madeleine went missing.


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Post  poster on Sun 26 May 2019, 10:31 am

candyfloss wrote:Doh Rolling Eyes

Madeleine McCann 'wandered off before disappearance’ – top Brit detective on theory

MADELEINE McCann could have wandered off before coming to harm on the night of her disappearance, a top detective has argued.

by Tom Towers   Published 25th May 2019

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/780749/madeleine-mccain-2019-disappearance-news-missing-parents-wandered-off-theory


Can anything intelligent happen when Jim Gamble opens his mouth?

Where is the reporting of all these sex attacks and how do they know it is the work of one suspect?

One suspect is feared to have carried out up to 28 sex attacks on other children within a 40-mile radius of the apartment from which then-three-year-old Madeleine went missing.

Wearing a surgical mask, he got into bed with a seven-year-old British girl but fled when she woke up and asked: “Is that you daddy?’’

Another was chased from a holiday apartment after a horrified mum caught him standing over her young daughter.
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Post  Freedom on Sun 26 May 2019, 11:08 am

The report of all these sex attacks in the area is very old - it hasn't just surfaced via Jim Gamble.
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Post  poster on Sun 26 May 2019, 11:54 am

Freedom wrote:The report of all these sex attacks in the area is very old - it hasn't just surfaced via Jim Gamble.

Yes, agreed. Kate even writes about them in her book. It appears to be part of a script in which the Algarve was some kind of lawless paedophile haven. On page 89 of her book Kate writes that she recalls Bill Henderson (then British consul for the Algarve) telling her that there had been several recent cases of men getting into bed with children, but no known abductions. "I'm not sure why this didn't ring a million alarm bells or sicken me to the core," Kate writes.

On page 295, when Kate was campaigning for a European sex register, she writes how she got in contact with the then retired British consul. She states that he told her that he used to have regular monthly meetings with British tour operators along the coast in Albufeira, at which crime was one of the topics covered. At a meeting in August 2006 he had been informed by tour operators of a spate of incidents that Kate had heard about from him the day after Madeleine was taken.

Kate writes that she pressed for information, and was told that it was thought that an immigrant construction worker had been arrested and released pending trial, which was likely to take place some years down the line. "Unbelievable," writes Kate.

Where is the evidence for all this? What happened to the 'immigrant construction worker' who was arrested?  Does he join the long list of dubious suspects who often seem to be ugly, pimply, foreign, swarthy or even dead?

Can one shred of evidence be produced for all these alleged attacks on child holiday-makers in the Algarve? As far as I can see, there is no sign that Madeleine's alleged abduction was a part of a 'spate of incidences' at all?  It appears to have been a 'one off' and there is no evidence to support the parents' theory as to what happened.
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Post  Freedom on Tue 11 Jun 2019, 10:36 am

This is also on the Operation Grange funding topic.

Same old, same old whingeing and playing the victim card. I don't condone anything abusive or threatening but usually this just means people who question the official yarn.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9262826/madeleine-mccann-parents-hate-mail/
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Post  Gloria-Trubshawe on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 9:32 pm

Freedom wrote:This is also on the Operation Grange funding topic.

Same old, same old whingeing and playing the victim card. I don't condone anything abusive or threatening but usually this just means people who question the official yarn.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9262826/madeleine-mccann-parents-hate-mail/

That same story was in The Mirror ( I think) and they left the comments on. There was about 30, highly critical of the parents and just one as far as I could see supporting them. Most said either they should be charged for neglect and/or they had something to do with it and should come clean.

I saw the mention of the papers recycling the 'mask man' attacks before. It is all highly dubious. The attacks that the papers say were uncovered by Scotland yard a few years ago? The papers give the impression the attacks were hidden in some way or only discovered when SY got involved. It could just be that they were on file and for a number of reasons they didn't think they were that serious or at all linked to the McCann case, doesn't stop the barstewards using them to promote the 'idiot foreign police' angle though!
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Post  poster on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 11:09 pm

I do believe that the 'spate of attacks on children in the Algarve staying with UK holiday companies' was entirely fabricated in order to lend credence to the idea that the Algarve was some kind of lawless hinterland with paedophiles roaming around taking advantage of British and other European children on holiday with their parents. To my knowledge, there is not one single report of the type of attack that Kate wrote about in her book. The attacks were apparently outlined to her by the then British consul to the Algarve. I strongly suspect that the McCanns got themselves (and indeed Madeleine) in a very tricky situation indeed and in order to pave the way for the random mystery paedophile attacker, it was necessary to 'set the scene' so to speak. By giving the impression that Madeleine's disappearance was part of a pattern, it lent more credence to their story, imo.  Unfortunately, not one shred of evidence exists, as far as I am aware, that there had been a spate of attacks on children staying in the Algarve on package holidays with their parents.

It appears that everyone is sick to the teeth of the whingeing of the McCanns and their playing of the victim card has become more than tiresome.
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Post  Freedom on Thu 13 Jun 2019, 7:37 am

My thoughts exactly, poster.
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Post  Heisenburg on Sat 15 Jun 2019, 1:45 pm

Top cop? who tagged him with that,when did this fella lead an investigation,hint its gamble
Madeleine McCann cops 'bungled investigation from the start' claims top Brit detective


A BRITISH detective who led the UK investigation to find Madeleine McCann has accused Portuguese cops of bungling the initial investigation.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/785531/madeleine-mccann-2019-police-probe-rushed-disappearance-missing-news-parents-latest


In other words Grange aren't telling any one diddly squat.


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Post  candyfloss on Sat 15 Jun 2019, 1:45 pm

We are getting a total pile of poo being churned out lately.




PAT BROWN 🇺🇸‏ @ProfilerPatB · 32m32 minutes ago
Why is this crap constantly being published? #mccann

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/785531/madeleine-mccann-2019-police-probe-rushed-disappearance-missing-news-parents-latest



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Post  dogs don't lie on Sat 22 Jun 2019, 9:36 am


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Post  Freedom on Sat 22 Jun 2019, 9:55 am

A "foreign man" - that narrows it down, he'll be found any time now!
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Post  Heisenburg on Sat 22 Jun 2019, 10:01 am

Freedom wrote:A "foreign man" - that narrows it down, he'll be found any time now!

Brits were foreign were they not.Smithman is the key always as been.
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Post  candyfloss on Sat 22 Jun 2019, 12:11 pm

dogs don't lie wrote:Portugal police 'closing in on number one suspect' in Madeleine McCann case

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-police-closing-number-16683616#ICID=Android_TMNewsApp_AppShare

Thanks ddl, here is the same story in the Daily Mail.....

I won't hold my breath. Rolling Eyes


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7169101/Police-closer-solving-Madeleine-McCann-case-officers-identify-prime-suspect.html

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