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Post  Freedom on Thu 14 Mar 2019, 12:34 pm

Yes, that will be something to look forward to.
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Post  candyfloss on Thu 14 Mar 2019, 1:36 pm

Mike Spudgun‏ @spudgun01 · 49m49 minutes ago


The biggest mystery in the Madeleine McCann case is NOT what happened to the little girl.

The mystery is WHY the Establishment & it's servile media are hell bent on persisting she was abducted.


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Post  Crackfox on Thu 14 Mar 2019, 2:30 pm

Hey everyone - just wanted to say something positive about NetFlix! True Crime is their speciality and they do it very well, it's always nuanced, provocative and controversial. I think this will be very different to anything we've seen on MM and I expect it will be very damaging for the McCanns who are used to controlling the narrative and a lack of scrutiny on UK soil. This is global - and potentially explosive.
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Post  Freedom on Thu 14 Mar 2019, 2:31 pm

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Post  froggy on Thu 14 Mar 2019, 2:52 pm

It says Season 1

Just how long are they going to drag this out for ? affraid
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Post  Gloria-Trubshawe on Thu 14 Mar 2019, 3:26 pm


That does sound one sided but is it possible they are describing it like that for fear of legal action before anyone even views it? After all, they have interviewed people from the PJ and Amaral.

It might be a bit like the recent drama 'The Cry' where the author said 'nothing to do with McCanns' but virtually every bit of plot
was based on the case.

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Post  candyfloss on Thu 14 Mar 2019, 5:00 pm

Nice to see you back Crackfox and Gloria. It's seems to be getting like the old days with good and bad stories doing the rounds, one trying to contradict the other. But we all know now that everytime something like the Mark S of 9News podcast is aired we get a flurry of activity. Things are definitely hotting up again it would seem.

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Post  candyfloss on Thu 14 Mar 2019, 5:09 pm

Definitely hotting up


Who are the Tapas 7? McCanns' friends who refused to be in Madeleine McCann Netflix documentary

Much has been made of the evidence given by the so-called Tapas 7 on the night Madeleine McCann went missing - but who are they?

The Tapas 7 became an integral part of the Madeleine McCann investigation after she went missing from her family's holiday apartment on May 3 2007.

Kate and Gerry McCann's seven friends - three couples and the mother of one of the mums - joined the McCanns in Portugal's Praia da Luz for a joint holiday and the nine adults (along with their eight children) spent time together during their vacation.




The group of adults were dubbed the Tapas 7 as they were dining with Gerry and Kate at the hotel complex's tapas restaurant on the night Madeleine went missing.

Each of them willingly co-operated with the Portuguese and British police investigation and none were ever made 'arguido' - persons of interest - in the enquiries.


Now, a new eight-part Netflix documentary called The Disappearance Of Madeleine McCann is set to shed light on the circumstances leading up to her going missing.

Neither Kate and Gerry nor any of the friends who were with them that night have taken part in the docu-series, which features interviews with police, friends and people involved in the investigation.


So just who are the Tapas 7? Here's a look inside the McCanns' circle of friends.


Jane Tanner - married to Russell O'Brien



Jane Tanner gave what police believed was crucial evidence that was later disregarded (Image: PA)


Mum of two Jane provided what was believed to be crucial evidence by saying she saw a man carry a child from the McCann's apartment at 9.15pm - 45 minutes before Kate raised the alarm.

She'd passed Gerry McCann speaking to another holidaymaker on his way back to the restaurant from his 9.05pm check on the McCann children, but both men later said they couldn't recall seeing Jane in the street.

Jane claimed to have seen a child in floral patterned pyjama bottoms being carried in the arms of a white, dark-haired man who did not look like a tourist.


An artist's impression of the man Jane Tanner had seen carrying a child (Image: PA)

Her testimony - known as the Tanner Sighting - was later disregarded when a British man stepped forward to say it was him carrying his daughter from the night creche - her PJs matched the ones Jane had described to the police.

Dr Russell O'Brien - married to Jane Tanner




Russell was away from the group between 9.30pm and 10.15pm while he tended his ill daughter, Evie.

Evie had been vomiting that night, so Russell and Jane took it in turns to eat their meal quickly before relieving each other in the apartment.

Russell had come back to the restaurant table to eat his steak when Kate came running in screaming to Gerry that Madeleine had gone.

He, along with Fiona Payne and Rachael Oldfield, told police that he'd seen British-Portuguese property consultant Robert Murat outside apartment 5A shortly after Madeleine's disappearance.

Murat was made the investigation's first arguido after Portuguese police heard he'd been asking a lot of questions about the case.

But his arguido status was lifted the following year after detectives found nothing linking Murat to the investigation.

Dr Matthew Oldfield - married to Rachael Oldfield

Matthew said he checked on the McCann children at 9.30pm but did not actually see Madeleine as he was standing outside the children's bedroom door - her bed couldn't be seen without looking around the door.

He told Portuguese police that he glimpsed the twins asleep in their cots and left the McCann's apartment, having heard no sound from the children.

He returned to the tapas restaurant and let the group know all of the children were asleep. Moments later, Gerry McCann got up to check on his three kids.

Rachael Oldfield - married to Matthew Oldfield





Kate and Gerry McCann have never given up searching for their daughter (Image: Daily Mirror)

Mum-of-one Rachael was the one who told Jane Tanner that Madeleine had disappeared.

The recruitment consultant told police she saw Robert Murat outside apartment 5A.

But Murat told police he was at home with his mum at the time.



Dr David Payne - married to Dr Fiona Payne

David was the last one other than the McCanns to see Madeleine alive.

The Leicester University scientist checked on her, Kate and the twins while Gerry played tennis at 6.30pm.

His impression was of "a family who'd had such a fantastic time", adding that the three young children were dressed in their pyjamas and "looked immaculate...just like angels, they all looked so happy and well looked after and content".

David told British police in 2008 that Kate had first told the group, "she's gone" when she came back to the restaurant from checking on her three children.

Kate later said, "they've taken her, they've taken her", according to David's testimony.

Dr Fiona Payne - married to Dr David Payne


Kate and Gerry maintain hope their daughter will be found alive (Image: X00802)

The mum of two and wife of David also told police she saw Murat.

The couple brought their own high-spec baby monitor from home and set it up at the tapas restaurant so they could keep an ear out for their children waking up.

When Kate came back to the restaurant to raise the alarm, Fiona told British police that most of the adults immediately left their table to search for Madeleine.

When she returned to the McCanns' apartment five minutes later, she said both of the twins were still asleep and Kate and Gerry were beside themselves.

"[Kate] was hysterical, it upsets me very much to even think about how she was," Fiona said in a 2008 police interview.

"She was so terrified, absolutely inconsolable, she was rampaging round...the room, she's up and down, pacing, kicking walls, just on, for most part, just imagining where or what might be happening to Madeleine and angry at herself and then for having left her, not being there and just, she was shouting a lot, I can't, 'We've, we've let her down Gerry, we've let her down, we weren't there for her'.

"The pain that was causing her that she hadn't been there, was just very raw anger at...the system that nobody was seemed to be arriving and you know, what was being done and the feeling of just nothing, nothing being done, the helplessness and that, that raw, raw emotion of just grief, of just terror and just praying, she was praying, she kept kneeling everywhere just praying and praying and praying and asking for a priest and just wanted you know, everybody to be praying for Madeleine for her to be safe."

Dianne Webster - mother of Fiona Payne and grandmother of Lily and Scarlet

Kate was distraught, hitting the walls and screaming inside their apartment after raising the alarm (Image: PA)

She told British police that she suspected the twins - Sean and Amelie McCann - had been drugged, as they were still asleep in their cot after Kate raised the alarm.

Speaking in a police interview in 2008, Dianne said Gerry was "absolutely distraught" when everyone arrived in the McCann's apartment.

"I've never heard a man make the noises he made, and Kate, Kate was just...you just can't put into words how they were," she said in transcripts of the interview.

"I remember I went through into the room where...Madeleine was sleeping and err and she said 'she’s been taken' because she said that the shutters and that had been open, the window open.

"The twins were still asleep in the cot and I, with all the noise going on I don’t know how they slept through it which makes me think there was, they must have been drugged with something."

Both Kate and Gerry seemed utterly distraught, their friends said (Image: Julian Hamilton/Daily Mirror)

Dianne said Madeleine's bed cover was "neatly turned back", adding that the position of her bed meant looking around the door of the bedroom to see it.

Dianne returned to her apartment to look after her grandchildren and said she recalled seeing Kate "screaming, banging, hitting things " and shouting "we've let her down".

The twins were later brought up to Dianne's apartment to be looked after - and once again, the grandmother said she was surprised that they were still fast asleep.

"They were taken from their cots when they were brought up to our apartment and they would have to come out into the cold and I would have...expected some sort of awakening," she told police.

Dianne added that she'd never seen the McCanns give their children any medication, and speculated that all three of the kids could have been drugged by the abductor.

Her feeling, she continued, was that the man carrying the child outside the hotel complex - known as the Tanner Sighting - was of a man carrying a drugged and limp Madeleine away.

But the sighting was later discredited by the British holidaymaker who said he'd been collecting his sleepy daughter from creche.


https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/who-tapas-7-mccanns-friends-14135573

pictures of tapas 7 on link (didnt come out in this copy and paste)

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Post  Crackfox on Thu 14 Mar 2019, 7:11 pm

candyfloss wrote:Nice to see you back Crackfox and Gloria.  It's seems to be getting like the old days with good and bad stories doing the rounds, one trying to contradict the other.  But we all know now that everytime something like the Mark S of 9News  podcast is aired we get a flurry of activity.  Things are definitely hotting up again it would seem.

Thank you candyfloss, I hope you are keeping well and appreciate the fact that people here keep the candle burning for Madeleine, rain or shine. I hope there is at least some new evidence in this series even if it is buried in more if the same old dross. The Sun is showing a new photograph, supposedly of Madeleine, playing with a parachute as part of the crèche activity. Things like this could be revealing.
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Post  niklasericson on Thu 14 Mar 2019, 8:08 pm

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What?

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Post  Heisenburg on Thu 14 Mar 2019, 8:31 pm

froggy wrote:  It says Season 1

Just how long are they going to drag this out for ? affraid


Thre's 12 yrs to catch up on.
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Post  Heisenburg on Thu 14 Mar 2019, 8:33 pm

niklasericson wrote:Netflix documentary: The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann  - Page 3 Scree112

What?


Photo from Edmonds?
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Post  niklasericson on Thu 14 Mar 2019, 8:45 pm

That was my first thought but didn't Edmonds says he took a photo of his boys with Madeleine in the background?

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Post  froggy on Thu 14 Mar 2019, 8:58 pm

Which one is she supposed to be? The photo is so poor they could all be anybody
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Post  niklasericson on Thu 14 Mar 2019, 9:03 pm

froggy wrote:Which one is she supposed to be? The photo is so poor they could all be anybody
Yes, it's impossible to idenify her but the article claims it's the girl with the pink dress.


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Post  Freedom on Thu 14 Mar 2019, 9:05 pm

Ridiculous - it could be anyone.
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Post  niklasericson on Thu 14 Mar 2019, 9:11 pm


Is the adult in the photo a male or a female?

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Post  unreorganised on Thu 14 Mar 2019, 10:07 pm

New photograph, never seen before, may show the Durham Puma.

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Post  candyfloss on Fri 15 Mar 2019, 8:54 am


Eight episodes:
1. The Beneath Truth
2. Person of Interest
3. Pact of Silence
4. Heaven and Earth
5. The Fightback
6. Dark Places
7. Truth and Lies
8. Somebody Knows



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Post  candyfloss on Fri 15 Mar 2019, 8:58 am

Some have watched first episode, bit of feedback coming in...



Ollie Owl #GTTO #JC4PM2019‏ @OllieOwl17 · 17m17 minutes ago  


 

Just stated to watch the @Netflix Madeleine documentary, half hour in and already you can see the #McCann’s agenda being followed when Tannerman is still being mentioned!







 







P_R #FBPE

Episode 1 narrators + interviewees:
Summers & Swann
Jayne Jensen (holidaymaker)
Neil Berry (holidaymaker)
David Jones (reporter/ex-pat)
Gonçalo Amaral
Jon Clarke (freelance journalist)
Sandra Felgueiras
Maria Laurinda Jones (local resident)
#McCann




Barry Sadler (local property developer)
(60s Algarve holidays promo feat. Cliff Mitchelmore)
More SF, GA
Rui Gustavo (Espresso Journalist)
GA on hashish smuggling, drug gangs
Robert Murat
More Jon Clarke, GA
Robbyn Swann on JT sighting
Anthony Summers
GA
Trish Cameron
#McCann


Eileen #McCann  
Maria Laurinda Jones
Jon Clarke ("all our friends would do that")wandering off, dangerous trench nearby)
Barry Sadler (nearby wells)
RM
John Hill
Julio Barroso (local mayor)
Ernie Allen (NCMEC) talking about US child abduction cases


Robert Hall (senior BBC news correspondent)
SF
John Buck (ambassador to Portugal)
Jon Clarke
Robert Hall
the press conference
SF
Jon Clarke
SF
ends with audio news report local man being made suspect. #McCann

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Post  espeland on Fri 15 Mar 2019, 9:21 am

A very wide range of people included in the first episode, including unfortunately Summers & Swan - that put me right off for some minutes. Impossible to tell how the series will develop, but my thoughts when the next episode was shown as starting in 'x' seconds was to get out of Netflix as quickly as possible - too much information already.
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Post  unreorganised on Fri 15 Mar 2019, 10:30 am

I haven't watched it yet, maybe tonight.

What worries me most is that the whole thing becomes abstract, a topic for dinner party conversation or internet musing. It mustn't be forgotten that a three year old child is likely dead.


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Post  chrissie on Fri 15 Mar 2019, 10:34 am

Clarrie is going to be talking on This Morning at 10.50am
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Post  unreorganised on Fri 15 Mar 2019, 10:37 am

chrissie wrote:Clarrie is going to be talking on This Morning at 10.50am

Yeah? I'm not going to be listening at around the same time.
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Post  chrissie on Fri 15 Mar 2019, 10:46 am

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chrissie wrote:Clarrie is going to be talking on This Morning at 10.50am

Yeah? I'm not going to be listening at around the same time.

Only posted it for people who may want to watch.
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