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Post  unreorganised on Wed 04 Apr 2018, 9:58 am

Freedom wrote:I'm trying to think of a reason why this lad's photo appeared in an article about the McCann case!

Subtle way of breaking the news that Maddie was actually a boy?
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Post  unreorganised on Wed 04 Apr 2018, 10:00 am

Heisenburg wrote:A reply which was to be expected,it'll soon be the 11th anniversary.

STOP BEING ARMCHAIR COPS' Madeleine McCann’s parents Kate and Gerry hit back at critics of new Met Police cash to track down missing girl

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5962857/madeleine-mccanns-parents-kate-and-gerry-hit-back-at-critics-of-new-met-police-cash-to-track-down-missing-girl/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Cunning plan - get the parents to say one thing in order to get the remainder of the country demanding the opposite?

I do have a degree in reverse psychology.
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Post  dogs don't lie on Wed 04 Apr 2018, 11:59 am

Shocked how can they hit back at the parents of other missing children! Critics, fine but parents Shocked

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Post  Poe on Wed 04 Apr 2018, 12:42 pm

They can't ever get it right can they?

If your child goes missing you do everything possible and ask for anything that might help find him or her but The McCanns don't think Madeleine should be prioritised and they didn't ask for extra funding. It's a very passive, don't blame us blame the police and government, response that you wouldn't expect from the parents.

I notice that the sum allocated to the investigation is undisclosed but thought to be £150,000. There must be a reason the actual figure hasn't been confirmed. The £150,000 is taken from previous allocations but this time it could be a nominal amount just to keep the investigation open.

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Post  Heisenburg on Wed 04 Apr 2018, 1:07 pm

The Mail are a little more circumspect with the figures.

It is thought the Metropolitan Police will receive about £150,000 to continue Operation Grange.
Sources close to the operation said in October that officers were hunting a 'person of significance'.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5576675/Kate-Gerry-McCann-hit-critics-inquiry.html#ixzz5BhkebNyk


With the chain of command established with the FOI reply,its not hard to nail down the source's.

1 Please state the name and rank of the current Investigation Co-Ordinator/Senior Investigation Officer

ANSWER: The Senior Investigating office is Detective Chief Inspector (DCI) Nicola Wall

2 Please name all the officers in the reporting line from the S.I.O. up to the Metropolitan Commissioner, and give their current
rank

ANSWER: DCI Wall reports to Commander Stuart Cundy. Mr Cundy reports to Assistant Commissioner Martin Hewitt. Mr Hewitt reports to Commissioner Cressida Dick.

3 Please state the total number of staff currently employed by Operation Grange and give their ranks

ANSWER: There are three Detective Constables and one Detective Sergeant in the Operation Grange team.
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Post  Crackfox on Wed 04 Apr 2018, 2:56 pm

Poe wrote:Lots of opinions about hiding a body in that article but no mention of a live findable child.

And there's the rub. We've gone from abduction to disappearance to hiding a body - this smacks of off the record briefings IMO.
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Post  Gloria-Trubshawe on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 10:19 am

Crackfox wrote:
Freedom wrote:That sounds as if David Canter was caught too!

I'm surprised that I haven't heard of Professor Barclay before.

Professor Barclay, David Canter and Chris Stevenson (?) are the three experts who feature in the Dispatches documentary - it's very good but I can't remember what it was called.

I thought it was pretty biased really. As with Colin Sutton in the papers, they were probably asked about ALL possible scenarios but the finished programme / article only included those that skirt around parental involvement. Professor David Barclay also says the dogs could have reacted to meat! Maybe this wasn't his full opinion on the subject and again only parts of what he said was selected, or maybe he agreed to speak on a subject he hasn't looked into thoroughly, who knows.

Now we have the media putting the emphasis on other things that were said.
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Post  Gloria-Trubshawe on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 10:35 am

From The Sun article  ;    "Last week former GP Kate, 50, and heart doctor Gerry, 49, of Rothley, Leics, were verbally attacked by the parents of two missing kids."

Really?  Two parents of missing children question the balance of resources spent on one case and the McCann's 'on-call' journalist says they are 'verbally attacking' the poor McCanns personally.  What a nasty accusation, they really will use anyone and everything to try and elicit sympathy.
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Post  Freedom on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 10:54 am

It's normal behaviour alas with most of the MSM.

Anyone who criticises the McCanns personally and / or the ridiculously OTT attention the case has always attracted has to be discredited.
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Post  Gloria-Trubshawe on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 3:22 pm

Freedom wrote:It's normal behaviour alas with most of the MSM.

Anyone who criticises the McCanns personally and / or the ridiculously OTT attention the case has always attracted has to be discredited.  

It's pretty low, even for their usual standards. It's verging on libel surely? They were complaining about how money is spent by the police, not 'attacking' the McCanns in any way shape or form.
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Post  poster on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 9:09 pm

Gloria-Trubshawe wrote:From The Sun article  ;    "Last week former GP Kate, 50, and heart doctor Gerry, 49, of Rothley, Leics, were verbally attacked by the parents of two missing kids."

Really?  Two parents of missing children question the balance of resources spent on one case and the McCann's 'on-call' journalist says they are 'verbally attacking' the poor McCanns personally.  What a nasty accusation, they really will use anyone and everything to try and elicit sympathy.

Do I detect desperation from Rothley Towers? The 'troll dossier' backfired big time, imo. Surely this is clutching at straws.

Are TM rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic?
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Post  poster on Sat 07 Apr 2018, 1:19 pm

And let me think, how many people have the McCanns possibly 'verbally attacked'?

Dr Amaral, Mrs Fenn, various other members of the Portuguese police, arguably the names in the 'troll dossier' who in some cases may simply have been exercising freedom of speech. Disagreeing with an opinion; not believing someone; being critical; countering an argument - these are not 'attacks'.

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Post  Gloria-Trubshawe on Sun 08 Apr 2018, 3:29 pm

I'm pretty sure every person in the 'troll' dossier was exercising freedom of speech, hence why no-one was charged with anything. There is law that applies if you threaten anyone with violence or assault online.   Calling people names, saying 'you wish they'd die' or anything similar is not a crime, even if some find it in bad taste. So of course as you say, being critical or not believing someone - also not a crime and no prosecutions resulted.

  I think team McCann have chosen to target other parents of missing children now because the public are no longer convinced that everyone against them is a 'troll'. How can they draw attention to 'trolls' when recently some of their own pet trolls have been prosecuted for the same behaviour and even worse with child abuse images?  Not a good thing to use as deflection any more, there isn't much left now.
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Post  poster on Mon 09 Apr 2018, 10:42 pm

I think with this case this  expression comes to mind: 'you can fool some of the people all the time or all of the people some of the time but you cannot fool all the people all the time'.

Things have now gone full circle it would seem and I don't see them fooling anyone at any time now. Even Lorraine seems to be keeping quiet.

How will this all end? The million dollar question of course.
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