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Post  candyfloss on Sun 09 Sep 2018, 10:19 am

Madeleine McCann cops in secret trips to Portugal as police remain on trail

By Jonhathan Corke / Published 9th September 2018


The Daily Star Sunday can reveal detectives bought five return flights to the country in the last financial year.

The air tickets, which cost £1,240, were for two separate trips, according to the Metropolitan Police.

The senior investigating officer, Det Chief Insp Nicola Wall, also claimed £811 for accommodation along with £80 on taxis to and from UK airports.

As well as DCI Wall, three detective constables and one detective sergeant are in the Operation Grange investigating team.


Their probe recently won further Home Office funding of up to £150,000.d

Former police and taxpayers have questioned why the probe is still going on.

Details of the flights, which we obtained via Freedom of Information laws, suggest there could still be important leads.

Madeleine’s parents Kate, 50, and Gerry, 49, of Rothley, Leics, believe their girl, who would now be 15, could still be alive.

An £11.5million police probe into her disappearance began in 2011 after a plea to then Prime Minister David Cameron for a British investigation.

Madeleine was three when she vanished from a holiday apartment in 2007 while her parents dined with friends nearby

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/728437/madeleine-mccann-maddie-latest-search-missing-praia-da-luz-portugal


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Post  candyfloss on Sun 09 Sep 2018, 10:21 am

Moving your post here Heisenberg.



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Post  Freedom on Sun 09 Sep 2018, 1:04 pm

Shouldn't it be in the more tabloid rubbish topic?!
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Post  candyfloss on Sun 09 Sep 2018, 1:24 pm

Freedom wrote:Shouldn't it be in the more tabloid rubbish topic?!

Why?

Surely there is actual information there about their trips and the cost, obtained from FOI.?

It will go in the Op Grange thread later.

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Post  Freedom on Sun 09 Sep 2018, 1:31 pm

I was joking.

The sight of Mark Williams-Thomas is very off-putting though!
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Post  Heisenburg on Sun 09 Sep 2018, 1:32 pm

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Freedom wrote:Shouldn't it be in the more tabloid rubbish topic?!

Why?  

Surely there is actual information there about their trips and the cost, obtained from FOI.?  

It will go in the Op Grange thread later.


Those trips were in 2017,March and May,its old news regurgitated, nothing happening so its time for some rubbish.
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Post  candyfloss on Sun 09 Sep 2018, 1:35 pm

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candyfloss wrote:
Freedom wrote:Shouldn't it be in the more tabloid rubbish topic?!

Why?  

Surely there is actual information there about their trips and the cost, obtained from FOI.?  

It will go in the Op Grange thread later.


Those trips were in 2017,March and May,its old news regurgitated, nothing happening so its time for some rubbish.
Ok, well I hadn't heard it before. Secondly they cannot obtain this years figures as yet as it's still 2018 Smile I know they ae last years. Still it is good to have it just in case anyone else missed it. Smile

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Post  TheTruthWillOut on Sun 09 Sep 2018, 5:55 pm

Here is my question about these 5 person trips to Portugal: Why not just do a video conference call? We have the technology.

What requires 5 officers to go twice a year in person these days? I suppose it could be Portugal insisting they go in person to make things as awkward as poss (can't say I would blame them) but doubt it.

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Post  candyfloss on Sun 09 Sep 2018, 6:17 pm

TheTruthWillOut wrote:Here is my question about these 5 person trips to Portugal: Why not just do a video conference call? We have the technology.

What requires 5 officers to go twice a year in person these days? I suppose it could be Portugal insisting they go in person to make things as awkward as poss (can't say I would blame them) but doubt it.


I expect with such a huge case there is the risk of hacking the calls? affraid Can you hack or listen in to calls - I don't know, but I would presume so.

I think the old fashioned way of person to person is the safest.. Perhaps it is signing and rubberstamping documents, or sensitive evidence that cannot be sent by post or email. Just guessing.

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Post  TheTruthWillOut on Sun 09 Sep 2018, 6:57 pm

I'm sure the software used would have encryption and live hacking that would be improbable I say. I really don't think this case is as huge as some of us think. Most don't even remember the case!

Also complex/high profile EAW's are processed electronically and AFAIK don't require multiple officers to travel to a country to sign all the paperwork?

Maybe there is a legit and unavoidable reason for the regular trips but would just like to know what they are.
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Post  canada12 on Sun 09 Sep 2018, 8:24 pm

I suspect it's just good old fashioned diligence. If you've got important information to exchange, and you don't wish to have that information compromised, the best way to ensure it stays confidential is to have a face to face meeting with your counterparts in a secure place. That way you know exactly who is there and who has the information and if everyone is trustworthy and sworn to secrecy, there's no chance the information will be leaked to other interested parties.
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Post  candyfloss on Sun 09 Sep 2018, 8:41 pm

canada12 wrote:I suspect it's just good old fashioned diligence. If you've got important information to exchange, and you don't wish to have that information compromised, the best way to ensure it stays confidential is to have a face to face meeting with your counterparts in a secure place. That way you know exactly who is there and who has the information and if everyone is trustworthy and sworn to secrecy, there's no chance the information will be leaked to other interested parties.

Yes, that is my thinking too canada12

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Post  PMR on Mon 10 Sep 2018, 6:33 am

You can't look at this in the same way you would an offence in the U.K. Different countries have different rules/laws and may necessitate personal attendance

And I am sorry but so many times we have heard 'OG haven't even been to Portugal' Then OG turn out to have been there and it's ' why have OG been to Portugal '
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Post  candyfloss on Tue 11 Sep 2018, 11:35 am

Madeleine McCann search could be shelved 'within three weeks' as money and leads dry up

Funding to search for the girl, who vanished from Praia da Luz in Portugal in May 2007, is expected to run out before the end of the month

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New Home Secretary Sajid Javid has not received any fresh requests for more cash by the police with the current funding pot expected to run out by the end of the month.


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-search-could-shelved-13224719

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Post  Heisenburg on Wed 12 Sep 2018, 7:27 am

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/729047/Madeleine-McC ann-police-search-more-funds-home-office
Stories are coming thick and fast now.
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Post  Lee T G on Wed 12 Sep 2018, 7:41 am

Heisenburg wrote:https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/729047/Madeleine-McC ann-police-search-more-funds-home-office
Stories are coming thick and fast now.

Beats me why the Speaking Clock engage the Atomic Clock for temporal accuracy when I set mine by the flurry of BS defunct red tops come every March and September this past few years...
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Post  unreorganised on Wed 12 Sep 2018, 9:23 am

Lee T G wrote:

Beats me why the Speaking Clock engage the Atomic Clock for temporal accuracy when I set mine by the flurry of BS defunct red tops come every March and September this past few years...

lol!

I'm getting deja vu, all over again!
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Post  candyfloss on Wed 12 Sep 2018, 10:02 am

Never give up - err, reconstruction to help, answering 48 questions to help, etc. etc. Article by guess who. Rolling Eyes


'WE WON'T GIVE UP' Kate and Gerry McCann ‘may hire private detectives again if Met abandons Maddie search’

By Tracey Kandohla


12th September 2018, 7:10 am
Updated: 12th September 2018, 9:10 am

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7236708/madeleine-mccann-search-private-detectives-kate-gerry-parents/

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Post  poster on Wed 12 Sep 2018, 3:52 pm

candyfloss wrote:Never give up - err, reconstruction to help, answering 48 questions to help, etc. etc.  Article by guess who.  Rolling Eyes


'WE WON'T GIVE UP' Kate and Gerry McCann ‘may hire private detectives again if Met abandons Maddie search’

By Tracey Kandohla


12th September 2018, 7:10 am
Updated: 12th September 2018, 9:10 am

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7236708/madeleine-mccann-search-private-detectives-kate-gerry-parents/


Never give up what exactly?
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Post  Heisenburg on Wed 12 Sep 2018, 9:20 pm

Lee T G wrote:
Heisenburg wrote:https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/729047/Madeleine-McC ann-police-search-more-funds-home-office
Stories are coming thick and fast now.

Beats me why the Speaking Clock engage the Atomic Clock for temporal accuracy when I set mine by the flurry of BS defunct red tops come every March and September this past few years...


Its like the the changin' of the seasons and the tides of the sea.

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