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Post  candyfloss on Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:50 pm

Nick Sutton @suttonnick  ·  29 mins 29 minutes ago
Sunday ExpExpress front page: Two years jail for vile trolls



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Post  chirpyinsect on Sat 18 Oct 2014, 9:06 pm

candyfloss wrote:Nick Sutton @suttonnick  ·  29 mins 29 minutes ago
Sunday ExpExpress front page: Two years jail for vile trolls



Well well there will be a few quaking in their boots now. Are you listening oh vile ones?
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Post  travis macbickle on Sat 18 Oct 2014, 9:08 pm

Who did you have in mind chirpy?
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Post  chirpyinsect on Sat 18 Oct 2014, 9:18 pm

travis macbickle wrote:Who did you have in mind chirpy?

Anyone who ever posted a hate message to Brenda Leyland. Anyone who helped to compile the dossier and anyone who continues to spew venom at those who dare to raise a voice in dissent against the mighty TM. There I`ve said it.
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Post  Guest on Sun 19 Oct 2014, 6:45 am

http://news.sky.com/story/1355930/web-trolls-to-face-two-year-jail-terms

Internet trolls who target people with abusive material online will face up to two years in jail under Government plans being set out by the Justice Secretary.

Chris Grayling said he was determined to crack down on trolling with harsh punishments because it was leading to "absolute misery for victims".

He said the venom thrown at people over the internet would never be acceptable in real life.

more in link...
This at the bottom of link...

"It should be seen as online terrorism and it should be illegal." Rolling Eyes The government seem to love that word (pfft)

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Post  chirpyinsect on Sun 19 Oct 2014, 7:01 am

ChillyHeat wrote:http://news.sky.com/story/1355930/web-trolls-to-face-two-year-jail-terms

Internet trolls who target people with abusive material online will face up to two years in jail under Government plans being set out by the Justice Secretary.

Chris Grayling said he was determined to crack down on trolling with harsh punishments because it was leading to "absolute misery for victims".

He said the venom thrown at people over the internet would never be acceptable in real life.

more in link...
This at the bottom of link...

"It should be seen as online terrorism and it should be illegal." Rolling Eyes  The government seem to love that word (pfft)

What better way to control the masses than instil the fear that we are under threat.

Snipped from the link below
Isn’t Fear an Individual Response?
In many cases it is, but there can be collective fears expressed by the majority of people. It is this fear that can send stock markets tumbling and fears about health issues like swine flu rising.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fearofstuff.com%2Fheadline%2Fthe-power-of-collective-fear%2F&ei=u1FDVP7gBsT4yQOFh4L4Aw&usg=AFQjCNHW-Ee_z0gAZkc7rETNgb60NUtr0Q&sig2=DkB2Vw8iO_O9lLKLGAOr4A&bvm=bv.77648437,d.bGQ

To quote Bertrand Russell
“Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd.”

Whilst I subscribe to the above theory it doesn`t preclude us all from being aware that some threats are all too real.

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Post  Guest on Sun 19 Oct 2014, 7:52 am

The more referances I see in respect of an attack on free speech, and the McCanns being mentioned in many of those reports, I feel that we will never ever see the McCanns facing justice. They are, and have been an asset to Government policies in controlling the internet...

Freedom of speech matters – it really does – and whenever we see it under attack, we need to think very carefully about it. Not just the specific attack, or the specific opinion being attacked, but the implications and the part that it plays in the bigger picture.
http://paulbernal.wordpress.com/2013/11/02/free-speech-under-attack/

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Post  chirpyinsect on Sun 19 Oct 2014, 8:46 am

ChillyHeat wrote:The more referances I see in respect of an attack on free speech, and the McCanns being mentioned in many of those reports, I feel that we will never ever see the McCanns facing justice. They are, and have been an asset to Government policies in controlling the internet...

Freedom of speech matters – it really does – and whenever we see it under attack, we need to think very carefully about it. Not just the specific attack, or the specific opinion being attacked, but the implications and the part that it plays in the bigger picture.
http://paulbernal.wordpress.com/2013/11/02/free-speech-under-attack/

I agree with what you say CH. However TM have been useful up to a point but are fast becoming a liability. I feel they are becoming dispensable having outlived their usefulness. GM made the fatal error of thinking he was an important cog in the wheel of government machinations.
The gruesome twosome should be looking over their shoulders. That knock on the door that KM dreads may not be too far off.
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Post  Guest on Sun 19 Oct 2014, 10:03 am

Well, it was Brenda who was threatened with rape and being set alight, so it's nice to know the McCanns are campaigning on her behalf.

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Post  Freedom on Sun 19 Oct 2014, 10:31 am

Let's hope that the ruling will be applied to all unacceptable messages - including those from people who believe the official stories on certain controversial subjects - but I doubt it somehow.
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Post  chirpyinsect on Sun 19 Oct 2014, 4:31 pm

Tigger wrote:Well, it was Brenda who was threatened with rape and being set alight, so it's nice to know the McCanns are campaigning on her behalf.

Just found this on Fbook Madeleine McCann debate group. (joke)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29678989








Brian Robertson

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For all the vile trolls who hate the McCanns, we are coming for you. Best book that hotel room in Leicester while you still can! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29678989













Tougher sentences for internet trolls


Internet trolls could face up to two years in jail under new laws proposed by Justice Secretary Chris Grayling.


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Post  chirpyinsect on Sun 19 Oct 2014, 4:47 pm

Tigger wrote:Well, it was Brenda who was threatened with rape and being set alight, so it's nice to know the McCanns are campaigning on her behalf.


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Anyone else thinks this bears a remarkable similarity to the person who met Brunt to hand over the dossier? Would love to see her kankles.


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Post  chirpyinsect on Sun 19 Oct 2014, 4:48 pm

Tigger wrote:Well, it was Brenda who was threatened with rape and being set alight, so it's nice to know the McCanns are campaigning on her behalf.


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Post  Freedom on Sun 19 Oct 2014, 4:52 pm

That link doesn't work though it may be because I'm having problems with accessing Facebook.

Dare I ask what kankles are?
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Post  chirpyinsect on Sun 19 Oct 2014, 5:00 pm

Freedom wrote:That link doesn't work though it may be because I'm having problems with accessing Facebook.

Dare I ask what kankles are?

Works for me so must be your FB. It is a vile song against ScoobyDoo (your guess is as good as mine as to who she refers) where she uses the expression bawbag.
Now anyone Scottish knows this as a reference to a man`s dangly bits. It has become something of a mantra for the pro side and I first saw it used by Sorcha MacPharlain who disappeared for a few days but has resurfaced as Sorcha Mac. I am surprised as she and Gwen James were 2 of the ones exposed over on the other forum as being PG`s cohorts.
Just read Cath Sidebottom who is the singer of the song saying Sorcha wrote it.
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Post  Guest on Sun 19 Oct 2014, 5:15 pm

Freedom wrote:That link doesn't work though it may be because I'm having problems with accessing Facebook.

Dare I ask what kankles are?

Kankles - a leg meets the feet without any definition of an ankle, as in Nora Batty in "Last of the Summer Wine". Straight up and straight down.

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Post  candyfloss on Sun 19 Oct 2014, 5:20 pm

Don't Forget Madeleine wrote:
Freedom wrote:That link doesn't work though it may be because I'm having problems with accessing Facebook.

Dare I ask what kankles are?

Kankles - a leg meets the feet without any definition of an ankle, as in Nora Batty in "Last of the Summer Wine".  Straight up and straight down.

Well I never,  lol!     I've learned something new today Laughing

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Post  Guest on Sun 19 Oct 2014, 5:38 pm

candyfloss wrote:
Don't Forget Madeleine wrote:
Freedom wrote:That link doesn't work though it may be because I'm having problems with accessing Facebook.

Dare I ask what kankles are?

Kankles - a leg meets the feet without any definition of an ankle, as in Nora Batty in "Last of the Summer Wine".  Straight up and straight down.

Well I never,  lol!     I've learned something new today Laughing

Have you led a sheltered life Candyfloss.   Very Happy

My cousin suffered from "kankles", she was a very pretty girl except for her kankles, which we used to tease her about unmercifully when we were younger, but it didn't stop her from being attractive to the opposite sex, Nora Batty gets her fair share of male admirers, even with her kankles and wrinkly stockings.  Very Happy

My cousin ended up marrying someone in the music business so he obviously wasn't put off by her kankles.


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Post  Freedom on Sun 19 Oct 2014, 5:44 pm

I'm similarly sheltered!

Even with the usual spelling cankles, I've not heard of them.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cankles
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Post  Mimi on Sun 19 Oct 2014, 6:58 pm

chirpyinsect wrote:
Tigger wrote:Well, it was Brenda who was threatened with rape and being set alight, so it's nice to know the McCanns are campaigning on her behalf.

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Anyone else thinks this bears a remarkable similarity to the person who met Brunt to hand over the dossier? Would love to see her kankles.

No don`t think its her.  The woman MB interviewed had shoulder length dark hair and she was a smarter dresser (if you like that sort of thing).  The woman on that video is a scruffy dresser plus being a right nasty, crude individual.  How depressing there are such vile people in this world.
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Post  chirpyinsect on Sun 19 Oct 2014, 7:23 pm

Mimi wrote:
chirpyinsect wrote:
Tigger wrote:Well, it was Brenda who was threatened with rape and being set alight, so it's nice to know the McCanns are campaigning on her behalf.

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Anyone else thinks this bears a remarkable similarity to the person who met Brunt to hand over the dossier? Would love to see her kankles.

No don`t think its her.  The woman MB interviewed had shoulder length dark hair and she was a smarter dresser (if you like that sort of thing).  The woman on that video is a scruffy dresser plus being a right nasty, crude individual.  How depressing there are such vile people in this world.

Can`t agree Mimi. She has blonde hair as can be seen on the Sky News special report at 4.41. Don`t forget her voice is dubbed so may sound "posher" than her actual voice

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCYQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.sky.com%2Fvideo%2F1346113%2Fspecial-report-mccann-trolls&ei=ZP1DVKzfG43zaLGlgMAD&usg=AFQjCNF0uev3tPx5wm0yhTk_eAH73k7ceQ&sig2=uEqFwAZ5lAZAB0naduX5ow&bvm=bv.77648437,d.d2s

I have been watching this lot since before Brenda died and they are an insidious bunch. I have watched how they started as foul mouthed amoeba with quite obvious intent to shout down any dissenters calling anyone who dared try to actually debate, all manner of nasty names Then when the brown stuff hit the cooling device they went quiet till they regrouped. They then re-emerged as a more cohesive faction who proceeded to  derail any anti McCann thinking by baffling with science. They spout rhetoric in vast quantities but change the text to suit their purpose. whilst making it look authentic with links that few people will bother to open. I just did and found an anomaly right away. It is the same people who appear in different guises and you can tell by certain similarities in speech patterns and sayings.
They have fake FB accounts and use them to sucker people in who then think they are really arguing with a true McCann supporter. I have seen it at work and it is chilling to watch.
These poor mugs come on night after night firefighting when all they are doing is being mugged.
That is not the action of a true McCann believer. If that is not propaganda by the family I don`t know my own name.
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Post  Guest on Sun 19 Oct 2014, 7:57 pm

I promised never to post again, but wanted to say a few things:

I know the woman who is singing the song. We were friends on Facebook until she deleted her account after Brenda's death.

When I first started making videos she befreinded me and was very ingratiating.

She said she used to be an 'anti' but was now 60% pro.

I immediately became alarmed at this. She was very clever and I immediately believed her to be a paid shill.

In fact I made several videos trying to wake people up to the idea of paid shills and to stop wasting time with them.

But eventually I came to the conclusion that this woman probably wasn't a paid shill. This is difficult to understand, given how regularly she seemed to post on the forums despite having two jobs to hold down. Also she knew the case inside out and could counter all my points with decent arguments. She said she used to believed Philip Edmunds might have had something to do with the case, but had recently turned to thinking that the simplest explanation was that Madeleine was abducted. I thought this was BS.

Yet ultimately I had to accept she was genuine. I found her warm and freindly and also agreed with her as regards some of the antis who were persona non grata to both of us. We were going to speak on the phone in fact. Then the Brenda Leyland incident occurred.

Some of her tweets were then exposed; and today I have seen that video.

To be honest I can't really say it surprises me. Since I'm well aware of how two-sided, multiple personality disordered people can be. Had I been on the wrong end of her messages I would have been livid. All I can say is that she was nice to me. I would love to think she was a paid shill, but I'm just not sure she is. Maybe just a bit over-stressed or something.  

As for the video. Although I take your reservations into account Mimi, I'm tempted to say it's her. But then the people over on McCann and other mysterys would have settled this question along time ago I think. (Which raises another issue, that one half of our collective group has got no idea what the other half is doing).

I also believe I know where my facebook friend lives. So if anyone can locate the park, I could confirm it. To be honest though, they must have already sussed out the answers to these questions over on Facebook I would think.

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Post  chirpyinsect on Sun 19 Oct 2014, 8:07 pm

Small world eh? That is their MO. They all to a man and woman say they used to be anti but after reading up on the dogs/ dna/the bewk etc they saw the light. Shades of B Ry.. here. It gives their story a little more credibility with people who have no real experience of the case but have been moved to do some research. I so want to pm the poor souls to warn them but that would expose my own FB and as I don`t do fake accounts it would be foolish of me.
Why do you say you won`t post again? I have only seen a couple of your vids but them seem on the right track.
Would this person be within striking distance of Leicestershire/Lincs?
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Post  Mimi on Sun 19 Oct 2014, 8:15 pm

Really good to see you back TBR - I enjoy (and agree) with most of your videos and postings.

What did this woman call herself, or would you rather not say?

As regards the woman on the MB video, I`ll have to check again. I had thought it was AT but have searched the Grimethorpe area near where she lives and works and cannot find a lake/pond/reservoir that has a high wall and houses at the perimeter.

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Post  candyfloss on Sun 19 Oct 2014, 8:16 pm

Just a very gentle reminder here of forum rules - no outing of people or disclosure of any personal details or facts.....thanks.

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