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Post  Andrew on Sat 01 Jul 2017, 7:42 pm

Ah thanks, CF.

I must've missed that as I can't recall reading it before.

Makes perfect sense really.
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Post  Mimi on Sat 01 Jul 2017, 7:44 pm

It looks as though we may see something when Operation Grange is wound up.

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Post  What's_up_doc? on Sun 02 Jul 2017, 11:48 am

I watched DI's  account of SP's time at The People's TV and DI is very scathing about SP. I also watched SP's redress to DI again and what struck me was that SP's argument was not reasonable, in fact I would say it was fallacious in many places. For example, SP criticises DI and insinuates there was financial irregularity at TPTV. She appears to support her argument by referencing her own remuneration as an employee. Surely, as an employee you sign a contract regarding financial renumeration, so to criticise this once you have left seems irrelevant and you can not exprapolate anything about the financial propriety of an organisation on the basis of your own dissatisfaction at your remuneration package. This strikes me as sour grapes and unprofessional. SP also refers to her then partner who she reveals (as evidence of his good character) bought lunches for staff on a regular basis. This proves nothing.

Dave Eden, whose company 'The Community Press Group' is responsible for the production of Sonia Poulton's documentary in which she promises to expose Icke: 'Unmasking the Messiah.' According to Poulton this documentary should have been, "Coming to a screen near you, Autumn 2014". So was this documentary in production at the same time as the Madeleine McCann/ Brenda Leyland documentary? According to SP, shortly after the death of BL, she revealed her frustration to ex-cop Eden, who quickly said he would finance its production. She states in her production diary they had no experience of making a documentary from scratch - but what about 'Unmasking the Messiah', surely that was made from scratch? 


SP:  "Mid month and I receive a call from Dave Eden, a former whistle-blowing cop, who has a production company and an online media outlet. He wants permission to use my YouTube in a story they are doing about Brenda and Madeleine. I tell him to feel free to share it far and wide. 

I then reveal my frustration about not being able to explore the story from a different angle. Right there and then he says "Let's make that documentary, I'll finance it." I don't need asking twice.

With hindsight I realise the naivety of that moment. The fact is none of us had a clue what a murky, obstacle-prone arena we are entering into. We set out to do it because it needed to be done. Neither Dave or I have ever made a documentary from scratch but seeing as no one else in my profession is prepared to speak up, I don't see what choice I have. I didn't come into journalism to be quiet about things that matter. "


I do not know if either documentary was made, I can find no evidence other than a lot of froth and threats. I hope I am wrong, I hope people get the documentary they have waited so patiently for. One thing is for sure - this case is riddled with charlatans and working out who they are is very tricky indeed and frankly not worth the effort. If any of the new members who have joined as a group and know SP could shed light on  the production of this documentary, that would be really helpful. I'm not going to be around for much longer - it's all getting ugly and way too political  - but an answer to that question before I go would be appreciated.

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Post  Freedom on Sun 02 Jul 2017, 12:03 pm

I'm sorry that you're felling dispirited W_u_d. I'm sure that we all do at times like this when there is no news on the case itself and there is inter-forum strife.

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Post  unreorganised on Sun 02 Jul 2017, 12:08 pm

Richard D Hall has also made claims about David Icke's integrity in recent times - I only watched it in passing, but he reckons he's "gone over to the dark side", or something. Icke isn't somebody I've ever followed so I can't comment personally either way.

Regarding things being ugly and political, it's been like that all the time I've been involved - which is by no means as long as others. It's one of the things that reinforces people's belief that this case is anything but normal. It could just be individual nutters attaching themselves to a high profile event, although it feels more coordinated than that.
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Post  Dee Coy on Sun 02 Jul 2017, 12:43 pm

Hi, doc. Don't get too wound up about Sonia, she's just one small player who's involved herself over the last 3 years. 

The way I see it is this, if her documentary gets shown and it's dynamite then brilliant - we've gained a lot. If it doesn't then we're no worse off than before.

Reading her diary I have no doubt she's had huge rocks chucked at her, and let's face it, from what we know of the officialdom surrounding this case are we suprised at that or can doubt it is true? So I say good luck to her and I hope she succeeds. I also believe she's honest.

But she's one small cog in this whole geared labyrinth. You've found the case now and are making huge insightful strides into understanding it - as far as any of us can! Why throw all that away because of doubts as to the history of one commentator? The case is riddled with political influence, and I'm certain there's more than 2 sides involved with an interest. Why is important if SP alone has the correct motivations?

Do keep at it, Doc, your posts are clarifying and provoking. Don't get bogged down with one small element that may or may not come to anything.

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Post  candyfloss on Sun 02 Jul 2017, 12:47 pm

Dee Coy wrote:

The way I see it is this, if her documentary gets shown and it's dynamite then brilliant - we've gained a lot. If it doesn't then we're no worse off than before.

That's spot on Dee Coy, well said. What does it matter in the grand scheme of things. I am sure she must have made it, we have or had a trailer and we had some stills. If it is not allowed to be shown or whatever the reason, it makes no odds. I don't think for a minute she lies, and cannot understand why the attacks on her.

We will have to wait until Op Grange concludes, then let's see what happens.

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Post  unreorganised on Sun 02 Jul 2017, 12:50 pm

Dee Coy wrote:
But she's one small cog in this whole geared labyrinth. You've found the case now and are making huge insightful strides into understanding it - as far as any of us can! Why throw all that away because of doubts as to the history of one commentator? The case is riddled with political influence, and I'm certain there's more than 2 sides involved with an interest. Why is important if SP alone has the correct motivations?

I think for anybody who sets out to understand the case, there comes a moment where, suddenly and unexpectedly, the sheer scale of the thing reveals itself in front of you, and it can be unsettling and overwhelming. Most likely WUD has just arrived at that point.
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Post  Heisenburg on Sun 02 Jul 2017, 12:56 pm

What's_up_doc? wrote:

I do not know if either documentary was made, I can find no evidence other than a lot of froth and threats. I hope I am wrong, I hope people get the documentary they have waited so patiently for. One thing is for sure - this case is riddled with charlatans and working out who they are is very tricky indeed and frankly not worth the effort. If any of the new members who have joined as a group and know SP could shed light on  the production of this documentary, that would be really helpful. I'm not going to be around for much longer - it's all getting ugly and way too political  - but an answer to that question before I go would be appreciated.

Hey stick around,political? the muppets at Westminster have shown they haven't a clue recently,don't think there is anyone in any walk of life who can beat that lot.
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Post  candyfloss on Sun 02 Jul 2017, 1:01 pm

Yes, been like that since the beginning WUD, shouldn't let it get to you.

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Post  Dee Coy on Sun 02 Jul 2017, 1:16 pm

unreorganised wrote:
Dee Coy wrote:
But she's one small cog in this whole geared labyrinth. You've found the case now and are making huge insightful strides into understanding it - as far as any of us can! Why throw all that away because of doubts as to the history of one commentator? The case is riddled with political influence, and I'm certain there's more than 2 sides involved with an interest. Why is important if SP alone has the correct motivations?

I think for anybody who sets out to understand the case, there comes a moment where, suddenly and unexpectedly, the sheer scale of the thing reveals itself in front of you, and it can be unsettling and overwhelming. Most likely WUD has just arrived at that point.
Yes, you're spot-on with that. Once the enormity hits you you definitely take a hit to the solar plexus.

With me, it was first reading the Gaspar statements and the CATs file stuff. All of a sudden a wormhole opened in the wall of the straight path down which I was striding. I stuck my head into it and was hauled bodily into the alternative passages which snake endlessly behind this case. Once you realise the extent to which that stuff has been deliberately concealed then it's a massive shock. And then a whole lot of other things start to make sense.

I think one of the biggest barriers we have to overcome is convincing others that what they think they know of the case are only the shiny ice-skating figures on the pristine ice that covers the murky tendrill-infested waters beneath.


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Post  Châtelaine on Sun 02 Jul 2017, 1:20 pm

Gaspars' statement and the MCs being skint ...
It's been on my mind since a long time [and late Maman's too].

ETA they couldn't survive on 1.2 salary as medics. Bad habits?


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Post  Dee Coy on Sun 02 Jul 2017, 1:25 pm

And then their alleged involvement with the Missing Child Alerts mooted program.

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Post  Châtelaine on Sun 02 Jul 2017, 1:31 pm

Dee Coy wrote:And then their alleged involvement with the Missing Child Alerts mooted program.
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Well, the mind's boggling since a long time.
GM: she's been abducted by peadophiles.
KM: in madeleine [underscore] by KATE MCCANN: page xxx [cannot remember and don't bother to look it up - I hate that book! Imagining Madeleine's private parts being ripped ... !
Good gracious ... That's almost enough for a confession.
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Post  Freedom on Sun 02 Jul 2017, 1:34 pm

I don't think there's evidence to show they actually were skint.

If I remember rightly, there were quotes from relatives saying they'd had to help with paying bills but it's likely that Gerry was on full pay while he was absent from work and there was also the fund.

Yes, some people don't manage their income - no matter how much it is - but we don't know if that's the case here.

Scary Spice didn't manage hers!

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Post  What's_up_doc? on Sun 02 Jul 2017, 1:39 pm

Thanks everyone for your kind words. I became interested in this case after I was talking about Madeleine with my son and I expressed concern for her parents. He looked at me with genuine shock and said "Nobody believes that anymore mum." So I went down the rabbit hole and at first it was fascinating and I have to say uplifting, because it was good to know there were genuine people who poked their heads above the parapet and are speak out. The problem is, the further down the hole you go, the murkier it gets and you start to encounter the charlatans, I've no idea who they are, I can't see them cos it's too murky down here - but I can hear them loud and clear and frankly they scare me. So it's time for me to clamber back up and get some light because I'm out of my depth and my comfort zone.  It's been an adventure. Thanks for the kind words and take care x

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Post  Heisenburg on Sun 02 Jul 2017, 4:25 pm

Once down there you will realise the answer is in the daylight.
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