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Post  Freedom on Sun 07 Dec 2014, 11:14 am

Well, it is The Express which isn't known for its accurate reporting!

I don't remember Jeremy Thorpe admitting at his trial that he had "homosexual tendencies".
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Post  Guest on Sun 07 Dec 2014, 11:18 am

It was well known in some parts,and of course plenty of rumours.

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Post  Freedom on Sun 07 Dec 2014, 11:22 am

That's right that there were rumours but I never read of any confirmation.

I presume that, in view of his two marriages, he was bisexual.
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Post  Guest on Sun 07 Dec 2014, 11:26 am

Freedom wrote:That's right that there were rumours but I never read of any confirmation.

I presume that, in view of his two marriages, he was bisexual.


Good cover?

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Post  Freedom on Sun 07 Dec 2014, 11:33 am

Maybe, Caricature. That certainly wasn't uncommon in days gone by when it would have been the end of someone's career - whether in politics or in show business - for the "truth" to come out.
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Post  Guest on Sun 07 Dec 2014, 11:40 am

Freedom wrote:Maybe, Caricature. That certainly wasn't uncommon in days gone by when it would have been the end of someone's career - whether in politics or in show business - for the "truth" to come out.

If you get the chance, go see "The Imitation Game" about the life of Dr Alan Turing.

If Jeremy Thorpe had had an affair with a Norma Scott, nobody would have turned a hair. It's very sad, for all of us, we were deprived of a great politician.

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Post  Freedom on Sun 07 Dec 2014, 11:44 am

There still would have been problems if "Norma" had been under-age at the time.
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Post  Guest on Sun 07 Dec 2014, 11:51 am

Freedom wrote:There still would have been problems if "Norma" had been under-age at the time.  
But nowhere near as many.

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Post  Lioned on Sun 07 Dec 2014, 12:17 pm

Freedom wrote:There still would have been problems if "Norma" had been under-age at the time.  

I assume you mean Norman ?

The Homosexual affair was alleged to have happened in the early 60's when Scott would have been in his early twenties so no problem with his age as things stand now.However,homosexuality was illegal at that time so i think that is where the problem would be then.

Also many Homosexuals would marry (as cover) as has been suggested so certainly nothing odd about that.
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Post  Freedom on Sun 07 Dec 2014, 12:19 pm

Lioned, I was referring to Resistor's post at 11.40; if the person concerned had been female, there would not have been a problem.
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Post  Lioned on Sun 07 Dec 2014, 12:46 pm

Freedom wrote:Lioned, I was referring to Resistor's post at 11.40; if the person concerned had been female, there would not have been a problem.

Oh sorry,i see it now.

Point is though that Norman was not under age at the time,but it would have been considered illegal for reasons i gave.

I have never seen Thorpe's name come up in any of the other stuff.
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Post  Guest on Sun 07 Dec 2014, 1:10 pm

Lioned wrote:
Freedom wrote:Lioned, I was referring to Resistor's post at 11.40; if the person concerned had been female, there would not have been a problem.

Oh sorry,i see it now.

Point is though that Norman was not under age at the time,but it would have been considered illegal for reasons i gave.

I have never seen Thorpe's name come up in any of the other stuff.


If he didn't know of Smiths shenanigans he wasn't much of a leader.

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Post  Lioned on Sun 07 Dec 2014, 1:48 pm

caricature wrote:
Lioned wrote:
Freedom wrote:Lioned, I was referring to Resistor's post at 11.40; if the person concerned had been female, there would not have been a problem.

Oh sorry,i see it now.

Point is though that Norman was not under age at the time,but it would have been considered illegal for reasons i gave.

I have never seen Thorpe's name come up in any of the other stuff.


If he didn't know of Smiths shenanigans he wasn't much of a leader.

Indeed,though David Steel seemed to think that smacking a few boys bottoms was nothing out of the ordinary for those times.
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Post  Guest on Sun 07 Dec 2014, 1:55 pm

Missed this.

Days before the Old Bailey trial in May 1979, allegations that Smith was a predatory paedophile who preyed on young boys surfaced in the Rochdale Alternative Press and later Private Eye. Mr Carman said not only had Thorpe been well aware of the allegations, he actively took steps to make sure they were stifled. He instructed the establishment’s chief fixer, lawyer Lord Goodman, to ensure the claims were never followed up by the national press to avoid being tarred with the same brush so close to standing trial. Mr Carman said: “Thorpe was concerned and a discussion about Cyril Smith was had.


http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/544447/Sordid-gay-sex-tales-were-kept-out-Jeremy-Thorpe-murder-trial-1979-Norman-Scott

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Post  Lioned on Sun 07 Dec 2014, 2:38 pm

There you go then 'google it' and they will come.

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Post  Lioned on Mon 08 Dec 2014, 5:54 pm

Well He's hardly gone cold in his grave and the ''oily' Thorpe has been throwing his gay lovers to their deaths off the yacht !
I thought thats what Heath did !
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Post  Freedom on Mon 08 Dec 2014, 7:55 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2864906/Did-Jeremy-Thorpe-gay-lover-thrown-death-yacht-Biographer-casts-new-light-double-life-disgraced-Liberal-leader-truly-sensational-claim.html

I thought that it was under age boys with Ted!
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Post  Lioned on Mon 08 Dec 2014, 8:15 pm

Freedom wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2864906/Did-Jeremy-Thorpe-gay-lover-thrown-death-yacht-Biographer-casts-new-light-double-life-disgraced-Liberal-leader-truly-sensational-claim.html

I thought that it was under age boys with Ted!

Yes,those from Jersey so it is alleged !

We will have to ask Mr Fortesque about that.

I was trying to read the Wail article while the sausages were burning.
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Post  Guest on Mon 08 Dec 2014, 8:28 pm

Scilly Isles? Is that near Jersey?

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Post  Freedom on Mon 08 Dec 2014, 8:31 pm

Had to check that out! No, they're off the coast of Cornwall.
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Post  Guest on Mon 08 Dec 2014, 8:37 pm

That is where Ted Heath always sailed the Morning Cloud.

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Post  Dee Coy on Mon 08 Dec 2014, 8:55 pm

Definitely via Jersey also:

http://thedisclosureproject-steelmagnolia.blogspot.co.uk/2011/11/pm-ted-heath-and-young-boys.html

The irony of the last paragraph in light of recent revelations:

"....it was Liberal party Leader Jeremy Thorpes threat to bring down Edward Heath and a big bunch of other politicians, which got him off the Norman Scott attempted murder court case. The name 'Mr. Eddy' was well known on Hampstead Heath and the boys home nearby in the seventies."

Am sick to death of reading about their depravity only after their deaths. This is why I feel we will never see a just result from the current investigations into Elm House and the rest of the historic cases. It's just too big with too many Establishment figures involved. To say nothing of those weilding the cloak of protection. In my opinion.

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Post  Lioned on Mon 08 Dec 2014, 9:42 pm

In my opinion too Dee Coy.Unfortunately power corrupts and so evil will always prevail as we can see from this.....

I make no apologise for posting this again and again and again and when your friends and family tell you your mad and an internet nutter show them this...

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Post  Dee Coy on Mon 08 Dec 2014, 10:00 pm

Yep. That's at the root of it all, Lioned. Get them out of a sticky situation then there's the threat of blackmail forever. Compliant puppets in Parliament their stings pulled by the non-elected true people in power.

I sometimes wonder if political candidates are selected purely because of their propensity for weakness in this way. Entrapment follows and they're a pawn for life.

I believe the whole of the higher echelons of society are shored up in this way. If the investigation tugs the bottom queen from the house of cards, the whole lot will tumble.

So it won't happen. The investigation will founder one way or another.

What was the latest 'blow' to the investigation? The victims won't wait any longer and are refusing to testify? Whatever.

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