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Re: The strange case of Robert Murat

Post  Lioned on Wed 19 Nov 2014, 8:48 pm

Wouldnt trust anything involving Metodo 3.

Murat ? So many questions and coincidences.


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Re: The strange case of Robert Murat

Post  hicks on Wed 19 Nov 2014, 8:48 pm

The Nanny was not named according to this article. You need to scroll down a bit....

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/madeleine-was-killed-as-she-screamed-at-pervert-prowler-police-to-conclude-6634620.html.

Note the nanny said that the incident happened in December 2006. 'His friends dismissed the alleged sighting as a smear and said it could not have been the 34 years old as he was in Britain from October to January this year.

Really??

From the McCannfiles....
Around Christmas 2006 he (Murat) is understood to have moved into the apartment that Ms Walczuch shared with her ex-partner Luis Antonio, apparently with his full agreement. It is believed Murat stayed there for a few months and subsequently Ms Walczuch was a frequent visitor to Casa Liliana.

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Re: The strange case of Robert Murat

Post  Guest on Wed 19 Nov 2014, 8:51 pm

Lioned wrote:Wouldnt trust anything involving Metodo 3.

Murat ? So many questions and coincidences.

Hopefully, these questions and coincidences are exactly what SY are going to resolve.

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Re: The strange case of Robert Murat

Post  chilli on Wed 19 Nov 2014, 9:00 pm

That running headline on Sky reminds of the appalling non stop coverage in 2007 when RM was first questioned. It was pure character assasination particularly by woman that went to school with him. It seems patently obvious to me that he would be interviewed again as part of tne new investigations. The way today's headlines and the ticker tapes are being put out there eg as breaking news almost infers he's a prime suspect and at this stage he is nothing of the sort irrespective of whether he is found to be involved at a later date. It's another example of the msn using the case to sell papers/gain viewers. If I was him I'd be contacting my lawyer already.
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Re: The strange case of Robert Murat

Post  Dee Coy on Wed 19 Nov 2014, 9:16 pm

wlbts wrote:Now the BBC is reporting it as well:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30115913

Madeleine McCann: Ex-suspect Murat 'faces new questions'

Police investigating the disappearance of British girl Madeleine McCann are to question former suspect Robert Murat, the BBC has learned.
British police are due to travel to Portugal to sit in on the questioning of eleven people of interest.
A source close to the case has told the BBC that two of the eleven are Mr Murat and his wife.
Mr Murat was named as an arguido, or, suspect, in the case in 2007 but was later cleared by Portuguese police.
He won substantial damages from various media organisations and has always denied any involvement in Madeleine McCann's disappearance.
Madeleine, of Rothley, Leicestershire, was three when she went missing from her family's holiday apartment on 3 May 2007.

The BBC have updated their report.

On the 6 o'clock news Fiona Bruce clearly said it is the Portuguese who will be re-interviewing him. She mentioned the British sitting in. The report has also been amended:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30115913

"Portuguese police investigating the disappearance of British girl Madeleine McCann are to question former suspect Robert Murat, the BBC has learned."


Is this a Portuguese initiative?

He's being interviewed as a witness, not an arguido, too.

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Re: The strange case of Robert Murat

Post  Guest on Wed 19 Nov 2014, 9:22 pm

chilli wrote:That running headline on Sky reminds of the appalling non stop coverage in 2007 when RM was first questioned. It was pure character assasination particularly by woman that went to school with him. It seems patently obvious to me that he would be interviewed again as part of tne new investigations. The way today's headlines and the ticker tapes are being put out there eg as breaking news almost infers he's a prime suspect and at this stage he is nothing of the sort irrespective of whether he is found to be involved at a later date. It's another example of the msn using the case to sell papers/gain viewers. If I was him I'd be contacting my lawyer already.

I agree chilli - Robert Murat was made out to be a one-eyed, bestiality-loving weirdo and such is human nature, it stuck.

The fact he is going to be interviewed again - as a witness - means the Tapas 9 are only one step away and hopefully this case is nearing a resolution.

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Re: The strange case of Robert Murat

Post  candyfloss on Wed 19 Nov 2014, 9:25 pm

Dee Coy wrote:
wlbts wrote:Now the BBC is reporting it as well:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30115913

Madeleine McCann: Ex-suspect Murat 'faces new questions'

Police investigating the disappearance of British girl Madeleine McCann are to question former suspect Robert Murat, the BBC has learned.
British police are due to travel to Portugal to sit in on the questioning of eleven people of interest.
A source close to the case has told the BBC that two of the eleven are Mr Murat and his wife.
Mr Murat was named as an arguido, or, suspect, in the case in 2007 but was later cleared by Portuguese police.
He won substantial damages from various media organisations and has always denied any involvement in Madeleine McCann's disappearance.
Madeleine, of Rothley, Leicestershire, was three when she went missing from her family's holiday apartment on 3 May 2007.

The BBC have updated their report.

On the 6 o'clock news Fiona Bruce clearly said it is the Portuguese who will be re-interviewing him. She mentioned the British sitting in. The report has also been amended:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30115913

"Portuguese police investigating the disappearance of British girl Madeleine McCann are to question former suspect Robert Murat, the BBC has learned."


Is this a Portuguese initiative?

He's being interviewed as a witness, not an arguido, too.

Odd though that he told another channel, can't remember whether it is ITV or channel 5 now, that he knew nothing about it, and that he and his solicitor had not been informed, and it was pure fantasy?

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Re: The strange case of Robert Murat

Post  nobodythereeither on Wed 19 Nov 2014, 9:30 pm

Tigger wrote:Just as well I didn't sign that petition for a public enquiry into the investigators  of the McCann case.
Which  petition specifically includes SY .. Shocked


Nor did I.

Bloody ridiculous asking for a public enquiry into an SY investigation when the outcome of said investigation isn't even known.

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Re: The strange case of Robert Murat

Post  bellisa on Wed 19 Nov 2014, 9:30 pm

It was channel 5 candyfloss.

Imo this was a deliberate leak of information. Strange timing though considering the interviews were due to take place next week but were supposedly put on hold due to illness of the new prosecutor.

I really get the impression that the investigation is at its closing stages and others will soon be pulled in..
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Re: The strange case of Robert Murat

Post  Guest on Wed 19 Nov 2014, 9:34 pm

For the BBC to be running the story means that it passed their editorial policy, which is stricter than most.

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Re: The strange case of Robert Murat

Post  bellisa on Wed 19 Nov 2014, 9:38 pm

Yes winston that's true. So who has leaked this information and for what purpose?

Operation grange continue to state that they do not give a running commentary and if we're to believe mr murat(as per channel 5) he doesn't know anything about it?
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Re: The strange case of Robert Murat

Post  candyfloss on Wed 19 Nov 2014, 9:43 pm

bellisa wrote:Yes winston that's true. So who has leaked this information and for what purpose?

Operation grange continue to state that they do not give a running commentary and if we're to believe mr murat(as per channel 5) he doesn't know anything about it?

Perhaps he can't say due to the Portuguese secrecty laws, after all it is their case and they re-opened it, so the secrecy law would be in effect.  If he said he was being interviewed he would be breaking that, wouldn't he?

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Re: The strange case of Robert Murat

Post  TheTruthWillOut on Wed 19 Nov 2014, 9:43 pm

Winston Smith wrote:For the BBC to be running the story means that it passed their editorial policy, which is stricter than most.  

Which is quite odd given Murat successfully sued 11 papers and the BBC have basically ignored loads of similar stories over the last weeks/months.

Then again they are quite tight with SY/OG, so know more than most?

I've said before that the BBC IMO are biding their time knowing they have the exclusive for the Crimewatch/How They Caught special.
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Re: The strange case of Robert Murat

Post  candyfloss on Wed 19 Nov 2014, 9:46 pm

Here come the front pages.......


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Re: The strange case of Robert Murat

Post  Guest on Wed 19 Nov 2014, 9:49 pm

TheTruthWillOut wrote:
Winston Smith wrote:For the BBC to be running the story means that it passed their editorial policy, which is stricter than most.  

Which is quite odd given Murat successfully sued 11 papers and the BBC have basically ignored loads of similar stories over the last weeks/months.

Then again they are quite tight with SY/OG, so know more than most?

I've said before that the BBC IMO are biding their time knowing they have the exclusive for the Crimewatch/How They Caught special.

Although it's lately become a much-tarnished body, the BBC reports news, not gossip, and this, I believe, sets it apart from the majority of the MSM.

As for the Beeb biding their time in the hope of an exclusive, they must have been privy to certain sensitive information via Crimewatch and I really hope you're right.

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Re: The strange case of Robert Murat

Post  nobodythereeither on Wed 19 Nov 2014, 9:51 pm

candyfloss wrote:
bellisa wrote:Yes winston that's true. So who has leaked this information and for what purpose?

Operation grange continue to state that they do not give a running commentary and if we're to believe mr murat(as per channel 5) he doesn't know anything about it?

Perhaps he can't say due to the Portuguese secrecty laws, after all it is their case and they re-opened it, so the secrecy law would be in effect.  If he said he was being interviewed he would be breaking that, wouldn't he?


But then saying he knows nothing about it is an outright lie if in fact he does.

Wouldn't he just say "No comment", or "I can't talk about that", or something, if he knew he was to be interviewed?
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Re: The strange case of Robert Murat

Post  Tristar on Wed 19 Nov 2014, 9:52 pm

I welcome Robert Murat being interviewed again - as a witness or arguido? - I don't care at all

For Robert Murat's timeline of what he did - and when/where on the supposed night of the disappearance

Is every bit as befuddled and contradictory

as that of the Tapas 9

and by the same token the Tapasniks - all of them, should be interviewed again

Back to the beginnings - ironically, that's the only way I can see the case progress rather than regress
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Re: The strange case of Robert Murat

Post  Guest on Wed 19 Nov 2014, 9:52 pm

bellisa wrote:Yes winston that's true. So who has leaked this information and for what purpose?

Operation grange continue to state that they do not give a running commentary and if we're to believe mr murat(as per channel 5) he doesn't know anything about it?

Someone's playing games and I don't believe it's the McCanns or Mr Murat . . .

Endgame, anyone?

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Post  Guest on Wed 19 Nov 2014, 9:54 pm

Tristar wrote:I welcome Robert Murat being interviewed again - as a witness or arguido? - I don't care at all

For Robert Murat's timeline of what he did - and when/where on the supposed night of the disappearance

Is every bit as befuddled and contradictory

as that of the Tapas 9

and by the same token the Tapasniks - all of them, should be interviewed again

Back to the beginnings - ironically, that's the only way I can see the case progress rather than regress

Maybe SY - and the PJ  - have peeled the layers of the onion back to the core . . . ?

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Re: The strange case of Robert Murat

Post  Helenmeg on Wed 19 Nov 2014, 9:56 pm

I'm feeling buoyed. It needs resolving soon - I think DC will want it resolving very soon. I do think that OG are releasing pertinent information and have been for some time - to both change the public perception ( e.g. from abduction to death in apartment) and also to apply psychological pressure to the fragile - how much easier for OG if someone breaks rank...
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Re: The strange case of Robert Murat

Post  Guest on Wed 19 Nov 2014, 9:57 pm

Wow interesting times. Im also surprised there isnt more comment on this thread belisa compared with the last photo one.

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Re: The strange case of Robert Murat

Post  Châtelaine on Wed 19 Nov 2014, 9:58 pm

Oh, absolutely, Winston. IMO too: Endgame. Cannot imagine it would stop here and no end ....

BTW I copy with permission a post, which I found very interesting.

Credit to Spook at TMCF.
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Appropos the new information coming out regarding the re-interviewing of original arguidos and witnesses I want to slightly digress for a moment into science and cosmological physics.

Please bear with me, as I think this has some relevance to the case in hand.

Albert Einstein, in 1915, posited a General Theory of Relativity which tried to describe the universe that we live in; how it came about, how it is now and what will happen to it in the future.

Basically put, it gives 3 options,

1. An expanding universe - going on for ever, never ending, growing larger and larger

2. A steady state universe - static, never growing larger, but never shrinking either

3. An oscillating universe - one which grows to its maximum extent then collapses back in upon itself under the weight of gravity

Scientists are coming round to the conclusion that option 3 is the most accurate prediction, given current knowledge.

So, what has this to do with the price of chips in Rothley, I hear you ask?

Well - in the early stages the McCanns were working on option 1 - sightings and publicity was driving suspicion ever outward, towards the limits of their known universe.

After a while, and after they fled Portugal for the safety of Rothley, after they started controlling, or trying to control, public opinion they moved onto option 2 - where nothing much in their universe changed. Suspicion moved away from them, public opinion cooled to the point of apathy and they thought that this was going to continue for ever.

Cue DI Redwood and Operation Grange. Suddenly their universe was being examined in a different light. It was beginning to be held up to more rigorous scrutiny. We are now seeing the effect of option 3 - the collapsing universe.

DI Redwood has examined all of the theories for options 1 & 2 and found them wanting. He has looked at Spotty Man, Harrison Man, Beckham Woman et al. He has looked at Bin men, Cleaners, Gardeners, Charity Workers and Street Musicians. They have all been eliminated. He is now in collapsing universe mode, he is examining those ever closer to the point of the creation of their universe.

He will eventually get to the kernel of truth behind 7 years of deception, distraction and lies.

The universe is collapsing, mind your heads!

All of course just my opinion.

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Re: The strange case of Robert Murat

Post  Guest on Wed 19 Nov 2014, 10:00 pm

Love it, Châtelaine.

The Big Crunch . . .

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Re: The strange case of Robert Murat

Post  Helenmeg on Wed 19 Nov 2014, 10:01 pm

Nice post - about the universe - good analogy.

There's something about Redwood - although I believe he is just a pawn - he's not slimy
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Re: The strange case of Robert Murat

Post  Tristar on Wed 19 Nov 2014, 10:03 pm

Winston Smith wrote:
Tristar wrote:I welcome Robert Murat being interviewed again - as a witness or arguido? - I don't care at all

For Robert Murat's timeline of what he did - and when/where on the supposed night of the disappearance

Is every bit as befuddled and contradictory

as that of the Tapas 9

and by the same token the Tapasniks - all of them, should be interviewed again

Back to the beginnings - ironically, that's the only way I can see the case progress rather than regress

Maybe SY - and the PJ  - have peeled the layers of the onion back to the core . . . ?

That's my hope Winston -

that both police forces cut through all the media crap and propaganda and mass hysteria of 7 years

and went back to square one.

'Where were you on that night and who can (independently - mum doesn't count Robert) corroborate you were there at that time?

Can't answer that satisfactorily? - hey, then you are not witness or arguido - you my friend, are
a potential suspect'.

The pussy footing has to stop - neither the PT nor UK public will fall for the soft soaping approach anymore - and will demand more rigorous practises.
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