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Post  candyfloss Sun 18 Jan 2015, 9:28 pm

Going to give this it's own topic as already mentioned in another thread, but 4 dogs went to PDL not just the 2, so where were the other 2 used?
Great video how the dogs find human tooth.

Meet Badger, Spud, Muzzy and Tito, South Wales Police's crimefighting canine quartet

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Meet Badger, Spud, Muzzy and Tito - highly trained specialists and crime fighters.

The quartet have what from the outside seems like a grisly job - searching for evidence in rape and missing people investigations and for body parts.

But their handlers, PCs Michael Newman, David Brake, Sally Richards and Sgt Andrew Patterson say it is a vital job bringing closure to families in their darkest hour.

The team, from South Wales Police, has been involved in the majority of the recent murder and missing person cases in Wales but their longest operation to date has been the search for Machynlleth school girl, April Jones.

They spent six months, on and off in mid Wales, trawling woodland around Ceinws.

It was both physically and emotionally draining for the officers and the dogs.

PC Newman said: “It was long hours in arduous conditions. The dogs were given special food and drinks to increase their energy and drive. Just like us they became tired.”

“That operation, along with many others, was also hard on the officers.

“But with missing people and murder cases, we know we’re giving people closure. You know that person or body may not have been recovered if it wasn’t for the work that the team put in. With murder cases, it’s about finding evidence that could otherwise have been missed,” said Pc Newman.
Pc Williams said: “It’s a sense of determination to get justice for the family. All of us have a quiet sense of determination. Sometimes you find yourself up to your knees in mud, you have been there for hours but what keeps you going is finding or getting closure for the family.”
As well as working on cases local to their Bridgend base, they have also been asked to go abroad. They have been involved in the most recent search for missing schoolgirl Madeleine McCann.

All four of the team went to Portugal in June last year, working with the Metropolitan Police.
But what is it that makes these springer spaniels so skilled? Partly, it’s because their olfactory glands - in their noses - are 400 times more powerful than a human’s.
Pc Newman said: “The dogs are tasked with looking for evidence which can be a minuscule piece of evidence like a blood drop which is pin-prick sized.”
That could be in a search area which is small - for example a room in a house - or miles and miles of land.
When the dogs find something of interest, they are trained to freeze.
While other force dogs are tasked with smelling explosives, drugs or firearms, these dogs have a “scent spectrum” which covers the changing conditions a body can be found in over days, months or years.

These four are all rescue dogs who came from owners who couldn’t cope with their high drive and endless energy, but it is just which makes them perfect for police work.
They initially have training which lasts up to eight weeks, but from then on it is constantly evolving.
The officers’ role is to use their own training and experience but also intelligence from other police teams to guide the dogs.
Pc Newman explains: “We try and narrow down the search area as best as we can, using intelligence and field skills. As handlers we’re looking at the circumstances and information from national databases and previous experience to help narrow that down.”
The dogs live with their handlers, only leaving their sides when the officers have holidays.
The Victim Recovery and Crime Scene Investigation Team are on call 24 hours a day.
Pc Brake explains they couldn’t do the job without their “supportive families” but all four say they are honoured to be part of an elite team.
And the dogs? “They come to work to play, they have the best job a dog could have,” says Sgt Patterson.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/meet-badger-spud-muzzy-tito-8460918

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Post  Dee Coy Sun 18 Jan 2015, 9:43 pm

Hmm. 2 dogs seen, two dogs not seen. Could it have been a case of 'look over here, not over there' when Redwood was searching the Snail?

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Post  Guest Sun 18 Jan 2015, 9:48 pm

Two dogs in the search where were the other two.

Two sniffer dogs from South Wales Police were seen with their handlers inside the cordon and appeared to be concentrating on a small area which has been marked out with police tape inside.

http://www.itv.com/news/story/2014-06-02/madeleine-mccann-praia-da-luz-portugal/

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Post  Guest Sun 18 Jan 2015, 10:03 pm

Found this elsewhere don't know how it was known.


The two English spaniels being used in the search in Portugal, are called Tito and Muzzy. I wonder if they will become as well-known as Edie and Keela.

Here we are.



http://news.sky.com/story/1274175/madeleine-mccann-police-bring-in-sniffer-dogs



Madeleine McCann: Police Bring In Sniffer Dogs

Sniffer dogs are scouring a site cordoned off for special attention following Madeleine's disappearance in 2007.

13:24, UK, Tuesday 03 June 2014
Video: Madeleine Police Use Sniffer Dogs

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By Tom Parmenter, Sky News Correspondent, in Praia da Luz

British police have brought in sniffer dogs to search areas of scrubland in connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

At least two specially trained victim detection dogs were working with their handlers as part of the renewed police efforts in the Portuguese resort.

One of the handlers, from South Wales Police, was heard shouting instructions to the dogs in Welsh.

The dogs, Tito and Muzzy, took part in the 2012 search for murdered schoolgirl April Jones.

Sky sources understand that a British team of specialist forensic archaeologists are also working on the site.
Scotland Yard detectives work with sniffer dogs at an area in Praia da Luz

Police worked with experienced sniffer dogs on the site

At least 30 officers arrived early on Tuesday morning for the second day of their search, which is taking place in the resort seven years after Madeleine disappeared from her holiday apartment - a five-minute walk from the new search area.

They are part of the large team of British police officers led by the Metropolitan Police detective DCI Andy Redwood who are working in conjunction with Portuguese authorities.

Officers used blue and white police tape to divide the land into sectors for the search.

Three police tents set up on the site are thought to be where the teams are storing kit and taking drinks breaks rather than covering any significant parts of the site.

The teams spent Monday securing and surveying the site and will soon bring in ground-penetrating radar equipment to try to spot any unusual patterns in the terrain.

Radar expert Rom Gostomski, from London-based firm Sandberg, told Sky News: "The radar uses electro-magnetic waves that are fired into the sub-surface at a pretty rapid rate and we measure what comes back from those signals."

The hot and predominantly dry climate on the Algarve, where temperatures regularly top 30C, mean the ground will be far drier than in northern Europe.

"GPR works best in dry conditions - it doesn't like wet, saturated ground because of the high dissolved mineral content," Mr Gostomski explained.
Video: Teams 'Will Use Radar Equipment'

"In a dry country like Portugal you'll generally get much, much better data and penetrate much deeper."

There are different types of radar equipment the police could use, but generally the devices allow officers to monitor the ground at least two metres below the surface.

Mr Gostomski added: "If you have got a buried object that is sufficiently different, with different properties from the surrounding area, it will show up very, very clearly; whereas if you have got a gradual change it can be difficult to detect."
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Scotland Yard say they will not provide a "running commentary" on the searches.

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Post  Guest Mon 19 Jan 2015, 7:47 am

It's brilliant that these were all rescue dogs as well - i'd have thought that their noses would be rather better than 400 times that of humans. 

So once again it was the turn of the British dogs.

I'm proud to be friends with a Spaniel called Evie. 

If only we knew the results.

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Post  Guest Mon 19 Jan 2015, 8:11 am

Our local spaniel is called Simon and he just busted up a ring of drug dealers, by finding £400,000 in cash that was hidden under the floorboards!

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Post  Poe Mon 19 Jan 2015, 8:26 am

Tigger wrote:It's brilliant that these were all rescue dogs as well - i'd have thought that their noses would be rather better than 400 times that of humans. 

So once again it was the turn of the British dogs.

I'm proud to be friends with a Spaniel called Evie. 

If only we knew the results.

Another little turn of the screw - the two sniffer dogs that you saw on tv who apparently found nothing were only half of the story. There were two others whose searches were carried out quietly, away from the glare of publicity and the results of those searches have been kept very quiet.

I wonder if, while watching the televised searches, Kate felt herself relax like the time she watched a video of Eddie & Keela.

I must admit, I'd never make a good criminal because in light of this latest bombshell - not knowing where was searched or what was found - if I had been even slightly involved, I would be climbing the walls in panic right now pale
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Post  Guest Mon 19 Jan 2015, 1:34 pm

Why would she be stressed if she knew there was nothing to find? 

So once again  she tells us something she didn't intend to reveal. Then she adds the 'highly technical' detail about the double  blind study in medicine which only doctors would understand...

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Post  costello Mon 19 Jan 2015, 2:36 pm

I personally hope Badger and Spud had a little run around on Rocha Negra.
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Post  gbwales Mon 19 Jan 2015, 10:59 pm

Fascinating tidbit of news surfacing there. And I hope encouraging.
Would like to think they were in either or both of these areas...
https://maddiemccannmystery.forumotion.co.uk/t153-pings-budens-triangle-ribeira-do-vascao
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Post  dogs don't lie Tue 20 Jan 2015, 7:54 am

gbwales wrote:Fascinating tidbit of news surfacing there. And I hope encouraging.
Would like to think they were in either or both of these areas...
https://maddiemccannmystery.forumotion.co.uk/t153-pings-budens-triangle-ribeira-do-vascao

Hopefully, I don't think they'd have got into or anywhere near 5a, the world would've known so fingers crossed. Some on Twitter think whilst two were working, two were resting ect, I don't believe so, the four would've been mentioned or seen at some point, this was kept quiet for a reason, me thinks.
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Post  dogs don't lie Tue 20 Jan 2015, 8:23 am

Took a look through the pics of the searches from last year, can only find Tito and Muzzys handlers, no pics at all of the other two dogs handlers that I can find, wow!

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Post  Poe Tue 20 Jan 2015, 8:50 am

dogs don't lie wrote:
gbwales wrote:Fascinating tidbit of news surfacing there. And I hope encouraging.
Would like to think they were in either or both of these areas...
https://maddiemccannmystery.forumotion.co.uk/t153-pings-budens-triangle-ribeira-do-vascao

Hopefully, I don't think they'd have got into or anywhere near 5a, the world would've known so fingers crossed. Some on Twitter think whilst two were working, two were resting ect, I don't believe so, the four would've been mentioned or seen at some point, this was kept quiet for a reason, me thinks.
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I agree ddl, given the small time frame and the huge cost of employing four specialist dogs, it would be a waste of resources. This is especially true when you consider it from the dogs' point of view - a nice day out with a long walk and lots of interesting things to smell - to the dogs, it isn't work it's fun.
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Post  Poe Tue 20 Jan 2015, 9:01 am

Tigger wrote:Why would she be stressed if she knew there was nothing to find? 

So once again  she tells us something she didn't intend to reveal. Then she adds the 'highly technical' detail about the double  blind study in medicine which only doctors would understand...

I see your point.

Kerry Needham was sure that Ben wouldn't be found when the police carried out the dig in Kos so there was no need for her to be stressed. Just look at this photograph of her relaxing by the sea:

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Quite a contrast to these distraught parents:

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Post  PMR Tue 20 Jan 2015, 9:26 am

I have seen police dogs in action, both search and response, on many occasions. I have in small ways assisted in their training. I would never doubt their abilities. TBH I suspected that was what was happening in P de L , a high visibility show with AR prominent and the real action going on out of the public eye.
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Post  bluebell Tue 20 Jan 2015, 4:00 pm

Poe wrote:
Tigger wrote:Why would she be stressed if she knew there was nothing to find? 

So once again  she tells us something she didn't intend to reveal. Then she adds the 'highly technical' detail about the double  blind study in medicine which only doctors would understand...

I see your point.

Kerry Needham was sure that Ben wouldn't be found when the police carried out the dig in Kos so there was no need for her to be stressed. Just look at this photograph of her relaxing by the sea:

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Quite a contrast to these distraught parents:

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The comparison between those two photos makes me soooo angry.
   
How on earth can this circus have dragged on for so long, it was all too obvious from the beginning.
When will Maddie get the justice she deserves - and the justice those two deserve as well.     Mad

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Post  Châtelaine Tue 20 Jan 2015, 5:45 pm

As soon as Amaral wins his case?
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