LIBEL/DAMAGES TRIAL McCanns v Amaral UPDATES - 21/01/15

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Post  Poe on Thu Jan 22, 2015 8:50 am

Oh dear!

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/553447/Kate-Gerry-McCann-key-court-victory-libel-battle-Goncalo-Amaral

Kate and Gerry McCann win court victory in £1million libel battle against ex-police chief

MADELEINE McCann’s parents won a key victory in their £1million libel battle against an ex-police chief yesterday.

Published: 00:01, Thu, January 22, 2015

A Portuguese judge ruled that the couple were “emotionally hurt” by the former detective’s book about the three-year-old’s disappearance from Praia da Luz in the Algarve in May 2007.

She also said Goncalo Amaral appeared to breach secrecy rules by including confidential official files in the book.

Kate and Gerry McCann are hoping for a final judgment in the case next month.

I can't wait to see how they try to spin the not-a-libel trial verdict.
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Post  Chop Suey on Toast on Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:08 am

We shouldn't be surprised when the media don't do their homework. They failed in this respect over the Sun page 3 story too. Two days talking endlessly about the decision to drop it, without confirmation from the paper itself, and today... it's back!
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Post  Guest on Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:36 am

So another "journalist" who has read the Pink press release and not actually bothered to find out any FACTS.  Crunt was full of it on Twitter yesterday.  Took a right pasting off the twitterati, and quite rightly so - if these so called "journalists" can't even get the basic facts right, what hope is there for any of us.  If it wasn't for social media, none of us would ever learn the truth about anything.

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Post  Cristobell on Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:33 am

Resistor wrote:So another "journalist" who has read the Pink press release and not actually bothered to find out any FACTS.  Crunt was full of it on Twitter yesterday.  Took a right pasting off the twitterati, and quite rightly so - if these so called "journalists" can't even get the basic facts right, what hope is there for any of us.  If it wasn't for social media, none of us would ever learn the truth about anything.

I can't find an applause smiley, but those are my sentiments to your above post Resistor cheers
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Post  candyfloss on Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:43 am

Posted by portugalpress on January 22, 2015


Amaral supporters optimistic following judge’s rulings in McCanns’ libel case






Kate and Gerry McCann seemed to suffer a setback on Wednesday in suing former detective Gonçalo Amaral over his controversial book about the disappearance of their daughter Madeleine. In Lisbon’s Palace of Justice, Judge Maria Emília Melo e Castro handed lawyers in the civil action a written statement evaluating as proven or not a list of 37 points on which she intends to base her verdict. Neither the McCanns nor Amaral were present. Amaral supporters said afterwards that the statement made them feel cautiously optimistic. The McCanns are seeking €1.2 million in damages for the severe distress they say has been caused to them by the book, A Verdade da Mentira (‘The Truth of the Lie’) and a subsequent documentary. The judge ruled that while statements in the book had psychologically affected the McCanns, the great anguish suffered by the couple over their missing daughter preceded the book’s publication rather than being a consequence of it. She pointed out that the book was very largely based on facts in police files. Nowhere did Amaral claim that the McCanns had killed their daughter, only the theory that they had hidden Madeleine’s body and fabricated a story about abduction, said the judge. In personal statements to the court last July, both Kate and Gerry McCann spoke not only of the great harm they believed had been caused to their family by allegations in the book, but that the allegations had hampered the search for Madeleine. The judge said it had not been proved that the Polícia Judiciária stopped collecting information and investigating the disappearance because of the book’s contents. Amaral insisted last year that the lawfulness of his book was “indisputable” because of a decision of the Appellate Court in Lisbon that overturned an earlier ruling banning it. The McCanns now have time to seek and present authorisation from the British High Court to formally represent their daughter in this case. Madeleine was made a ward of court at the instigation of her parents in April 2008. This could have a bearing on the amount of any compensation eventually awarded. This long-running case in Lisbon has been suspended several times over the past five years, including in January 2013 when the court allowed the two sides to try to reach a private settlement. No agreement was reached. No date has been set for a verdict but it is thought to be more than two months away. Even when it comes, the verdict will probably not be the end of the matter. An appeal is likely. Also, Amaral has let it be known that he is considering instigating a counter defamation lawsuit against the McCanns to seek compensation for the enormous damages on different levels he claims they have caused him.

    By LEN PORThttp://algarvenewswatch.blogspot.pt/

http://portugalresident.com/amaral-supporters-optimistic-following-judge%E2%80%99s-rulings-in-mccanns%E2%80%99-libel-case

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Post  candyfloss on Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:50 am

Can someone on twitter send that to the Express!

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Post  Guest on Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:00 am

As for the the Documentary - they produced a documentary themselves - according to their version of events and even managed to get that wrong.

The case was held up iirc because last year the exact income from the book and DVD had to be calculated. When I read those figures I thought "That must hurt!' and I'm talking about TM and certain other people who have published informative material... Very Happy




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Post  Scrants on Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:02 pm

http://textusa.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/2015.html#comment-form

Textusa has translated Portuguese newspaper reports. In the comments section.
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Post  Burst on Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:46 pm

Good to see parapono updating on the case as well. She's a trustworthy source in my book. Gr. M
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Post  Lioned on Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:48 pm

Does anyone have any info' on the process the mccanns will have to go to in order to claim action on behalf of Madeleine ?
I believe they were given some time to obtain such documents as required as Madeleine is a Ward of Court.

As i recall if they don't get this then any award from this trial will be reduced by that third ? It will be interesting to see if they bother to apply for that now but i dont suppose we will be privy to that information for a while at least.

Things certainly don't look good for the mccanns from how i read things but by no means certain that they will be awarded zilch !

Them over on the Dark side seem to be cock a hoop about their victory ! And my friend blacksmith seems to think they have suffered a humiliating defeat.
The judgement of the effect of the book being 'unproven' seems massive to me.
Costs of this case must be incredible and i am guessing far in excess of anything the judge may award to the mccanns so my guess is that the judgement as to who pays costs could be a major factor,perhaps the biggest factor, in this.


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Post  AndyB on Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:03 pm

Lioned wrote:Costs of this case must be incredible and i am guessing far in excess of anything the judge may award to the mccanns so my guess is that the judgement as to who pays costs could be a major factor,perhaps the biggest factor, in this.
Absolutely, and don't forget the costs of the three book banning trials (for which the McCanns are liable, having lost) have been held back to be off-set against the costs in this case. I suspect it might be the book banning costs as much as greed that caused them to launch the libel action
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Post  candyfloss on Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:06 pm

Judge no evidence that book about Maddie "destroyed" parents




Posted at 18:40


A judge of the courthouse Lisbon held, on Wednesday, that the McCann couple has not been damaged because of the publication of the book "The Truth of the Lie", written by Gonçalo Amaral, where the ex - PJ coordinator argues the responsibility of Kate and Gerry in their daughter's disappearance.

Judge Emilia Melo e Castro, the assessment of the requirements of civil proceedings instituted by Kate and Gerry McCann Gonçalo Amaral for the publication of the book "Maddie, the truth of the lie," says, in order that the JN had access, that "there was proof that Kate and Gerry McCann authors are destroyed points of moral, social and ethical "with the publication of the book
Recognizing that the British couple felt "anger, despair and anguish," the magistrate said not possible, "from the available evidence, to discern" where the alleged damage attributed to Gonçalo Amaral are "a consequence of the disappearance of Madeleine" or "effect book. "

Melo e Castro said that "the family point of view the evidence revealed a successful effort cohesion" of the couple. It also found that "the sentimental / emotional point of view is not credible that the consequences of the facts of these proceedings will to the point of destruction or well beyond the pain caused by the disappearance of the daughter of those authors."


Have Gonçalo Amaral, told JN be satisfied with the decision of the magistrate, pointing out that "what was at issue was proving or disproving facts

http://www.jn.pt/Dossies/dossie.aspx?content_id=4357454&dossier=O caso Maddie McCann]http://www.jn.pt/Dossies/dossie.aspx?content_id=4357454&dossier=O%20caso%20Maddie%20McCann


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Post  dogs don't lie on Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:15 pm

Brilliant, will re-read in the morning for a great start for a new day! sunny

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Post  dogs don't lie on Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:59 am

dogs don't lie wrote:Brilliant, will re-read in the morning for a great start for a new day! sunny

Brilliant, re-read, great start,
The silence is deafening though!

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Post  Guest on Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:11 am

WooHoo cheers

Not that I ever had any doubt that the judgement would be in Snr Amaral's favour, the Mc's claims were ludicrous, especially the part about hindering the search, particularly when Grange were out there digging along with the PJ, as the court case rumbled on, and it always seemed obvious to me that the book could not have caused more damage than the loss of Madeleine herself

Phew..it seems like common sense has finally prevailed

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Post  Thetruth on Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:24 am

dogs don't lie wrote:
dogs don't lie wrote:Brilliant, will re-read in the morning for a great start for a new day! sunny

Brilliant, re-read, great start,
The silence is deafening though!

DEAFENING !!

Not the tiniest squeak can I find.

Grauniad and BBC, whilst usually good for a 'Saintly Couple ' article, are silent.

I think it just shows now who was actually authoring the authoritative articles in the past.
Now silence.
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Post  dogs don't lie on Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:52 am

And remember, DCI Wall solves cases quickly and no one gets involved!

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Post  Poe on Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:02 am

No Gerry, no Kate, no "friend of the family", no Dra. Duarte, no shills on twitter ...where is everybody? Suspect

It's looking good isn't it? Smile
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Post  Guest on Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:58 pm

Really is a cat and mouse game, between now and the final decision on TMs case against Dr Amaral. If there is no conclusive suspect then I can see it going in his favor to a point. But also the Judge has to be very careful. If not now  there maybe a case against the McCann's later, some evidence comes to the forefront etc. As far as I know not one of that group have been seen to be actively supporting the McCann's in all this time.  They have to find a suspect pretty quick for it to completely swing their way. jmo
And I bet they are flat out looking for that suspect.

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Post  costello on Thu Feb 05, 2015 2:13 pm

This is good news, hopefully sooner than expected.
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