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Post  Andrew on Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:33 pm

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Post  Guest on Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:42 pm

Andrew wrote:Leon Brittan dies

Died of cancer at the age of 75. He'd been ill for some months apparently, according to TV news reports.

Is this going to turn into another JS case, perhaps? Many people feeling they can come forward now to tell what was going on in Dolphin Square, will LB's estate be able to cover all the compensation claims that may well come up.

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Post  Lioned on Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:18 pm

Maybe they'll find that file now !
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Post  Guest on Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:35 pm

Lioned wrote:Maybe they'll find that file now !

You can bet your last penny that they will!

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Post  margaret on Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:43 pm

Far too convenient. Still if he was involved in child abuse or covering up child abuse he'll be stoking the fires of hell with Jimmy Savile. You may escape justice in this world but not the next.
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Post  Guest on Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:54 pm

margaret wrote:Far too convenient. Still if he was involved in child abuse or covering up child abuse he'll be stoking the fires of hell with Jimmy Savile. You may escape justice in this world but not the next.

I had the same thought but didn't want to print it.  However, he did look ill on the news earlier when he was shown walking along the road into a building but it doesn't rule out the fact that if he knew he was that ill that he took an easier way out to avoid any future court cases, etc.

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Post  candyfloss on Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:23 pm

It's not over.



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Post  Dee Coy on Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:28 pm

Here we go.

Another death. Cue the little Dutch boy to take another finger out of one of the holes in that dam.


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Post  chirpyinsect on Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:02 am

Dee Coy wrote:Here we go.

Another death. Cue the little Dutch boy to take another finger out of one of the holes in that dam.


Because LB had cancer it will have been known for some time that his death was imminent. Call me cynical but it would seem to me that a lot of stuff will now come out and be laid at a certain door.
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Post  dogs don't lie on Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:09 am

Why does this come out after a death? Is it because of an illness? I mean in the news, not from any victims.

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Post  AndyB on Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:28 am

dogs don't lie wrote:Why does this come out after a death? Is it because of an illness? I mean in the news, not from any victims.
Because we have some of the most repressive libel laws in the world backed up by a judicial system that at times is little more than a lottery. While people are alive our craven press are too terrified of legal action to print anything that might cause them to be sued, even if it's true. That threat disappears on the person's death: You can't libel dead people
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Post  chirpyinsect on Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:41 am

AndyB wrote:
dogs don't lie wrote:Why does this come out after a death? Is it because of an illness? I mean in the news, not from any victims.
Because we have some of the most repressive libel laws in the world backed up by a judicial system that at times is little more than a lottery. While people are alive our craven press are too terrified of legal action to print anything that might cause them to be sued, even if it's true. That threat disappears on the person's death: You can't libel dead people

Not only that AndyB but things can be attributed to a dead person who cant then speak up to defend themselves. Not that I know one way or the other whether LB is complicit in anything.
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Post  Lioned on Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:05 pm

He was interviewed by police last year around June/july i think regarding the rape allegations and that was in the papers at the time.Since then its been no secret that Tom Watson was asked to 'ease off' in Parliament presumably under the suggestion that maybe he was to ill to deal with it.
However,it seems the police are to continue their investigation into the allegatons of rape.

'Scotland Yard says it will continue to investigate allegations former Home Secretary Leon Brittan raped a woman in 1967, despite his death.

The Metropolitan Police Service has confirmed that a review of the case "remains ongoing".

It follows allegations by a woman that she was raped at a flat in London.

The woman was over the age of 18 at the time of the alleged attack, police said.

In a statement, police said: "In late 2012, a woman alleged to the Metropolitan Police Service that she was raped by a man in 1967 at an address in London.'

So now that one of the main cast in the VIP peado investigation is dead will Theresa May speed up her search for a new Chairperson ? Doubt they will have the stomach for it this side of the election particularly as most in the firing line at the moment are Tory MP's.
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Post  Guest on Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:48 pm


There was a report the day before LB died that a professor from Salford University had unearthed a file which had been hidden [ interesting word, not missing] for 35 years


https://uk.news.yahoo.com/video/government-dossier-said-document-sexual-060003355.html

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Post  Lioned on Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:19 pm

It is worth noting that the infamous VIP peado file was first given to Brittan in 1983,not sure when it went missing but it is quite inconceivable that no one knew of at least some of the contents of the file at that time.
Now this was when thatcher was PM and her chief whip at the time and member of her cabinet was a certain John Wakeham later to become (thanks i think to John Major) Lord Wakeham and Leader of the House of Lords.Also became known as 'Mr Fixit' and well respected by all political leaders including tony bliar later as he called upon his services as well i believe.
Baron Wakeham had an extraordinary distinguished career and clearly a very respected 'mover'.

Interestingly he married Margaret Thatchers secretary a year or two following the death of his own wife in the Brighton bombings.

I have posted elsewhere the video of Tim Fortesque who was chief whip prior to Wakeham who openly spoke about covering up the abuse of young boys by 'honourable members'.
That is the chief whips job.
Like i say it is quite certain imo that the PM at the time and others since have been privy to the contents of that 'missing' document.
The chances of Theresa May finding a suitable Chairperson and resuming the inquiry with any degree of alacrity prior to the election is fairly small and shamefull.
Even those who have never believed in conspiracy theory's have trouble with this one.
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Post  Mimi on Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:22 pm

It was sickening listening to Leon Brittan`s obit on `Last Word` on Radio 4 last night - Matthew Paris and some other guy were running down Geoffrey Dickens saying he was as mad as a hatter, foolish, and a headline grabber (that`s from about 6mins on). Typical BBC.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04yk0jc

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Post  candyfloss on Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:45 am

Leon Brittan's catalogue of depravity


FORMER Home Secretary Leon Brittan sexually abused a boy of ten at paedophile ­parties in a ­notorious gay ­brothel, it was claimed last night.

By Tom Savage / Published 25th January 2015


Police were looking into allegations made about the top Tory politician when he died of cancer last week.

Award-winning investigator Mark Williams-Thomas, the man who exposed Jimmy Savile as a paedophile, confirmed: “Police took the ­allegation very seriously.”

Lord Brittan’s apparent sexual deviancy has been rumoured for decades. But today, for the first time, the Daily Star Sunday can reveal what is actually known to authorities.

We can disclose that Brittan’s alleged victim said he was abused while at primary school.

And we can report sickening testimony from a social worker who describes seeing photos taken in the 1970s of Brittan dressed in kinky outfits with naked boys sitting on his lap.

Brittan is said to have abused children at Elm Guest House, a boarding house in Barnes, west
London, run as a brothel in the 1970s and 1980s.

Documents placed online in recent years – but until today unsupported by independent evidence – said he was one of a number of high-profile attendees.

Last night former detective Mr Williams-Thomas spoke out to clarify rumours and ­explain exactly what was being investigated.

He said: “In 2013 the police became aware of information that related to an allegation of sexual assault of a young boy in the 1980s.

“This information related directly to a ­sexual assault alleged to have occurred at the well known and notorious Elm Guest House. It was alleged the offender was Leon Brittan.

“Police took the allegation very seriously and believed it to be credible.”
Mr Williams-Thomas told how Elm Guest House was raided by police in 1982 amid fears children were being abused there.

But he added: “At the time no investigation was done into potential child abuse offences. This was clearly a massive failing by police.

“Following the Savile exposé in 2012, Elm Guest House was investigated again, properly this time – an investigation that remains ­ongoing under the name Operation Fairbank.

“In 2013, officers travelled abroad to see the potential victim. This person is now an adult but was aged ten when the alleged abuse ­occurred.

“The man now lives in the US and, prior to travelling to see him, the British police asked the local sheriff to visit and speak to him.

“The sheriff confirmed the man was ­prepared to make a statement and name Leon Brittan as his
alleged abuser.

“Local police added they felt his account was credible. Yet between the time of the local ­police speaking to the alleged victim and the British police flying out to see him and take a statement, he changed his mind.

“I am aware of a specific reason as to why I believe he changed his mind. At this stage I can’t say what this is, other than to say he came under pressure not to give a statement.

“The British police therefore had a ­credible alleged victim and other ­supporting ­evidence from the 1982 raid.

“If he (the alleged victim) had given a signed statement Leon Brittan would have been formally interviewed under caution over the child abuse ­allegation.”

Brittan, who was Home Secretary ­under Margaret Thatcher from 1983 to 1985, was also named by another alleged victim as being among a group of ­VIPs who he saw at paedophile orgies at the Dolphin Square flats near Westminster.

Brittan made no public comment on the ­allegations before his death from ­cancer at the age of 75 on Wednesday. Friends said the politician was ­horrified by the ­accusastions.

Last year he was quizzed by police ­after a woman claimed he raped her in the late 1960s. Police were investigating that case when he died.

Brittan also came ­under fire after ­campaigning MP ­Geoffrey Dickens handed him evidence of a ­Westminster paedophile ring in 1983.

The files went missing and the crimes were never investigated.

Mr Williams-Thomas added: “I have heard the many rumours flying around. This is why I’ve chosen
to set out what was known about Leon Brittan and what was being investigated – no rumour, no assumptions, just fact.

“I am doing exactly what Leon ­Brittan’s friends have said – ‘put up or shut up’.

“Ultimately only Lord Brittan knows exactly what happened over his many years – true or false, these are the allegations he faced.”

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/421888/Leon-Brittan-depravity

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Post  Lioned on Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:30 pm

And more from Exaro........

http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5464/leon-brittan-was-under-met-probe-over-claims-of-child-sex-abuse
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