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Post  Andrew Thu 05 Mar 2015, 10:11 am

The stepbrother of 16-year-old Becky Watts has appeared in court charged with her murder.

Wearing a blue t-shirt in the dock, Nathan Matthews, 28, spoke only to confirm his name and address.

He was remanded in custody to appear before Bristol Crown Court tomorrow via video link.
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Post  Andrew Thu 05 Mar 2015, 10:24 am

His girlfriend Shauna Hoare, 21, who is charged with intending to pervert the course of justice, was remanded in custody until a preliminary hearing on April 2.
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Post  Guest Thu 05 Mar 2015, 11:37 am

The court clerk told him: "You are charged that between February 18 and March 1 in Bristol that you murdered Rebecca Watts."

Becky Watts went missing from her family home on 19 February. ?

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Post  Freedom Thu 05 Mar 2015, 11:38 am

I have noticed in previous cases that the dates don't always tally with the information given.
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Post  Guest Thu 05 Mar 2015, 11:41 am

Freedom wrote:I have noticed in previous cases that the dates don't always tally with the information given.

Do they Know yet ?

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Post  Freedom Thu 05 Mar 2015, 11:46 am

Not sure who "they" are and what they might know!
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Post  Guest Thu 05 Mar 2015, 11:52 am

Andrew wrote:His girlfriend Shauna Hoare, 21, who is charged with intending to pervert the course of justice, was remanded in custody until a preliminary hearing on April 2.

This was the reported charge in the media- however the CPS statement does not describe a mere intention, but that SH is charged with perverting the course of justice.

re the Feb 18th date.. the police appear to have this date as the last confirmed date anyone not involved actually saw Becky and implies that the accounts given of who saw her last, by involved persons , are probably not credible.

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Post  costello Thu 05 Mar 2015, 11:59 am

[quote="Markus 2"]The court clerk told him: "You are charged that between February 18 and March 1 in Bristol that you murdered Rebecca Watts."

Becky Watts went missing from her family home on 19 February. ?[/quote


I thought she went missing on the 18th, but was only reported to the Police on the 19th.
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Post  Freedom Thu 05 Mar 2015, 12:09 pm

No, missing on the 19th, reported to the police on the 20th.
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Post  Guest Thu 05 Mar 2015, 12:10 pm

costello wrote:
Markus 2 wrote:The court clerk told him: "You are charged that between February 18 and March 1 in Bristol that you murdered Rebecca Watts."

Becky Watts went missing from her family home on 19 February. ?[/quote


I thought she went missing on the 18th, but was only reported to the Police on the 19th.
sky news

18 February

::  Sixteen-year-old Becky goes to stay the night with a friend.

19 February

::  The teenager returns mid-morning to her home in the St George area of Bristol.
The court clerk told him: "You are charged that between February 18 and March 1 in Bristol that you murdered Rebecca Watts."

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Post  costello Thu 05 Mar 2015, 12:13 pm

Thanks Freedom and Markus 2.
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Post  Guest Thu 05 Mar 2015, 12:33 pm

TheTruthWillOut wrote:Anyway, back to the case..

This Mirror article talks about an alleged text sent by Becky the day before (18th Feb) and I think it could hold the key to this case if it was sent. Don't really want to post my thoughts just yet, though.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/rebecca-watts-missing-friends-claim-5237904

Police have refused to comment on allegations that missing schoolgirl Becky Watts sent a text message stating "who would miss me if I disappeared" the day before she was last seen.

Friends had said the 16-year-old had sent the text before she disappeared.

Asked to confirm whether the text was being considered, Detective Inspector Richard Ocone, leading the investigation, said: "I can't comment on that at this stage."

With these latest dates from the court I think I know what you are thinking.

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Post  Andrew Thu 05 Mar 2015, 12:52 pm

February 18, 2015
Becky stays overnight at a friend's house.

February 19
She returns to her home in Crown Hill, St George, Bristol, at around 11.15 am. She left home with her phone, laptop and tablet computer but did not tell friends or family where she was going, or take extra clothing.

February 20
The teenager is reported missing by her family at 4pm.


So who was the 'friend' where she stayed over...

Who actually did see her the next day when she allegedly picked up her stuff...

Who was the last person to see her...

I have some thoughts too but won't say it.
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Post  Dee Coy Thu 05 Mar 2015, 1:12 pm

Andrew wrote:February 18, 2015
Becky stays overnight at a friend's house.

February 19
She returns to her home in Crown Hill, St George, Bristol, at around 11.15 am. She left home with her phone, laptop and tablet computer but did not tell friends or family where she was going, or take extra clothing.

February 20
The teenager is reported missing by her family at 4pm.


So who was the 'friend' where she stayed over...

Who actually did see her the next day when she allegedly picked up her stuff...

Who was the last person to see her...

I have some thoughts too but won't say it.

It does make you think....

According to this Mirror report, Rebecca's stepmother, Anjie, Matthews' mother, was the last to see her:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/missing-rebecca-watts-dad-fears-5222741

The youngster was last seen on Thursday morning by Darren's wife Anjie, 49, who left to go to a hospital appointment at around 10.30am.

The family initially thought she had gone out to meet her boyfriend, but when she didn't reply to messages or return home the next day, they called police.

Her phone initially went straight to answer phone, and has now been switched off since Thursday.

Anjie said: "She seemed ok and her normal self. There was nothing out of the blue. She was a bit grumpy, but that was not unusual - just a normal teenager.

"I went to a hospital appointment and left her at home at around 10.30am.

"We thought she might have gone and met her boyfriend and he had texted her to see if she wanted to met, but got no response.

"We texted her later in the day to see where she was but her phone was off.

"She hadn't mentioned any plans, but would have just gone out if she had some, but she would have let us know at some point.

"The next day when she still hadn't come home we contacted the police."


So, Rebecca apparently returned home before 10.30 as this is the time Anjie left for the hospital, not "at around 11.15" as stated in the timeline provided by the same paper.

Anjie also makes no mention of Rebecca being out the previous night, only having returned home that morning. She merely states that she left Rebecca at home when she left for the hospital.


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Post  Guest Thu 05 Mar 2015, 1:13 pm

Confusing, the BBC report on this morning's court proceedings says that SH charged with intending to pervert the course of justice, different words were used by CPS.

Media first printed a CPS statement with the words perverting the course of justice iirc , the charge now reads attempting to pervert the course of justice. Makes sense as the police clearly got her before her alleged lies and cover up for her BF derailed the investigation.

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Post  TheTruthWillOut Thu 05 Mar 2015, 1:33 pm

Markus 2 wrote:
TheTruthWillOut wrote:Anyway, back to the case..

This Mirror article talks about an alleged text sent by Becky the day before (18th Feb) and I think it could hold the key to this case if it was sent. Don't really want to post my thoughts just yet, though.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/rebecca-watts-missing-friends-claim-5237904

Police have refused to comment on allegations that missing schoolgirl Becky Watts sent a text message stating "who would miss me if I disappeared" the day before she was last seen.

Friends had said the 16-year-old had sent the text before she disappeared.

Asked to confirm whether the text was being considered, Detective Inspector Richard Ocone, leading the investigation, said: "I can't comment on that at this stage."

With these latest dates from the court  I think I know what you are thinking.

There are many possible scenarios. One of which I could see the police/CPS "overlooking" for the greater good. Wait and see if there are more arrest(s) in the coming days.
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Post  Guest Thu 05 Mar 2015, 2:10 pm

TheTruthWillOut wrote:
Markus 2 wrote:
TheTruthWillOut wrote:Anyway, back to the case..

This Mirror article talks about an alleged text sent by Becky the day before (18th Feb) and I think it could hold the key to this case if it was sent. Don't really want to post my thoughts just yet, though.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/rebecca-watts-missing-friends-claim-5237904

Police have refused to comment on allegations that missing schoolgirl Becky Watts sent a text message stating "who would miss me if I disappeared" the day before she was last seen.

Friends had said the 16-year-old had sent the text before she disappeared.

Asked to confirm whether the text was being considered, Detective Inspector Richard Ocone, leading the investigation, said: "I can't comment on that at this stage."

With these latest dates from the court  I think I know what you are thinking.

There are many possible scenarios. One of which I could see the police/CPS "overlooking" for the greater good. Wait and see if there are more arrest(s) in the coming days.


Do you think it is for the greater good .

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Post  TheTruthWillOut Thu 05 Mar 2015, 2:13 pm

I would prefer the whole truth, Markus.
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Post  Guest Thu 05 Mar 2015, 2:20 pm

TheTruthWillOut wrote:I would prefer the whole truth, Markus.

Likewise


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Post  TheTruthWillOut Thu 05 Mar 2015, 2:23 pm

"Greater good" is probably a bit too Hot Fuzz. "Not in the public interest" is probably better. I would still disagree with it though.
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Post  Guest Thu 05 Mar 2015, 2:33 pm

TheTruthWillOut wrote:"Greater good" is probably a bit too Hot Fuzz. "Not in the public interest" is probably better. I would still disagree with it though.
Yes because if one of them can be done for it ,why not others.

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Post  Andrew Thu 05 Mar 2015, 2:58 pm

There are certainly things that don't add up from what's been reported anyway.
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Post  costello Thu 05 Mar 2015, 3:03 pm

Yes for sure.
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Post  Andrew Thu 05 Mar 2015, 3:49 pm

As others have said. I think there could be a few more twists to it all. That will come out soon enough.
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Post  sally66 Thu 05 Mar 2015, 6:47 pm

I think so too

The text message on the 18/02 and Becky allegedly being grumpy on the 19/02 do make you think of various scenarios

Has it been stated where she allegedly was on the night of the 18/02?
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