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Re:CEOP show Maddie is missing on 30th April 2007.

Post  costello on Wed 17 Jun 2015, 6:59 pm

bluebell wrote:
Andrew wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/QUEENdePORTUGAL/status/611220638267604992/photo/1



WOWEE  !!!#
Thanks Andrew - could someone c/p this please ??        Shocked

Good idea bluebell, I couldn't read it that well, hence the reason I asked Andrew if the information is correct.
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Re: CEOP show Maddie is missing on 30th April 2007

Post  bluebell on Wed 17 Jun 2015, 7:00 pm

Thank you TTWO   -  very interesting indeed "need to know" but I'm hopeless at c/p.        flower

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Re: CEOP show Maddie is missing on 30th April 2007

Post  Dee Coy on Wed 17 Jun 2015, 7:12 pm

The other thing is the picture used by CEOP:



Where did they get hold of it? The first photo released by the McCanns after great convolutions with Kodak Printers etc was this one, I believe:



How come CEOP had a different photo as early as, perhaps, 30 April 2007? This is still peculiar even if the web page was produced soon after the disappearance, say 4/5 May. How come they already had that photo when nobody else did? Or am I missing something obvious?

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Re: CEOP show Maddie is missing on 30th April 2007

Post  dogs don't lie on Wed 17 Jun 2015, 7:15 pm

I feel sick, this is scary if true.

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Post  bluebell on Wed 17 Jun 2015, 7:25 pm

dogs don't lie wrote:I feel sick, this is scary if true.


I feel the same ddl. pale

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Re: CEOP show Maddie is missing on 30th April 2007

Post  froggy on Wed 17 Jun 2015, 7:31 pm

Potentially dynamite. I wait to see how the 'authorities' deal this.

Dare the media pick it up ?
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Post  candyfloss on Wed 17 Jun 2015, 7:35 pm

froggy wrote:Potentially dynamite. I wait to see how the 'authorities' deal this.

Dare the media pick it up ?

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Re: CEOP show Maddie is missing on 30th April 2007

Post  Magnum on Wed 17 Jun 2015, 7:45 pm

Sorry I don't know how to post it. .Many thanks to Isabelle Mc Fadden

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=646628475471403&set=gm.917473394981429&type=1&theater
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Re:CEOP show Maddie is missing on 30th April 2007.

Post  costello on Wed 17 Jun 2015, 8:11 pm

froggy wrote:Potentially dynamite. I wait to see how the 'authorities' deal this.

Dare the media pick it up ?

Hi froggy, I can't see the media doing anything with this, but hopefully it will bring a smile to Dr. Amaral. I for one would like to say this thread has been fascinating all day, all the techno knowledge which is way beyond me, and to honest I got lost at times, but a lot of it does come together if you actually believe this scenario was pre-planned which I have always thought. Again just my thoughts.
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Re: CEOP show Maddie is missing on 30th April 2007

Post  AndyB on Wed 17 Jun 2015, 8:14 pm

costello wrote:I for one would like to say this thread has been fascinating all day, all the techno knowledge which is way beyond me, and to honest I got lost at times, but a lot of it does come together if you actually believe this scenario was pre-planned which I have always thought. Again just my thoughts.
I've never believed that it was pre-planned but the thing I find fascinating is that I'm now forced to confront the possibility that it may have been. That's certainly one of the many implications if 30/04/2007 is true (and I've no reason to doubt it)
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Re:CEOP show Maddie is missing on 30th April 2007.

Post  costello on Wed 17 Jun 2015, 8:24 pm

Magnum wrote:Sorry I don't know how to post it. .Many thanks to Isabelle Mc Fadden

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=646628475471403&set=gm.917473394981429&type=1&theater

Yes many thanks to Isabelle McFadden (think Andrew posted this link up thread). Richard Hall's reaction to this on CMoMM was "Wow Slam Dunk" hopefully says it all really.
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Re: CEOP show Maddie is missing on 30th April 2007

Post  Andrew on Wed 17 Jun 2015, 8:28 pm

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costello wrote:I for one would like to say this thread has been fascinating all day, all the techno knowledge which is way beyond me, and to honest I got lost at times, but a lot of it does come together if you actually believe this scenario was pre-planned which I have always thought. Again just my thoughts.
I've never believed that it was pre-planned but the thing I find fascinating is that I'm now forced to confront the possibility that it may have been. That's certainly one of the many implications if 30/04/2007 is true (and I've no reason to doubt it)
AndyB's post.

That is literally almost word for word that I was going to post on it as well.
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Re: CEOP show Maddie is missing on 30th April 2007

Post  Dee Coy on Wed 17 Jun 2015, 8:46 pm

Richard D Hall says over yonder that, if true, this would blow the Smith sighting out of the water. Can't see how. I agree with him that it blows the McCanns' story out of the water. Obviously! Razz

The Smith sighting could still have taken place for various reasons if a plan went wrong and a second version patched together. The Smiths could also have seen someone unconnected to the case entirely. Dangerous to leap to that sole conclusion by Hall, imo.

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Re: CEOP show Maddie is missing on 30th April 2007

Post  dogs don't lie on Wed 17 Jun 2015, 9:00 pm

If this is true, has anyone any idea of what actually was supposed to happen? scratch

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Re: CEOP show Maddie is missing on 30th April 2007

Post  Andrew on Wed 17 Jun 2015, 9:04 pm

https://mobile.twitter.com/HiDeHo3/status/611262389816791040/photos

Can someone post this pic up. On the phone this eve.
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Re: CEOP show Maddie is missing on 30th April 2007

Post  dogs don't lie on Wed 17 Jun 2015, 9:16 pm

So IMcF had it confirmed but HDH had it as error?

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Re: CEOP show Maddie is missing on 30th April 2007

Post  Andrew on Wed 17 Jun 2015, 9:16 pm

"appear to be incorrect"

Has McGambleRuck been on to him...
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Post  froggy on Wed 17 Jun 2015, 9:20 pm

Surely their writ wouldn't reach that far.

If it is an error, where does that leave the American courts, or is it just going to be an error in that particular record ?
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Re: CEOP show Maddie is missing on 30th April 2007

Post  Dee Coy on Wed 17 Jun 2015, 9:21 pm

Andrew wrote:"appear to be incorrect"

Has McGambleRuck been on to him...

Not a twit from Mr G since the story broke this morning. I bet he's been very busy.

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Re:CEOP show Maddie is missing on 30th April 2007.

Post  costello on Wed 17 Jun 2015, 9:22 pm

Dee Coy wrote:Richard D Hall says over yonder that, if true, this would blow the Smith sighting out of the water. Can't see how. I agree with him that it blows the McCanns' story out of the water. Obviously! Razz

The Smith sighting could still have taken place for various reasons if a plan went wrong and a second version patched together. The Smiths could also have seen someone unconnected to the case entirely. Dangerous to leap to that sole conclusion by Hall, imo.

My belief is yes the plan went wrong big time, and Gerry had to improvise (hastily and maybe foolishly). Still 100% believe the Smith sighting, no two ways about it.
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Post  Dee Coy on Wed 17 Jun 2015, 9:24 pm

costello wrote:
Dee Coy wrote:Richard D Hall says over yonder that, if true, this would blow the Smith sighting out of the water. Can't see how. I agree with him that it blows the McCanns' story out of the water. Obviously! Razz

The Smith sighting could still have taken place for various reasons if a plan went wrong and a second version patched together. The Smiths could also have seen someone unconnected to the case entirely. Dangerous to leap to that sole conclusion by Hall, imo.

My belief is yes the plan went wrong big time, and Gerry had to improvise (hastily and maybe foolishly). Still 100% believe the Smith sighting, no two ways about it.

Me too.

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Re: CEOP show Maddie is missing on 30th April 2007

Post  Andrew on Wed 17 Jun 2015, 9:34 pm

froggy wrote:Surely their writ wouldn't reach that far.

If it is an error, where does that leave the American courts, or is it just going to be an error in that particular record ?
The McArms do seem to bizarrely reach a long way.

Very good question. 

ETA - welcome.

Yes Dee Coy - very unlike Gamble not to be tweeting every few minutes throughout the day/eve.
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Post  dogs don't lie on Wed 17 Jun 2015, 9:36 pm

Know what, the more I think about it, the less sense it makes. If anything involving people in high places and possibly pre-planned, surely there's no way that Portugal would have been picked? Important people would surely know that Portugal would release files when archived? Wouldn't they?
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Re: CEOP show Maddie is missing on 30th April 2007

Post  AndyB on Wed 17 Jun 2015, 9:41 pm

froggy wrote:If it is an error, where does that leave the American courts, or is it just going to be an error in that particular record ?
A very very good question. If there is an error in WBM's dating of an archive, it becomes valueless.
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Re: CEOP show Maddie is missing on 30th April 2007

Post  candyfloss on Wed 17 Jun 2015, 9:45 pm

So a discrepancy they are looking into........






Denise Thomson ‏@Syn0nymph · 6 mins6 minutes ago
@amsterdamkush @annienonymouss @jontait42 They have confirmed that the archive timestamp for that page is actually 31/7/2007 #mccann


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