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Post  Freedom on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 10:47 am

In what respect? We know that JS used to visit PS in Broadmoor.
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Post  Bubblewrapped on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 10:53 am

Freedom wrote:In what respect? We know that JS used to visit PS in Broadmoor.

Savile was also questioned for one of the murders. It is also strange the Sun is allowing Sutcliffe a voice. I dont know...
Sutcliffe - (Savile) - McCann ? Very long stretch I agree...But !
It just feels a bit subliminally noncencical (sp on purpose)

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Post  Bubblewrapped on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 10:58 am

Thought just come to me....I thought he was blind in both eyes, so did he actually write it scratch
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Post  Andrew on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 11:03 am

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/yorkshire-ripper-peter-sutcliffe-sent-6023924

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3153019/Yorkshire-Ripper-slur-against-Madeleine-McCann-s-parents.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/peter-sutcliffe-yorkshire-rippers-love-letters-to-women-from-broadmoor-revealed-10373931.html
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Post  Guinea Pig on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 11:07 am

Bubblewrapped wrote:Thought just come to me....I thought he was blind in both eyes, so did he actually write it scratch

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2904406/Yorkshire-Ripper-blind-year-Peter-Sutcliffe-terrified-doctors-tell-lose-sight-chronic-eye-condition.html

He still has sight in one eye.
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Post  Poe on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 11:09 am

candyfloss wrote:Comments not favouring the McCann's on Sun Facebook page, have a look.....


https://www.facebook.com/thesun


You need to scroll down a bit down the page.

Reading those comments, if this is McSpin then it has backfired spectacularly.

The two doctors who gave their all, including details of their sex life (sorry if you're eating), for the sympathy of the Sun readership are believed less than one of the most notorious serial killers of recent times.

lol!

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Post  Bubblewrapped on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 11:15 am

Andrew wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/yorkshire-ripper-peter-sutcliffe-sent-6023924

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3153019/Yorkshire-Ripper-slur-against-Madeleine-McCann-s-parents.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/peter-sutcliffe-yorkshire-rippers-love-letters-to-women-from-broadmoor-revealed-10373931.html

From the second link :
The murderer, who is already blind in one eye after a prison attack, was also told he could lose what remains of his sight within a year due to an eye condition. He had refused laser eye surgery as he fears it could cause him to lose his vision immediately.

They said this back in 2009 but cant find the link again, but this is from March 2015, so it was said from either March this year or he wrote the McCann story back around 2009

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/yorkshire-ripper-peter-sutcliffe-fears-he-will-soon-be-blind-1482803
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Post  Bubblewrapped on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 11:19 am

The Sun release this story, now all the other papers are reporting it ?
Hmm...The winds might be changing against the McCanns, hopefully.
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Post  Andrew on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 11:59 am

From the Daily Mail article.

You have a picture of Sutcliffe and Saville.

Underneath you have Kate and Gerry McCann.

So photo's of a Murderer and Peodophile right next to Kate and Gerry McCann. 2 of the most vile people ever to grace the planet..... Alongside S and S....

What's that saying... A picture paints a thousand words.... (more so when words can't be printed due to litigation)

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Post  Antonia on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 12:41 pm

candyfloss wrote:Comments not favouring the McCann's on Sun Facebook page, have a look.....


https://www.facebook.com/thesun


You need to scroll down a bit down the page.

Just had a look. The sick troll epidemic is spreading. Even Sun readers are now infected.
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Post  chris on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 12:52 pm

I think the head line is great,even my OH(who takes no interest in this case) commented on it saying, Look even Sutcliffe thinks they did it.
This is bad for the mccanns in my eyes, to be there on the front page linked with the likes of the vile Sutcliffe.
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Post  Inca on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 1:10 pm

chris wrote:I think the head line is great,even my OH(who takes no interest in this case) commented on it saying, Look even Sutcliffe thinks they did it.
This is bad for the mccanns in my eyes, to be there on the front page linked with the likes of the vile Sutcliffe.
Whichever way you take it it is not good, I would guess the McCanns are rather angry about it. Neutral
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Post  Guest on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 1:54 pm

Oh dear! And notably in the Sun's facebook comments, people seem to be glossing over the fact that such a vile and dangerous person has made these comments and are instead focusing on the McCanns and their vile actions, with some even going as far as saying "well they won't be suing him" alluding to the fact that the Mc's never get negative press and those that speak against them are threatened with legal action!

Whilst a lot of people are singling out the neglect (and thus retaining the notion she was abducted) their sympathy has gone, but many people now going that bit further and questioning the entire story...This I gleaned from simply reading the top comment and the 148 or so replies..top comment being "Well he's not wrong is he" So if this was an attempt to align McCann doubters with serial killing nutters, then it has spectacularly backfired and if anything has opened up a public platform for people to say what they really think..with no chance of the Sun being sued.

So, I personally am feeling rather optimistic, albeit a bit dismayed that the likes of sutcliffe is given a voice, and that he has so many "female admirers" but it is a very interesting slant by the Sun, at a time when they have loads of other things to put on the front page, that they would go with this one, because it certainly hasn't done the McCanns any favours at all imo

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Post  Andrew on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 2:25 pm

Spot on Susible.

Why just now and why link Sutcliffe to the McCanns? That's not the work of Clarence IMO, that's for sure.

If it is then it couldn't of gone any worse if they were intentionally trying to rally up some public sympathy on the back of a mass murderer.

I suppose it could be just a ploy to distract from other related McCann goings on. The Wayback stuff for example.... Lets stick something out there that will get everyone talking about 'something else'.... anything apart from the W/B.

I don't think so though. This has been put out for a reason....

Sutcliffe is up there as being one of the most hated persons ever. Judging by public perception these days, then the McCanns aren't that far behind....

And that will really worry Team McCann. Oh dear!!

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Post  Mo on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 3:17 pm

Just a thought although I may be way off the mark, could this be building up to showing Sonia's film??????
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Post  PeterMac on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 3:36 pm

Gonçalo Amaral who has considerable expertise in crime investigation thinks there is something wrong with the story
Tavares de Almeida who has considerable expertise in crime investigation thinks there is something wrong with the story
The State prosecutors who have considerable expertise in crime investigation think there is something wrong with the story

John Stalker who has considerable expertise in crime investigation thinks there is something wrong with the story
Mark Harrison who has considerable expertise in crime investigation thinks there is something wrong with the story
The ACC of LeicPol who has considerable expertise in crime investigation thinks there is something wrong with the story
DC Grime and the dogs who have considerable expertise in crime investigation think there is something wrong with the story

And now a man with considerable expertise in serial killing thinks there is something wrong with the story
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Post  Andrew on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 3:38 pm

Another thought...

If you wanted to use the words 'cast doubt' and 'something not quite right' about the McCanns on the front page of the most read newspaper without immediate lawsuits to follow then the Sun has done quite a job.

Even if the only way round at this moment was to link it to the vile Sutcliffe.

ETA.

@Mo - Not sure about that but would be great if it was. Would be great to hear something from Sonia as well.
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Post  Andrew on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 3:43 pm

PeterMac wrote:Gonçalo Amaral who has considerable expertise in crime investigation thinks there is something wrong with the story
Tavares de Almeida who has considerable expertise in crime investigation thinks there is something wrong with the story
The State prosecutors who have considerable expertise in crime investigation think there is something wrong with the story

John Stalker who has considerable expertise in crime investigation thinks there is something wrong with the story
Mark Harrison who has considerable expertise in crime investigation thinks there is something wrong with the story
The ACC of LeicPol who has considerable expertise in crime investigation thinks there is something wrong with the story
DC Grime and the dogs who have considerable expertise in crime investigation think there is something wrong with the story

And now a man with considerable expertise in serial killing thinks there is something wrong with the story

Plus probably 90% of the population thinks there is something wrong with the story.
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Post  candyfloss on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 3:44 pm

PeterMac wrote:Gonçalo Amaral who has considerable expertise in crime investigation thinks there is something wrong with the story
Tavares de Almeida who has considerable expertise in crime investigation thinks there is something wrong with the story
The State prosecutors who have considerable expertise in crime investigation think there is something wrong with the story

John Stalker who has considerable expertise in crime investigation thinks there is something wrong with the story
Mark Harrison who has considerable expertise in crime investigation thinks there is something wrong with the story
The ACC of LeicPol who has considerable expertise in crime investigation thinks there is something wrong with the story
DC Grime and the dogs who have considerable expertise in crime investigation think there is something wrong with the story

And now a man with considerable expertise in serial killing thinks there is something wrong with the story

You forgot Lee Rainbow, Britains highest ranking criminal profiler at the time...


Britain’s highest ranking criminal profiler had a clearly expressed view which he told the Portuguese police they should follow after they had also asked for help.

Strangely the information was revealed after the Drs McCann had demanded suppression of a book published by the once lead investigator into the circumstances surrounding the disappearance of their daughter.

The advice (again from Britain’s top criminal profiler) was reported in the Mirror:

The National Policing Improvement Agency ( NPIA) expert wrote a report to Algarve police chiefs giving advice.

Details of the confidential report emerged during the final day of a libel trial involving former Portuguese detective Goncalo Amaral, who led the Maddie investigation.

Amaral is trying to overturn a worldwide injunction banning the publication of his book Maddie: The Truth of the Lie. In it he claims Kate and Gerry were involved in Maddie’s death and staged her disappearance. His lawyer, Antonio Cabrita, told the court Rainbow wrote: “It was Madeleine’s father who was the last one to see her alive.

“The family is a lead that should be followed. The contradictions in Gerald McCann’s statements might lead us to suspect a homicide.”

The details were in evidence led in a Lisbon Court last year and prompted a whirlwind PR campaign on the court’s steps immediately after the revelation


http://www.anorak.co.uk/280925/madeleine-mccann/madeleine-mccann-facing-facts-with-lee-rainbow.html/

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/158018/McCann-twins-may-hold-clues-says-criminal-profiler

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Post  JJ on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 4:18 pm

PeterMac wrote:Gonçalo Amaral who has considerable expertise in crime investigation thinks there is something wrong with the story
Tavares de Almeida who has considerable expertise in crime investigation thinks there is something wrong with the story
The State prosecutors who have considerable expertise in crime investigation think there is something wrong with the story

John Stalker who has considerable expertise in crime investigation thinks there is something wrong with the story
Mark Harrison who has considerable expertise in crime investigation thinks there is something wrong with the story
The ACC of LeicPol who has considerable expertise in crime investigation thinks there is something wrong with the story
DC Grime and the dogs who have considerable expertise in crime investigation think there is something wrong with the story

And now a man with considerable expertise in serial killing thinks there is something wrong with the story

How unfair

The Leicestershire Police Chief has found nothing wrong with their story
The CEOP Chief has found nothing wrong with their story
The Operation Grange Chief has found nothing wrong with their story

And whats more, they never will.
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Post  Guest on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 4:30 pm

JJ wrote:
PeterMac wrote:Gonçalo Amaral who has considerable expertise in crime investigation thinks there is something wrong with the story
Tavares de Almeida who has considerable expertise in crime investigation thinks there is something wrong with the story
The State prosecutors who have considerable expertise in crime investigation think there is something wrong with the story

John Stalker who has considerable expertise in crime investigation thinks there is something wrong with the story
Mark Harrison who has considerable expertise in crime investigation thinks there is something wrong with the story
The ACC of LeicPol who has considerable expertise in crime investigation thinks there is something wrong with the story
DC Grime and the dogs who have considerable expertise in crime investigation think there is something wrong with the story

And now a man with considerable expertise in serial killing thinks there is something wrong with the story

How unfair

The Leicestershire Police Chief has found nothing wrong with their story
The CEOP Chief has found nothing wrong with their story
The Operation Grange Chief has found nothing wrong with their story

And whats more, they never will.

The operation grange chief has not said anything, positive or negative about their story, neither did the Leicester police. The former ceop chief had and still has his own agenda..whatever that may be!

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Post  PeterMac on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 4:39 pm

Good grief !

https://www.facebook.com/thesun/posts/1198014240225013
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Post  candyfloss on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 5:07 pm

Just seen this from twitter, just another of those strange coincidences in this saga. I never knew that The rippers first victims husband was called Gerry McCann. Shocked

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/local-stories/daughter-of-ripper-s-first-victim-dies-at-39-1-2485167

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Post  Freedom on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 5:10 pm

I did as I read the book written by the son of the first victim.

https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Into_the_Light.html?id=dS6QAAAACAAJ&hl=en

A drunken violent Scotsman it was claimed..........
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Post  Bubblewrapped on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 5:43 pm

Jon Gaunt from the Sun 7 years ago...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/1198108/Jon-Gaunt-How-can-she-aid-such-a-monster.html

EVIL Peter Sutcliffe is making a bid for freedom by claiming his human rights were breached all those years ago when he was found guilty of butchering 13 young women.
Listen up, you piece of filth — if there was any real justice in this country your human rights would be completely academic by now as you would have done the Saddam shuffle straight to the gallows after your trial.
You and your lawyer should both shut up.
I don’t care if you’re mad or bad but as far as I’m concerned your brief is definitely sad, representing scum like you.
Sutcliffe will never be released, so why are we pandering to him and his brief?
Why are we going to waste thousands of OUR money on this nonsense dragging through the courts?
And why does the legal system always seem to fight for the human rights of the monsters in our society and not the decent silent majority?

Brief ... Saimo Chahal
What about the human rights of the women of the UK?
I don’t know how mother-of-two Saimo Chahal can live with herself as she represents Sutcliffe.
I guess she’s got broad shoulders after being crowned legal rights lawyer of the year and having her award presented by Cherie Blair.
Saimo, I bet your children are really proud of you.
WHAT is it with the McCanns? They say they will do anything to help find Maddie but are still dragging their feet over returning to Portugal for a reconstruction of the fateful night when they left Maddie and her twin siblings home alone.
mpu
Sources close to them say they have "serious reservations".
Why? What serious reservations?
Their spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, asks: "What is the value?"
So now this ex-BBC reporter, Government spin doctor and PR man is suddenly Columbo or Morse, is he?
I’m sorry, but let’s remember they are still prime suspects and if the Portuguese plods want them in Portugal they should be there — reservations or not.


Sutcliffe and the McCanns in the Sun being mentioned together....Again

More from Jon Gaunt
http://l-azzeri-lies-in-the-sun.com/Jon_Gaunt.html


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