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BBC Leicester presenters in court on child sex offence charges...

Post  Rosa canina on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 4:56 am

This seedy couple - they're so English...!

(and he's got a fringe toupee on in a couple of the pictures)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4563414/Ex-BBC-presenter-60-denies-performing-sex-acts-boys.html

Abysmally poor taste calendars, too - who'd buy such an ugly thing?

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Post  Freedom on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 8:37 am

I've put your post here Rosa as there's a link to this case on 20th February.

The calendar was for the Children in Need fund raiser - I've seen worse than that.

Why the age range of the boy here?

"Julie Wadsworth, 60, is accused of having sex with a boy aged between 14 and 18"

Surely, if he was over 16 and quite happy with whatever happened, this wouldn't be illegal?
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Post  Freedom on Fri 09 Jun 2017, 4:05 pm

The verdict on the last mentioned case.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40221782
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Post  Freedom on Sat 10 Jun 2017, 9:06 am

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Post  Andrew on Mon 12 Jun 2017, 12:59 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4595894/Paedophile-Ivor-Gifford-92-jailed-18-months.html

RAF veteran, 92, who was snared by paedophile hunters trying to meet an 11-year-old girl for sex is jailed for 18 months
Ivor Gifford sent explicit messages to two fake profiles purporting to be girls
He was 'well-versed' in chatrooms, using emojis and language to attract girls
The Hunted One caught him after arranging to meet 'Jessie' in South Wales
Guilty of charges including attempting to meet a child after sexual grooming
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Post  Freedom on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 9:58 pm


This is what Pat Brown has to say about there being a mistrial.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/bill-cosby-mistrial-legal-experts-debate-how-happened-whats-next-1014472

This is a good example of why a statute of limitations should be in play with adult complainants. If an adult citizen doesn't believe at the time that behavior reaches the level of a crime that ought to be prosecuted and that what the perpetrator has done should should never be enacted on other human beings, than she/he shouldn't be able to come back years later and whine. Proof and memory disappears over time as well causing it to be difficult to evaluate what actually happened.
Is Bill Cosby guilty? I think he was unquestionably a horndog back in his day and he made use of the casting couch and quaaludes as was quite common back in the 70s. But, hey, the women and men trying to make it in Hollywood were not so naive as to not understand what a famous actor or big producer had in mind when they went to their parties or private domain and hung out with them and accepted drinks and drugs from them. And, if they come back later for more interaction with the guys, then they have make it pretty clear they are willing to do whatever those guys want in order to get whatever they want.
Sure, people in power can use their power , but that doesn't mean if someone gives in to their whims because they see something in it for themselves, they don't have a part in what occurred. It used to be called "prostituting" oneself for gain, but, now, one can do so and then come back and claim they were a victim years later as if they had no control over their own choices.
I think even more than a mistrial, the appropriate verdict should have been "not guilty" in spite of Cosby's shenanigans. I hope they do not try this case again.
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Haut de la Garenne "should be demolished"

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Post  Heisenburg on Sun 09 Jul 2017, 8:48 am

Well worth a read.

Dark forces hoped the QC sex scandal would destroy my child abuse inquiry... and it almost did: Stunning admission by the fourth boss of the troubled historic paedophile probe

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4678490/QC-sex-scandal-ended-child-abuse-inquiry-Jay.html
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Post  Mimi on Sun 09 Jul 2017, 10:47 am

Pat makes sense.  I`d better not say any more.

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Post  Freedom on Sun 09 Jul 2017, 11:40 am

I agree with what she says, Mimi.
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Hollywood Sleaze and the McCann Case...

Post  Rosa canina on Mon 16 Oct 2017, 8:30 am

http://www.hindustantimes.com/music/former-member-calls-pussycat-dolls-a-prostitution-ring-we-were-all-abused/story-sXInATadEJbBJO8c0WvPSK.html


It was Mrs Kate who first introduced wee Madeleine to the PCD :

I’d bought a couple of girl-band CDs a few weeks earlier and we’d been having singalongs in the car to warm up for it. The memory of Madeleine, sitting in the back seat, singing her heart out along with the Pussycat Dolls still makes me laugh. And cry.

McCann, Kate. Madeleine: Our daughter's disappearance and the continuing search for her (Kindle Locations 1916-1918). Transworld. Kindle Edition.   


I reckon that grotty old bag-botherer Cuddlecat could be described as a pussycat doll.

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Post  Freedom on Mon 16 Oct 2017, 10:19 am

I have wondered before about Kate's taste in music, thinking of the image that the PCD had - an unlikely choice for a 30 something mum, in my opinion, and totally unsuitable for a then two-year-old.

As for Harvey Weinstein, he sounds like the usual run-of-the-mill slime ball who has long existed in the entertainment industry.

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Grace Dieu and the Rosminians...

Post  Rosa canina on Thu 26 Oct 2017, 4:54 am


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Video link...

Post  Rosa canina on Thu 26 Oct 2017, 6:18 am

'Abused - Breaking the Silence' is not available on Youtube

(it's the documentary about heinous molestation at Grace Dieu/St Michael's Soni)

- the link at the top left hand side of this link works for me though :


http://devrijecultureleruimte.nl/Group22.html


Highly recommended and bloody heart-breaking.

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Post  Freedom on Thu 26 Oct 2017, 11:08 am

I saw that programme at the time. Here is an easier link.

https://vimeo.com/53945691
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Post  Freedom on Fri 03 Nov 2017, 10:02 pm

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Post  candyfloss on Sun 10 Dec 2017, 11:02 am

Max Clifford in 'critical condition' after suffering heart attack......

Disgraced former publicist Max Clifford 'critical after cardiac arrest'
The 74-year-old reportedly collapses in his jail cell while serving an eight-year sentence for historic sex offences

https://news.sky.com/story/disgraced-former-publicist-max-clifford-critical-after-cardiac-arrest-11164698

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Post  Heisenburg on Sun 10 Dec 2017, 1:07 pm

On the 1pm beeb news he's died.
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Post  Freedom on Sun 10 Dec 2017, 1:10 pm

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Post  candyfloss on Mon 11 Dec 2017, 9:46 pm

Seeing as he is appearing on this thread, I will put this here for now..


Max Clifford, king of fake news


To write this anecdotally charged blog about Max Clifford, the celebrity publicist and convicted sexual predator who died yesterday, is to contravene two conventions that he would have little time for himself.

The first, brilliantly parodied by Private Eye in their "The [insert famous name] I knew" and "Farewell, then [insert famous name]" skits, is that treating someone's death as an opportunity to parade your own dealings with them is the very height of vanity. The second is that we do not speak ill of the dead.

Alas that second convention is often motivated by the desire among bad people to protect their legacy, and in fact we should speak of the dead as we speak of the living: that is, judiciously. As for the first, well, it is always a privilege to be of interest to Private Eye.

Max Clifford was an ambassador for a vanished era who used his journalistic nous, courage, and sheer malice to become a giant of post-war British culture. Not bad, you might argue, for the son of a Surrey electrician addicted to gambling and alcohol, and a mother - described by her son as "fat, jolly and flatulent"- who on occasion pawned her wedding rings so that the family might be fed.

For all that tough upbringing, and for all the work he did for charities and indeed his reportedly exemplary raising of his daughter Louise, who had a disability, at its core Clifford's dealings were, like Iago's, driven by one thing - filth.



'Good honest filth'


Clifford died after being taken ill in prison, where he was serving eight years for the sexual abuse of women and girls as young as 14. He was appealing against all of his convictions, and told all who asked that he was confident of clearing his name. This point has been widely reported, as has the fact that much of the trial centred on the length of his penis, and his boasts thereof.

Less widely reported is a point made by the presiding judge, who said that had the offences taken place after 2003, when the law changed, he would have been tried for rape.

As a reporter many years ago, I called him on several occasions to corroborate stories. (I never, as far as I can remember, dealt with him as an Editor). It is a curious fact that every single one of the perhaps dozen conversations we had on the phone proceeded by the same trajectory.

Clifford would be in his house in Surrey. We would exchange pleasantries. I would say I had a story concerning some individual he represented. He would listen attentively, it seemed - then say he couldn't talk about the subject, either because he had signed a hugely lucrative contract with a tabloid, or was about to. Then, like a master novelist - and Clifford was nothing if not a legendary story-teller - he would drop a hint that, actually, there was something he could perhaps mention to me.

This ability to make journalists feel special, and that they are getting morsels of information nobody else knows, is one of the most important skills a PR can have, and Clifford was supreme at it.

After mentioning he might be able to talk about the subject at hand, he would always - always - make me hold the line for three of four minutes, as he wandered round his Surrey home attending to some domestic matters. I once heard him ask a workman if he wanted jam on his toast. Another time, I remember him asking for a kettle to be turned on; and once he said something inaudible to a person cleaning his car.

This delay was designed, of course, to heighten the anticipation for his interlocutor. A junior reporter - indeed, this junior reporter - would think 'Blimey, Max Clifford is about to give me a story'. Instead, with what became totally predictable intonation, he would pour poison in my ear, almost always about women.
Image copyright AFP/GETTY Image caption Max Clifford negotiated with tabloid newspapers on behalf of Faria Alam. The former secretary at the Football Asociation revealed her affair with with England Football Manager Sven Goran Eriksson.
Clifford would preface every single sentence with "Off the record", before saying something vile about a public figure on the wrong side of him. I heard him be abusive about Sharon Osbourne. I clearly remember he called both Faria Alam, who he was representing after her affair with Sven Goran Eriksson, and Victoria Beckham "slut".

That was after he sold the story of an alleged affair between David Beckham and Rebecca Loos to the News of the World. Amazingly, he later claimed that if Beckham had come to him first, he would have killed the story by telling him to lend his phone to a friend, who would have been paid to lie that he had sent the incriminating text messages.

Time and again, his messaging to me, a junior reporter, was about women being unclean, or cheap. Like Donald Trump, another boastful sexual predator, he seemed fanatical about the idea of female purity. Trump referred to an interviewer's menstruation. With Clifford, the talk would often turn to vaginas and clitorises.

I never met the guy. But I wasn't surprised to read him describe, in memoirs that shamelessly chronicled his sexual exploitation of vulnerable people, that the sex parties he organised for celebrities in the 1960s and 1970s were "good honest filth".

Hypocrite


This is the context in which to see the ludicrous claims that he made on behalf of his own public service. Clifford raised money for charity and the profile of several charities. But given he was a compulsive liar, it is hard to know precisely how much he did, and for whom. What we do know is that most of the claims he made for himself were absurd, and render him a hypocrite.

Clifford claimed to be a lifelong socialist. But he made millions of pounds by exploiting people often desperate for money. He deluded himself that it was his story about the Tory MP David Mellor having sex in a Chelsea kit (a lie) that tarnished the Tories' reputation for probity. In other words, that by associating them with sleaze, he got them out of government. But Clifford's motivation wasn't cleaner government - it was a bigger pay cheque, for himself.

He claimed to be a champion of women's dignity, giving a voice to the voiceless and ensuring that their story was heard. But he died in jail after being convicted of sexual abuse, in crimes that were they committed later might have been considered rape.

And just as he pretended, with his Surrey socialist credentials, to be a friend of the poor, so Clifford pretended to be a great ally of British journalism, feeding it with countless stories that titillated the masses and rescued them from the quotidian tedium of their otherwise miserable lives.

But by promoting lying on an industrial scale, Clifford was in fact an enemy of the most fundamental values any proper journalist should hold dear, and did more than most to create the culture of distrust toward the media which now corrodes our democracy.

Liar, liar


It would be hard to overstate the extent to which Clifford grew wealthy by making stuff up. At least he acknowledged it.

"I learnt early on that by colouring [adding spicy details to stories], you get the big coverage… I was always instinctively good at lying," he once said. Another time, he told the Oxford Union, "Every day, every week, every month, a lot of the lies you see in newspapers, in the magazines, on television, on radio, are mine."
Image copyright News International Image caption The Sun's Freddie Starr 'scoop'. It turned out the story was a hoax.
He claimed, falsely, to have been instrumental in launching the Beatles. Freddie Starr obviously never ate the notorious hamster owned by his girlfriend. Derek Hatton, the Militant socialist, didn't have an affair with the actress Katie Baring. The list of Clifford's lies goes on, and on. And on and on.

Why does this matter? If millions are entertained through scurrilous tales, and the only cost of it is a few pompous celebs lose their shine, or marriage, so what if the Max Cliffords of this world get rich along the way?

That would be a naïve and dangerous way to understand the culture he represented.

We are living through a crisis of trust in many of our institutions - not least the media. This has been accentuated by the phenomenon of fake news, which though it's nothing new, has heightened suspicion that journalists are crooks.

The crisis of trust in media is largely the fault of journalists, who have made a habit of missing big stories, and who still fail to speak for many of the disenfranchised and alienated. But it has other causes too, from technology, which makes it easier to disseminate lies to a vast audience in just a few seconds, to an erosion of the cultural value of truth.

One reason fake news isn't a bigger phenomenon in Britain is that we've had "post-truth" for decades - for as long as Clifford has plied his trade, and even before.

It naturally seems pompous, self-regarding, even a bit twee for journalists to harp on about the importance of truth, as if not just our careers but our lives depended on it. Yet a civilised society cannot proceed unless there are commonly agreed facts. That can only happen if untruths are weighed against the available evidence.

For Clifford, however, evidence was a costly distraction. He spent his entire career fabricating stories in service not of truth, or justice, but his own bank balance. In that way, he helped create a culture in which you could boast "don't believe everything you read" - and be right to say so, because liars like Clifford were preying on your attention.

The culture around Clifford is gone too, of course. Tabloids still have huge power, but with diminished readerships in print, they aren't the force of yore, and their online versions face unprecedented competition.

And since the Leveson Inquiry, kiss-and-tell celebrity stories are less prevalent. Clifford knew that, like all geniuses, his career and talents were perfectly aligned with the emergence of a culture that he came to personify.

We're not meant to speak ill of the dead. But if you believe in journalism, the integrity of the public domain, or the very idea of truth at a time when it is becoming unfashionable, you have to see that in this supposed king of spin you had a lifelong enemy. And that's assuming you're not one of the women he exploited sexually as a teenager.



Max Clifford was no friend of journalism.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42310431

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Post  Freedom on Mon 18 Dec 2017, 10:35 am

I'll put this one here as, despite the showbiz gossip element to it, it also relates to a case in my opinion of a false accusation of sexual abuse which could have ruined his life completely. Good luck to him.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/celebrity/coronation-streets-michael-le-vell-engaged-to-girlfriend-who-stood-by-him-as-he-battled-to-turn-life-around/ar-BBGW0jL?li=AAnZ9Ug&ocid=mailsignout
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