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Post  Cristobell on Tue 16 Sep 2014, 10:07 pm

wlbts wrote:I'm certain they won't be arrested on live TV, as much as I would like that to be the case!  However, I'm fairly sure the end is coming soon, nigh even Smile



True, thats most unlikely, but they must be under a huge amount of pressure - they will be screened alongside genuine parents and families of murder victims, and their own behaviour will no doubt be compared and scrutinised. In 7 years they have not been able to put on a single convincing display of grief, and all that practice hasn't helped.

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Post  Dee Coy on Tue 16 Sep 2014, 10:09 pm

I'm definitely intrigued to observe their behaviour tonight. Is it live or pre-recorded?

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Post  Cristobell on Tue 16 Sep 2014, 10:36 pm

Dee Coy wrote:I'm definitely intrigued to observe their behaviour tonight. Is it live or pre-recorded?


Any normal people would be quaking in their boots at appearing on Crimewatch in their circumstances - indeed how can we forget the iconic photograph of them with the efits in the background, so maybe they were (are, if it is live, though unlikely). Kate hates having to repeat stuff, she becomes visibility irritated when asked about details of the night and v.shifty when asked to speak to Madeleine directly.

As I say, normal people would have a nervous breakdown at the mere thought of it, but these two are unbelievable in so many ways!

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Post  Guest on Tue 16 Sep 2014, 11:14 pm

oh well, Redders looking tanned and healthy and with a hint of a smile said millions watched the appeal and thousands phoned in and from some they got leads.

Mcs commented on the success of the appeal.

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Post  Andrew on Tue 16 Sep 2014, 11:16 pm

Was that it then.. All 30 seconds worth.

Only thing to note was that Kate looks haggered.
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Post  Guest on Tue 16 Sep 2014, 11:24 pm

Redwood said 'disappearance of Madeleine McCann' again, not abduction.

Gerry as smug as ever, kidding on that he has information he doesn't.

Oh, and Redwood briefly mentioned 'false reports' in the media. Can't remember the exact wording.

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Post  TheTruthWillOut on Tue 16 Sep 2014, 11:27 pm

This is just a normal episode that had a 30th anniversary feature. Not what I was expecting.

A bit of detail from Redwood about the case/appeal but Jill Dando got just a token mention and no detail/update on the case. Pretty poor from the BBC.
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Post  Dee Coy on Tue 16 Sep 2014, 11:28 pm

Sigh. Footage showed the reconstruction of Tannerman again walking accross the end of the street carrying the child horizontally. The infamous drawing of Tannerman was also shown behind Redwood's head as he he was asked about the 10pm sighting and again after the footage of him walking was shown - a full screen shot! No mention of Crechman eliminating him or footage of Smithman.

Anyone not seeing the original CW would infer that Tannerman is still in the frame and in fact the main focus for OG.

Condoned by Redwood?

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Post  Guest on Tue 16 Sep 2014, 11:40 pm

wlbts wrote:Redwood said 'disappearance of Madeleine McCann' again, not abduction.

Gerry as smug as ever, kidding on that he has information he doesn't.

Oh, and Redwood briefly mentioned 'false reports' in the media.  Can't remember the exact wording.

IK can't remember his exact words but what came next was stuff re Tanner sighting iirc, although Smithman was not mentioned AR seemed again to be saying the man seen by JT was not the man they want.

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Post  Cristobell on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 12:01 am

Dee Coy wrote:Sigh. Footage showed the reconstruction of Tannerman again walking accross the end of the street carrying the child horizontally. The infamous drawing of Tannerman was also shown behind Redwood's head as he he was asked about the 10pm sighting and again after the footage of him walking was shown - a full screen shot! No mention of Crechman eliminating him or footage of Smithman.

Anyone not seeing the original CW would infer that Tannerman is still in the frame and in fact the main focus for OG.

Condoned by Redwood?


DCI Redwood said they got thousands of calls and some good leads following the Crimewatch program last October. Significantly he did not appeal for any further information on Tannerman or Smithman, or indeed on any aspect of the missing Madeleine case. Perhaps they have all they need?

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Post  KathyBelle on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 12:12 am

Cristobell wrote:
Dee Coy wrote:Sigh. Footage showed the reconstruction of Tannerman again walking accross the end of the street carrying the child horizontally. The infamous drawing of Tannerman was also shown behind Redwood's head as he he was asked about the 10pm sighting and again after the footage of him walking was shown - a full screen shot! No mention of Crechman eliminating him or footage of Smithman.

Anyone not seeing the original CW would infer that Tannerman is still in the frame and in fact the main focus for OG.

Condoned by Redwood?


DCI Redwood said they got thousands of calls and some good leads following the Crimewatch program last October.  Significantly he did not appeal for any further information on Tannerman or Smithman, or indeed on any aspect of the missing Madeleine case.  Perhaps they have all they need?

Hello Linda  flower

Ever since Redwood took over the review/ investigation, he has been telling the media what he and his team are doing to solve the case. What exactly has Redwood and his team done to solve this case? I know they conducted digs in the vicinity of the McCanns apartment and I know that nothing was found in these digs, that had anything to do with Madeleine's disappearance. Since then they've done nothing, if they had you can bet your life that Redwood would have been spouting off to the media.

In my opinion, someone with a backbone needs to take over the investigation.


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Post  Cristobell on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 12:13 am

Russian Doll wrote: oh well, Redders looking tanned and healthy and with a hint of a smile said millions watched the appeal and thousands phoned in and from some they got leads.

Mcs commented on the success of the appeal.




I think the McCanns looked very tanned, Kate especially, perhaps they have just returned from holiday?

The McCanns seemed a bit out of place with the other historic cases Crimewatch presented in that it has not yet reached a conclusion - at the moment its wide open. I felt DCI Redwood was very slow and deliberate in telling us they had received thousands of calls following their appeal for Smithman, almost as if he were bursting to tell us he knows it is. And as WLBTS mmentioned, Gerry was pretending he to know more than he did, and failing miserably.

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Re: McCanns on Crimewatch - 16th September 2014

Post  Dee Coy on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 12:20 am


Cristobell wrote:
Dee Coy wrote:Sigh. Footage showed the reconstruction of Tannerman again walking accross the end of the street carrying the child horizontally. The infamous drawing of Tannerman was also shown behind Redwood's head as he he was asked about the 10pm sighting and again after the footage of him walking was shown - a full screen shot! No mention of Crechman eliminating him or footage of Smithman.

Anyone not seeing the original CW would infer that Tannerman is still in the frame and in fact the main focus for OG.

Condoned by Redwood?


DCI Redwood said they got thousands of calls and some good leads following the Crimewatch program last October.  Significantly he did not appeal for any further information on Tannerman or Smithman, or indeed on any aspect of the missing Madeleine case.  Perhaps they have all they need?


Thousands of calls recognizing Smithman I'll bet. SY already had all they needed I'm sure. The reason for last year's CW was to publicly eliminate Tannerman.

So why did the BBC show footage of the Tannerman reconstruction tonight, accompanied by his picture in the backgroud while Redwood was shown discussing the 10 o clock sighting and then a full-screen coloured picture of the iconic Tannerman picture?

McCanns suggestion in exchange for their role as an audience grabber?

Smithman - OGs main focus was conspicuous by his absence tonight, at the expense of the suspect CW went to all the trouble of getting rid of a year ago! Can't just be sloppy editing, surely?

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Re: McCanns on Crimewatch - 16th September 2014

Post  cherry on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 12:46 am

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Redwood - this case has over the years since Maddie disappeared has been the subject of intense media coverage and some of that coverage has not been factually accurate. We had the opportunity to carefully piece together the timeline in terms of the information and evidence that we accumulated and then to be able to reach out to the public helping them to relive that moment.

Kirsty - and lets focus on 10pm lets focus on this sighting and you tell me whats important and what people watching..

Redwood - on the night of the television broadcast on Crimewatch it was an unprecedented event for us, you know the public watched the programme in their millions and called in their thousands and amongst all that information we got some really interesting leads.

Kate - on the day that the programme went out we were actually in the studios and were able to witness a lot of the calls coming in and as soon as the appeal started the phones started ringing.

Gerry - I was quite surprised after the length of time since (couldnt make out some words) multiple appeals could we get anything more but clearly the format of the programme, the way the information was delivered meant people who had really relevant information came forward.

During the programme it was also mentioned about reconstructions and that wherever possible filming takes place in the actual locations where crimes have happened.

Commander Neil Basu said there is nothing more important than having accuracy in the reconstructions, they've got to be as close as possible with what we think are the facts of the case.

It was also mentioned that reconstructions can be a powerful way of telling viewers about victims and the events leading up to a crime. They can also reach out to people who may not otherwise come forward with information.
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Post  cherry on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 12:48 am

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Post  Guest on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 9:22 am

Dee Coy, Redwood was clear about errors which were compounded by media reporting, this ref imo to Tanner sighting. The time mentioned by K Young was 10 pm . No e fit of Smithman shown, not needed imo

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Post  Guest on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 9:36 am

Redwood - 'this case has over the years since Maddie disappeared has been the subject of intense media coverage and some of that coverage has not been factually accurate. We had the opportunity to carefully piece together the timeline in terms of the information and evidence that we accumulated and then to be able to reach out to the public helping them to relive that moment.'

He's usually very careful in his wording, but it seems clear to me that he was looking for evidence relating to a single moment.

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Post  Guest on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 9:45 am

He appears to be ref the Smithman sighting. Does Redwood have info that Smiths were maybe not the only ones to have seen the man and child and he is appealing for others who might have been in the area to come forward?

How likely is it that in that area at that time there were on the streets only Smithman, child and the Smiths?

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Post  Guest on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 9:47 am

Russian Doll wrote: He appears to be ref the Smithman sighting. Does Redwood have info that Smiths were maybe not the only ones to have seen the man and child and he is appealing for others who might have been in the area to come forward?

How likely is it that in that area at that time there were on the streets only Smithman, child and the Smiths?

He appears to be happy with the new information he got, whatever that was. He certainly hasn't asked for more information since October last year.

Fingers crossed Smile

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Post  Guest on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 9:54 am

I Imagine he has it all worked out, probably has done for quite some time, now he just needs the evidence to back up his theory and independent witnesses would play a vital role in that evidence. DCI Redwood certainly seems very focused on that particular time and sighting, perhaps though he is working back from the tapas bar...who exactly was sitting at the table at specific times, and who was not.

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Post  Guest on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 10:21 am

wlbts wrote:Redwood said 'disappearance of Madeleine McCann' again, not abduction.

Gerry as smug as ever, kidding on that he has information he doesn't.

Oh, and Redwood briefly mentioned 'false reports' in the media.  Can't remember the exact wording.


I would perceive that as a negative for the truth to be honest. It would seem they are willing to change opinion accordingly to suit...
An abduction means what it is.....Now a disappearance gives them many outs....Well thats how I see it.

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Post  Poe on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 10:40 am

Thank you to everybody who has described the McCann bit on Crimewatch.

My recording failed so I tried to download it but it has taken a couple of hours to download 50% of the programme and it has no sound Rolling Eyes

Anyway, from the comments on here, it doesn't look like I missed much.

Despite having the perfect platform to announce their innocence, Mr Redwood has still not formally exonerated the McCanns so I see no reason not to remain optimistic.
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Post  Guest on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 10:44 am

Thanks cherry for the transcription cheers

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Post  Freedom on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 10:45 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04j5j8g/crimewatch-16092014

It's available for 6 days.
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Re: McCanns on Crimewatch - 16th September 2014

Post  cherry on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 12:31 pm

Interesting interview with Kirsty Young regarding the special Crimewatch programme - look how many times she mentions Murder when making reference to the Mccanns.

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2014-09-16/kirsty-young-we-are-confronting-our-worst-fears-when-we-watch-crimewatch
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