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Post  Poe on Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:13 am

Don't Forget Madeleine wrote:
PeterMac wrote:So they were pumping money INTO the account which should have been there in the first place
and now Mitchell is saying they have been taking money OUT to put in a Fund to Search for Madeleine, which is what the "Fund" was for in the first place

My guess is that Grange have found them with their hands in the till, and this is a pathetic pre-emptive defence strategy.

Al Capone, anyone ?

It also makes you wonder where they are getting the money from to fight their battles against GA, unless someone is funding them to the tune of £hundreds of thousands.  Is that why money is being moved around in their accounts, probably from an offshore account into an account for fighting GA on the premise that it is yet another account for "searching for Madeleine".

Hypothetically, If Kate donated £100,000 of "her own" money to Missing People, the charity would be able to claim £25,000 in Gift Aid (https://www.gov.uk/claim-gift-aid/overview). If the charity then made a donation to the fund of £112,500, both the McCann fund and Missing People would be better off to the tune of £12,500.

A scam worthy of Al Capone himself but pure speculation on my part.
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Post  Andrew on Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:16 am

The news of this 'McCann money moving from accounts' came out first.. A Mitchell pre-empt or a blunder.

The general masses, when read this are obviously appalled. Massive own goal.

So straight away they swing it round to OG wasting money to now shift the focus on that, which again cheeses off the general masses.

The Mc's do think OG is a waste of space though in the "money in another account to continue with the search, when OG winds down" remark.

The Mc's hate OG and they know they're closing in.

Imo.
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Post  Poe on Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:35 am

Andrew wrote:The news of this 'McCann money moving from accounts' came out first.. A Mitchell pre-empt or a blunder.

The general masses, when read this are obviously appalled. Massive own goal.

So straight away they swing it round to OG wasting money to now shift the focus on that, which again cheeses off the general masses.

The Mc's do think OG is a waste of space though in the "money in another account to continue with the search, when OG winds down" remark.

The Mc's hate OG and they know they're closing in.

Imo.

You've missed one possibility.

What if Clarence Mitchell has switched sides?

He's not going to blow the whole case apart because the McCanns are still paying him but he might make the odd "blunder" here or there. If CM is only able to save one neck from the approaching storm, I guarantee it will be his own. If the situation becomes critical, he will sacrifice K&G to save himself.

Just speculating.

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Post  Andrew on Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:49 am

Good point and I agree.

Always said he will save his own sorry arse when the time comes to it.

Maybe that time is now then.
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Post  costello on Mon 07 Sep 2015, 12:53 pm

Poe wrote:
Andrew wrote:The news of this 'McCann money moving from accounts' came out first.. A Mitchell pre-empt or a blunder.

The general masses, when read this are obviously appalled. Massive own goal.

So straight away they swing it round to OG wasting money to now shift the focus on that, which again cheeses off the general masses.

The Mc's do think OG is a waste of space though in the "money in another account to continue with the search, when OG winds down" remark.

The Mc's hate OG and they know they're closing in.

Imo.

You've missed one possibility.

What if Clarence Mitchell has switched sides?

He's not going to blow the whole case apart because the McCanns are still paying him but he might make the odd "blunder" here or there. If CM  is only able to save one neck from the approaching storm, I guarantee it will be his own. If the situation becomes critical, he will sacrifice K&G to save himself.

Just speculating.


I've never been sure of what side Clarence Mitchell is actually on. I really can't see him taking a fall for the Mccanns.
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Post  Andrew on Mon 07 Sep 2015, 12:59 pm

His side was where the cash was at first.

Got handsomely paid to lie and invent. 

His side now may well of changed (and was always going to at some point).

No I in team. 

Mitchell is all about the I. 

Himself. All himself. 

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Post  margaret on Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:23 pm

Poe wrote:
Don't Forget Madeleine wrote:
PeterMac wrote:So they were pumping money INTO the account which should have been there in the first place
and now Mitchell is saying they have been taking money OUT to put in a Fund to Search for Madeleine, which is what the "Fund" was for in the first place

My guess is that Grange have found them with their hands in the till, and this is a pathetic pre-emptive defence strategy.

Al Capone, anyone ?

It also makes you wonder where they are getting the money from to fight their battles against GA, unless someone is funding them to the tune of £hundreds of thousands.  Is that why money is being moved around in their accounts, probably from an offshore account into an account for fighting GA on the premise that it is yet another account for "searching for Madeleine".

Hypothetically, If Kate donated £100,000 of "her own" money to Missing People, the charity would be able to claim £25,000 in Gift Aid (https://www.gov.uk/claim-gift-aid/overview). If the charity then made a donation to the fund of £112,500, both the McCann fund and Missing People would be better off to the tune of £12,500.

A scam worthy of Al Capone himself but pure speculation on my part.

No, you've got it Poe. I'd put money (plus gift aid Wink ) on that scenario.
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Post  TheTruthWillOut on Tue 08 Sep 2015, 12:19 am

I can't trust a so called charity that seems to use a PO Box for its address. Yet employs 60 people.

That may be unfair but I've become extremely skeptical of [i]all[i] charities these days.
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Post  joyce1938 on Tue 08 Sep 2015, 1:32 pm

Can anyone recall the name of a man who told maccies that he would continue his support tothe fund ,for the whole time ? could it have been kennedy ? Just I am pretty certain someone did say this ,so long ago maybe not spoken about on line of late ? joyce1938
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Post  Guest on Tue 08 Sep 2015, 1:43 pm

TheTruthWillOut wrote:I can't trust a so called charity that seems to use a PO Box for its address. Yet employs 60 people.

That may be unfair but I've become extremely skeptical of [i]all[i] charities these days.

I was in my local bank yesterday making a transaction with the lady behind the counter and my eyes wondered to a container with business like cards in it.  I had a look (out of nosiness and boredom as she was taking so long) only to find it was the bl**dy Child Alert thing.  I turned it over and there and behold was the Missing People logo as well as some others which I didn't bother to look at as I was enraged that my bank was advertising the Missing People charity.  I nearly said to the lady, these need throwing away as the charity seems to be one big scam imo with most of their profits going to pay for outrageous staff salaries, but as it wasn't her fault so I let it go.

I think a letter to my bank's head office will be on it's way very shortly.

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Post  candyfloss on Tue 08 Sep 2015, 1:58 pm

joyce1938 wrote:Can anyone recall the name of a man who told maccies that he would continue his support tothe  fund ,for the whole time ? could it have been kennedy ?  Just  I am pretty certain someone did say this ,so long ago maybe not spoken about on line of late ? joyce1938

I do recall that joyce1938 from a while ago, but whilst searching for it came across this which is almost the opposite..

Maddie search aid cut

THE tycoon helping to bankroll the McCanns’ search for their missing daughter Madeleine has cut back his support.

Published 8th June 2009

Brian Kennedy, 49, has lost an estimated £50million in the credit crunch and has stopped paying for their media campaign.




But the McCanns’ spokesman Clarence Mitchell said the double-glazing millionaire continued to provide some financial assistance to the investigation.




He said: “I am not at liberty to discuss financial matters relating to the investigation but I will continue in my role.”




Last night, Mr Kennedy’s lawyer Ed Smethurst confirmed they were no longer paying Mr Mitchell’s salary directly.


http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/83926/Maddie-search-aid-cut

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Post  Andrew on Tue 08 Sep 2015, 2:53 pm

Makes you wonder why they were paying his (Mitchell) salary in the first place.

Always been puzzled by that.
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Post  Freedom on Tue 08 Sep 2015, 3:33 pm

A recent mention of another businessman who has more money than he knows what to do with.

http://maddiemccannmystery.forumotion.co.uk/t851-child-rescue-alert-at-stobo
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Post  Guest on Tue 08 Sep 2015, 3:38 pm

Freedom wrote:A recent mention of another businessman who has more money than he knows what to do with.

http://maddiemccannmystery.forumotion.co.uk/t851-child-rescue-alert-at-stobo

It's frightening seeing that the McCanns have never been cleared in a court of law, although not found guilty either.

They could be harboring a terrible secret regarding what happened to Madeleine but they seem to be lauded over and looked on as saints for missing children, without anyone knowing the real reason behind Madeleine's disappearance.

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Post  joyce1938 on Tue 08 Sep 2015, 4:46 pm

thanks candyfloss for your reply , I am glad I haven't dreampt this . It seems so long since all this started ,its easy to know ,have I got this correct. funny really some things just lie in ones minds . no matter what comes out ,it seems nothing new it all goes round and around . Now we are desperately looking for photo shop works ,will it ever end ? joyce1938
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Post  Andrew on Wed 09 Sep 2015, 6:25 am

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/463742/Madeline-McCann-Ben-Needham-police-probe

Ben Needham's mum blasts police over £11m spent on hunt for Madeleine McCann

THE mum of missing tot Ben Needham has blasted the £11million police hunt for Madeleine McCann.

By Matthew Young / Published 8th September 2015
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LOST: Ben Needham went missing on holiday in 1991 and Madeline went missing in 2007
Investigators have spent the whopping amount searching for Maddie, who disappeared in Portugal aged three in 2007.

But Kerry Needham, whose son Ben vanished 24 years ago in Greece, says it is unfair the huge sum has been splurged – while just £800,000 has been spent on trying to find her missing lad.


"My heart goes out to the McCanns – having a child go missing is an indescribable pain," said Kerry, 43.

"There is no closure and you miss them every day. But I don’t understand why the investigation has received so much – £11m is unprecedented.

"It seems unfair when other missing children aren’t getting as much attention."

Little Ben vanished in 1991 outside a farmhouse his grandparents were renovating on the island of Kos, while his mum was at work.

His family searched the area for the toddler, aged 20 months, but he was never found.

“I don’t understand why the investigation has received so much - £11m is unprecedented”
Kerry Needham
Kerry says she has pleaded with the Government for more help in finding her boy.

She said: "I’ve come up against so much resistance from the Home Office when I've asked for help finding Ben.

"Kate and Gerry will never want to give up searching for Maddie, but there have been no arrests and there don’t seem to be any leads.

"It seems the police have done all they can - which isn’t the case with Ben.

"There is still hope for Ben. Even this year, police have uncovered information that has led to new lines of inquiry."

She claims at the time of his disappearance nobody from the British Embassy met her and no UK cops were flown to the Greek island.
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Post  TheTruthWillOut on Wed 09 Sep 2015, 9:03 am

Reads like a rehashed story to me Andrew...though it looks like the press themselves are fed up of the 9 months of silence since Nicola Wall took over.
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Post  Andrew on Wed 09 Sep 2015, 11:15 am

I agree, it is a rehashed story but for some reason they've decided to run it again.

I think it's another Team McCann ploy to try and get OG shut down and get Joe public on side saying it has to stop and not fair etc etc.
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Post  dogs don't lie on Wed 09 Sep 2015, 11:43 am

I'm with you on that too Andrew,
If someone from the UK wanted to get the Portugal investigation closed, is there some way to try or would it be out of their hands?

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Post  Andrew on Wed 09 Sep 2015, 11:51 am

I can't see how they can/could.

That won't happen no matter how much Team Mccann want it.

OG won't stop either. They won't have spent all that money and then tell the world we don't know what we're doing so shutting up shop.

As much as Team McCann would like that as well.
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Post  dogs don't lie on Wed 09 Sep 2015, 12:13 pm

Thanks Andrew, I'm sure someone would have tried to end the PJ investigation if they had a means to do so, so they mustn't have thankfully. So we have two investigations on the go, the PJ which nothing can be done (someone must be bricking it) and OG which IMO they're trying to end (again someone must be bricking it)

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Post  Andrew on Wed 09 Sep 2015, 12:19 pm

Without doubt there are people bricking it.

Quite a lot too, I would think.
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Post  Poe on Wed 09 Sep 2015, 12:27 pm

I worry for Kerry Needham.

I can understand why she would allow Ben's disappearance be allied with Madeleine's disappearance because any publicity is better than no publicity but there is a risk that Ben's case could be caught up in any backlash against the McCanns.


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Post  Andrew on Wed 09 Sep 2015, 1:13 pm

I see your point, Poe, but I can't envisage any sort of backlash against Kerry / Ben Needham at all.

There is certainly a backlash developing against the Mc's though. 

The public perception is turning against them and that's what fears them the most. (apart from getting arrested and convicted)
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Post  candyfloss on Wed 09 Sep 2015, 2:55 pm

Now this

Met Police considers scrapping 1,000 neighbourhood PCSOs

The Met is considering scrapping all 1,000 Police Community Support Officers (PCSOs) working in neighbourhoods in London, the BBC understands
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-34200384

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