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Post  Andrew on Mon 13 Jun 2016, 5:49 pm

.... so who did kill Carl. Still not seen the doc and not heard of the case before until started the thread...
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Post  Freedom on Mon 13 Jun 2016, 6:09 pm

The man in the programme, Bert Spencer, was the original suspect but he was thought to have a cast-iron alibi. Four known criminals were later convicted of the murder but eventually cleared, though not before one of them had died in prison.

Spencer spent 14 years in prison for another murder a year later very near to the first one. The case against him is circumstantial and I don't suppose he will ever be charged with it.
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Post  Andrew on Mon 13 Jun 2016, 6:20 pm

Do you think Bert did it then.....
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Post  Freedom on Mon 13 Jun 2016, 6:28 pm

Only my opinion of course - but yes.
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Post  Andrew on Mon 13 Jun 2016, 7:39 pm

From what read about it (in a very short time), then he (Bert) does seem the prime suspect.
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Post  Freedom on Mon 13 Jun 2016, 9:42 pm

I don't understand the alibi issue. His secretary at first said that he had been in the hospital where he worked all day but later said that he could have left at some time without her knowing.  

However, he was an ambulance driver so why would it have been accepted originally that he was there all day?
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Post  joyce1938 on Mon 13 Jun 2016, 11:28 pm

Yes he did admit that he took a lunch break ,I THINK freedom ,but he was having to rehash things . His first wife said it all ,and he had no real alibi for the times and he knew ,that she knew ,she spille the beans .So I think now he will have something more to answer to.The chap that did the programn pointed out so many things to him,,and he just kept looking him straight in the eyes that and was a bit threatening towards that chap . He sure did a good job on working out in each situation ,and questioned him over again . We shall hear more of this I think. joyce1938
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Post  Freedom on Tue 14 Jun 2016, 8:13 am

The murder though was somewhere around 4 p m - not in the lunch hour.
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The Louise Woodward case

Post  Freedom on Wed 06 Jul 2016, 9:39 am

I've been reminded of this case today with the way that the murder verdict on Oscar Pistorius looks as if it may be overturned.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Woodward_case

There were absolute hysteria on the part of the British media when Louise was originally convicted of second-degree murder. They had all been painting a picture of her as an innocent abroad at the mercy of a corrupt legal system.

The conviction was later changed to involuntary manslaughter and Louise was freed.
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Post  Freedom on Wed 06 Jul 2016, 10:29 am

Sentences here of more than 20 years for another evil pair.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-36722114#"
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Post  Andrew on Wed 06 Jul 2016, 10:36 am

Evil disgusting horrible pair. Rot in hell.

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A significant case review is being carried out into the circumstances leading up to Liam's death after a number of witnesses told the trial they had raised concerns about the toddler's health and wellbeing with social services.

... and will anything be done about it and will anyone be held accountable.

Of course they won't.
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The case of Poppi Worthington

Post  Andrew on Thu 14 Jul 2016, 4:47 pm

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Poppi Worthington

Post  PMR on Thu 14 Jul 2016, 10:49 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-36784681
This is horrendous. This 13 month old baby died suddenly of 'severe injuries ' Even a judge has said he feels her father sexually assaulted her. Her father denies this and is in hiding
However because of a series of failings by Cumbria Police it is unlikely he will face a trial
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Post  Andrew on Thu 14 Jul 2016, 11:46 pm

So agree, PMR. Sickening is this. It really is.
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Post  Freedom on Sat 16 Jul 2016, 4:04 pm

Another case - this time from 1982.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-36804977
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Re: Miscellaneous Criminal Cases

Post  Châtelaine on Sat 16 Jul 2016, 4:54 pm

I'm translating a Dutch saying into English, hopefully properly: God's mills grind slowly, but effectively ...
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Re: Miscellaneous Criminal Cases

Post  bluebell on Sat 16 Jul 2016, 5:15 pm

Châtelaine wrote:I'm translating a Dutch saying into English, hopefully properly: God's mills grind slowly, but effectively ...



It is from Longellow Chatelaine. "Though the mills of God grind slowly, they grind exceeding small.
Though with patience He stands waiting, with exactness grinds He all"


Very apt. j xx

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Post  Châtelaine on Sat 16 Jul 2016, 9:49 pm

Thank you for a proper translation, a bit more elaborate than the Dutch one, but says it all ... whilst we're waiting for justice.
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Post  Andrew on Mon 18 Jul 2016, 2:58 pm

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Swingers party death

Post  dogs don't lie on Mon 25 Jul 2016, 9:47 am

Body found and several injured at 'swingers' house party event in Surrey mansion

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mans-body-found-several-injured-8487233#ICID=ios_TMNewsApp_AppShare_Click_Other

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Post  Andrew on Mon 25 Jul 2016, 10:38 am

Sounds like a fight broke out. Jealous rage influenced by drink and drugs no doubt.
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Post  Freedom on Mon 25 Jul 2016, 11:10 am

This reminds me of an incident at the home of Diana Dors which my mother told me about; she wasn't there I hasten to add.

From what I recall, someone drowned during a swapping party so it was an accidental death rather than murder in this current story.

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Post  Andrew on Mon 25 Jul 2016, 2:57 pm

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Post  Andrew on Mon 25 Jul 2016, 3:18 pm

The Cock Inn pub situated next to the Swingers party.

You couldn't make it up.
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