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Post  bluebell on Thu 29 Dec 2016, 11:59 pm

Remember Becky Watts, the young girl killed and butchered by her stepbrother? No dna there either, even though he used a chain saw in his bathroom. pale
Was said he probably covered the walls with cling film and possibly did a bit of new plumbing too. No

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Post  Andrew on Fri 30 Dec 2016, 12:08 am

bluebell wrote:Remember Becky Watts, the young girl killed and butchered by her stepbrother?    No dna there either, even though he used a chain saw in his bathroom.     pale
Was said he probably covered the walls with cling film and possibly did a bit of new plumbing too.       No

Yes, I remember the case well. I say well, I can't recall the details you mentioned.

Horrific stuff.
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The Groene family murders

Post  Freedom on Tue 03 Jan 2017, 9:40 am

I'd never heard of this case until by chance I found a video about it on YouTube.

That doesn't seem to be available now but here's a fairly recent update on the sole survivor from a family of five.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3297389/Woman-moves-10-years-surviving-two-month-captivity-man-murdered-family-Survivor-expecting-miracle-child-fearing-lingering-injuries-make-conceiving-impossible.html

I'm not normally a supporter of capital punishment but I have no problem with the creature responsible for this; sadly he hasn't been put down yet.
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Post  Andrew on Wed 11 Jan 2017, 9:11 am

I read this article late last night.

It's now been updated this morning to say her parents have been charged:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4107734/Missing-girl-dead-inside-parents-restaurant.html

Parents are charged with MURDER after missing five-year-old girl's body is found 'concealed' inside their Chinese restaurant, a day after they sparked police search by claiming she 'wandered off'

Ashley Zhao had last been seen by her parents about 5pm on Monday in Ohio
The five-year-old's mother called police to report her missing about 9pm
Her mother has now been charged for murder, and dad with conspiracy charges
A desperate search was launched on Tuesday in an effort to find the missing girl
Police said on Tuesday she was found 'concealed' inside the family's restaurant

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Post  Freedom on Wed 11 Jan 2017, 10:14 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-38579407

A 15-year-old girl has been charged with the murder of a 7-year-old.
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Post  Andrew on Wed 11 Jan 2017, 10:18 am

Freedom wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-38579407

A 15-year-old girl has been charged with the murder of a 7-year-old.

Yeah it's horrific and so terribly sad this one.

I read another article that she had her throat slit.

Absolutely awful.
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Post  Andrew on Fri 13 Jan 2017, 10:03 am

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Post  Guest on Fri 13 Jan 2017, 8:30 pm

Such a very sad case. What a beautiful little girl she was.

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Post  Andrew on Mon 16 Jan 2017, 12:58 pm

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/hunt-woman-missing-more-year-9631619

Victoria Cherry, 44, from Fulwood in Lancashire, has not been seen since October 2015 - and a man has been arrested on suspicion of killing her despite no body having been found
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Post  Andrew on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 12:29 pm

This case was mentioned a while back on here. They've just both been given 13 years. No where near long enough Evil or Very Mad

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4135428/Mother-fed-daughter-drugs-death-jailed.html
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Woman plots to let man rape her seven year old daughter

Post  AndyB on Mon 23 Jan 2017, 3:12 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jan/23/woman-jailed-plot-paedophile-stuart-bailey-rape-daughter-wales

A woman who plotted to let a paedophile rape her seven-year-old daughter has been jailed for nine years.

The woman, who cannot be named for legal reasons, planned a sexual attack on the girl with Stuart Bailey in a series of “depraved” text messages, Cardiff crown court heard.

She also sent the 54-year-old a naked picture of her daughter and bought sleeping pills to drug her, the court was told.

The pair exchanged dozens of messages and the offences only came to light when the woman’s partner found the messages on her phone and reported her, the court heard.

Bailey, who was jailed for a total of 13 years, and the woman were found guilty of conspiracy to rape a girl aged under 13 after a trial in December.

Bailey, of Rhydyfelin in Pontypridd, south Wales, was also convicted of encouraging the distribution of indecent photographs of a child and encouraging the sexual assault of a child by another woman.

At an earlier hearing the woman admitted distributing five indecent images of a child and Bailey admitted possessing those images.

The judge, the recorder of Cardiff, Eleri Rees QC, said Bailey was prolific in contacting a number of women on the dating website Plenty Of Fish. She said a pattern emerged whereby Bailey quickly turned to talking about perverted and unlawful sexual activity, seeing how far he could push the women.

“The discussion, unless cut short by the women, would then escalate to you encouraging them to [engage in] sexual activity with children,” she said.

Officers began investigating in June last year after the woman’s then partner found the messages and she was arrested, Rees said. The investigation led police to Bailey who, it was discovered, was having similar discussions with other women.

Rees said of the pair: “You met once face to face for sex. During that encounter you, Bailey, saw a photograph of [the woman’s daughter].”

The mother later posed her daughter naked in the bath, exposing her genitals, to take pictures to send to Bailey. Another image showed the girl in school uniform with her underwear exposed, the court heard.

Rees said the pair claimed they never had any intent to carry out the content of their “depraved discussions of a perverted sexual nature”.

The mother, who was described as “vulnerable and gullible” by Rees, asked Bailey at one point what she would get out of the plan to rape her daughter and Bailey responded by mentioning sums of £200 to £300, the court heard.

The pair planned to rape the girl during the Whitsun school holiday and talked about drugging her. Rees said that despite speaking to her GP, who advised against giving a child melatonin, the mother went ahead and bought some online.

“By your own admission you tried it out a week before the rape was due to take place,” she said.

Lucy Crowther, for Bailey, said her client was “totally ashamed of his behaviour and his actions, which he acknowledges will affect his grown-up children and his partner, who is currently standing by him”.

Alex Greenwood, defending the woman, said social services had identified her as a person at risk of being manipulated by men prior to the offences and that was what had happened.

He said she had been “bullied, cajoled and blackmailed” by Bailey.

Both defendants were made the subject of sexual harm prevention orders and given one year of additional licence to serve.
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Post  Andrew on Mon 23 Jan 2017, 3:19 pm

I was reading about this horrific one earlier on in the DM. How the hell could a mother do that to her daughter... There really is some sick twisted people out there. Evil or Very Mad
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Post  Andrew on Thu 26 Jan 2017, 10:22 am

I vaguely recall reading about it. Here's an article from several years ago. Horrific stuff:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2480156/Lauren-Kavanaugh-Girl-closet-tortured-mother-stepfather-reveals-strength-12-years-on.html
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Post  Andrew on Thu 26 Jan 2017, 10:26 am

This one was mentioned the other week as the McCanns somehow got their names into it:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4158586/Mom-fled-husband-two-kids-won-t-charged.html
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Post  Freedom on Thu 26 Jan 2017, 10:48 am

I can't see any mention of the McCanns in that link.

They are usually thrown into everything though, no matter how irrelevant.
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Post  Andrew on Thu 26 Jan 2017, 10:57 am

The Express article about it that's on the 'McCann latest news' thread had the McCanns in it.
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Toddler shot in head to 'shut him up'

Post  bluebell on Mon 30 Jan 2017, 6:54 pm

II can remember this at the time.  It was reported as 'possibly an accident'.   Why are such people in charge of children, absolutely dreadful poor child.
I cannot post the link with his pic - such an adorable little chap who would ever need to hurt him.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-38799276
Toddler Harry Studley shot in head to 'shut him up'

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Post  chrissie on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 11:42 am

What a dreadful story Crying or Very sad
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Post  Andrew on Fri 03 Feb 2017, 10:46 am

An interesting one that I've just read - so will stick it up here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4187354/Fresh-operation-hunt-missing-Lisa-Brown.html
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