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Post  Freedom on Thu 18 Aug 2016, 12:01 pm

This sounds dreadful - the Texas case.

Memories of the Derek Bentley case in the early 1950s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Bentley_case
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Re: Miscellaneous Criminal Cases

Post  Andrew on Thu 18 Aug 2016, 12:33 pm

Yeah remember watching a film based on that ages ago with a young Doctor Who in it..

ETA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_Him_Have_It


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Post  Freedom on Thu 18 Aug 2016, 4:11 pm

Yes I saw that too. I wonder what relation Peter and Rebecca Eccleston - who played children - are to him.

I knew all about the case beforehand - not that I remember it when it happened, I hasten to add. It was very controversial but that was the law at the time.
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Post  Andrew on Thu 18 Aug 2016, 4:35 pm

Brother and Sister. Nephew and Niece to Dr Who.
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The case of Mary Bell

Post  Freedom on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 6:22 pm

25 years before James Bulger, there was this case involving two children attacking others, killing two of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moFhGzE_xRI
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Post  Andrew on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 7:37 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Bell

Was just reading up on it as wasn't aware of this case myself.
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Post  Freedom on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 9:25 pm

It was a bit before your time and didn't get anything like the publicity that the James Bulger case did.

There was a lot of shock though that a girl of such a young age could kill two small boys.

There was controversy when Mary was released from prison after 12 years and given a life time's anonymity - that's similar to the Bulger killers - though she, as far as is known, has never committed any further crimes.
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Re: Miscellaneous Criminal Cases

Post  Andrew on Tue 30 Aug 2016, 9:30 am

http://news.sky.com/story/john-lennons-killer-mark-chapman-denied-parole-again-10557771
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Post  Freedom on Tue 30 Aug 2016, 9:51 am

I'm not sure about this one. I don't think there can be any doubt that Mark Chapman was mentally ill when he killed John Lennon.

If he is no longer a danger to himself or anyone else, I think that he should be released.

The same goes for Sirhan Sirhan who shot Robert Kennedy.

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2016/06/what_happened_to_sirhan_sirhan.html

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Post  Andrew on Tue 30 Aug 2016, 10:04 am

45 years and counting for Sirhan. He'll never get out. Neither will Chapman, IMO.

Anyway Sirhan was stitched up and under some Government Mind-Control drugs or something... If you believe the Conspiracy stuff floating about from what I read years ago.
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Post  Freedom on Tue 30 Aug 2016, 10:15 am

For some reason, the conspiracy theories about the RFK assassination never took hold in the way that they did for JFK.

There were suggestions that another gun was fired but I wonder if it belonged to a security agent and went off accidentally in all the confusion.

There is a theory (believable compared with some of the others) that it was a stray bullet from a secret serviceman that was the fatal from the front shot that killed JFK.
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Post  Freedom on Tue 30 Aug 2016, 1:52 pm

I'll add this case here as it also involved a young child convicted of killing another. He was until the Bulger killers the youngest person to be convicted of murder.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=TO0DAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA17&lpg=PA17&dq=murder+of+sharona+joseph&source=bl&ots=LbeNDaa-ZZ&sig=gAM8TXBx9NjMlp_3E2q2sPGwIYM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjIj-WnlunOAhVFIsAKHXHYAfMQ6AEINDAE#v=onepage&q=murder%20of%20sharona%20joseph&f=false


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/why-victims-deserve-so-much-better-9135075.html
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Re: Miscellaneous Criminal Cases

Post  Andrew on Thu 01 Sep 2016, 11:25 am

A bit harsh.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3768569/Kim-Jong-executes-education-minister-firing-squad-not-sitting-properly-meeting.html
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Re: Miscellaneous Criminal Cases

Post  Freedom on Thu 01 Sep 2016, 9:40 pm

Andrew wrote:A 'harsh' sentence for a change for this one taken from Sky News website...

http://news.sky.com/story/texas-to-execute-jeffrey-wood-even-though-he-didnt-kill-anyone-10541505

Let's hope that sanity prevails for once.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/19/us/texas-execution-jeff-wood/
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Re: Miscellaneous Criminal Cases

Post  Andrew on Thu 01 Sep 2016, 11:03 pm

Freedom wrote:
Andrew wrote:A 'harsh' sentence for a change for this one taken from Sky News website...

http://news.sky.com/story/texas-to-execute-jeffrey-wood-even-though-he-didnt-kill-anyone-10541505

Let's hope that sanity prevails for once.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/19/us/texas-execution-jeff-wood/

Forgot all about that and that he was due to get executed last week.
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Re: Miscellaneous Criminal Cases

Post  Andrew on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 8:04 pm

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/tv-couple-who-drugged-baby-8761277

A TV presenter drugged her four-month-old baby with cocaine by breastfeeding her after a wild party.

Krystin Lisaius, 26, and her husband Somchai Lisaius, 42, could face two years in prison after the young mum gave her daughter breast milk 12 hours after taking cocaine .

The American presenters from Arizona were charged in April but have only just pleaded guilty to endangering their baby. They both face up to two years in jail.
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Re: Miscellaneous Criminal Cases

Post  Andrew on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 4:54 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3773013/British-mother-arrested-France-accused-suffocating-baby-holiday-husband-slept.html
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Re: Miscellaneous Criminal Cases

Post  bluebell on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 5:22 pm

Andrew wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3773013/British-mother-arrested-France-accused-suffocating-baby-holiday-husband-slept.html


Saw the headline and immediately thought the baby could have been smothered sleeping with parents (accidently).
Seems not though.
How could the mother have gone back to bed after if she is guilty, hard to understand. ??

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Post  bluebell on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 5:25 pm

Andrew wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/tv-couple-who-drugged-baby-8761277

A TV presenter drugged her four-month-old baby with cocaine by breastfeeding her after a wild party.

Krystin Lisaius, 26, and her husband Somchai Lisaius, 42, could face two years in prison after the young mum gave her daughter breast milk 12 hours after taking cocaine .

The American presenters from Arizona were charged in April but have only just pleaded guilty to endangering their baby. They both face up to two years in jail.


Saw the family's lawyer on tv telling us what good parents they are and how much they cared for the child  -  Shocked

What about possession, taking drugs, child endangerment ?    I note they have a 'plea deal'.   Rolling Eyes

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Post  Andrew on Tue 06 Sep 2016, 9:24 am

bluebell wrote:
Andrew wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3773013/British-mother-arrested-France-accused-suffocating-baby-holiday-husband-slept.html


Saw the headline and immediately thought the baby could have been smothered sleeping with parents (accidently).
Seems not though.  
How could the mother have gone back to bed after if she is guilty, hard to understand. ??  

Some more on this tragic story here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3775238/Mother-smothered-five-month-old-son-French-holiday.html
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Post  bluebell on Tue 06 Sep 2016, 12:15 pm

So she is the family breadwinner, they have a 2 year old and a five month old on holiday in a gite, which sounds like hard work.

Just from that my sympathy leans towards the mother.  Says she was "exhausted"  (not surprising), arguments with husband (not surprising)
Maybe she is suffering from postnatal depression as well.

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Post  Andrew on Tue 06 Sep 2016, 2:07 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3775913/Mother-four-arrested-four-year-old-son-died-horrific-blaze-slept.html

A grieving mother has been arrested for child neglect after her four-year-old son died in a horrific blaze.
Jenny Davies, 28, escaped the inferno with three of her children but little Jac was trapped in his bedroom.
Davies was arrested and held for questioning after a police investigation into the fire at Pontardawe, near Swansea, South Wales.


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Post  Freedom on Tue 06 Sep 2016, 3:22 pm

How has the issue of alleged neglect arisen - she was after all in the house with her children.

However, if it was only down to the efforts of a six-year-old that most of the family survived, I can't help but wonder if she was under the influence of drink or drugs at the time.
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Post  bluebell on Tue 06 Sep 2016, 4:03 pm

Freedom wrote:How has the issue of alleged neglect arisen - she was after all in the house with her children.

However, if it was only down to the efforts of a six-year-old that most of the family survived, I can't help but wonder if she was under the influence of drink or drugs at the time.


That brave little six year old, sounds as if she was used to looking out for her siblings ?

Could it be that the four year old that perished was somehow restrained in his bedroom - door locked or something ?

Goodness without knowing the full story my mind goes into overdrive.

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Post  Andrew on Tue 06 Sep 2016, 7:12 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-37288267

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-arrested-murder-janet-commins-8780285
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