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Post  Andrew Sat 01 Oct 2016, 11:50 pm

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Post  Andrew Sat 01 Oct 2016, 11:53 pm

Ghoulish Madeleine McCann tour takes tourists where missing tot stayed and cops dug for body

22:15, 1 OCT 2016 UPDATED 22:15, 1 OCT 2016
BY ALAN SELBY , PHIL CARDY

Twisted organiser invites sightseers to speculate on parents' involvement in disappearance


Tourists are being offered a ghoulish sightseeing tour of the town where Madeleine McCann was kidnapped.

The sick trips take visitors to the apartment where the missing three-year-old was last seen alive and the tapas restaurant where her parents were dining when she vanished.

The twisted organiser also takes his clients to nearby wasteland which police dug up in searches in Praia da Luz in Portugal’s Algarve.

The ghouls are then invited to speculate on the ­involvement of Madeleine’s doctor parents Kate and Gerry.

Last night the couple were said to be distressed by the latest outrageous twist in the story.

And the tours, dubbed the “Luz Challenge”, have ­triggered disgust among ­other Brits in Praia.

Yesterday one astonished expat who lives in the area said: “This is in appalling taste. I couldn’t believe it when I saw it.

Madeleine McCann was just three years old when she went missing nearly a decade ago
“This is totally uncalled for. A little girl going missing should not be made into a game or a challenge.”

Madeleine, of Rothley, Leics, was almost four when she vanished from her family’s holiday apartment on May 12 nine years ago.

The gruesome tours are ­being offered on the internet by a British grandfather in his 60s who has become obsessed with the case since emigrating to Praia da Luz.

He says he lives in “Maddieville” and is offering his version of “Mission Impossible” to work out what happened to Madeleine.

He aims the tours at Brits looking for a day trip but insists he does not want payments.

Our source said: “The guide is obsessed with Maddie. He’s ­written thousands of words about the case and pored over maps, photographs and police transcripts.

“We don’t know why he is so hung up on it.”

Philip Coburn / Daily MirrorFront of block 6 at the Praia Da Luz Ocean Club Resort where Madeleine McCann went missing from flat 5a in block 5 of the resort in PortugalThe tour takes in this block of flats, where Maddie was last seen
The weirdo started offering the tours in January and had the first ­visitor on March 8.

According to the blog used to advertise the tours, trips took place throughout the summer, and he is currently planning the fourth one for later this year.

In the first blog about the tour, the so-called host said: “If you can visit Luz, please get in touch with me, because I would like you to show you the reality.

“I think of this as the Luz Challenge. Our version of Mission Impossible.”

Then, in an offensive ­comment, the sicko says: “You have to come up with a way in which the McCanns, for whatever reason, ­disposed of Madeleine’s body, and the body was not found in searches.”

In a reference to the officer in charge of the original search, the tour guide says: “Gonçalo Amaral struggled, and in my opinion failed, to come up with an explanation.

Tapas bar Praia da Luz PortugalKate and Gerry McCann were eating at this nearby restaurant when their daughter went missing
“He had something like 25 years of experience policing Portugal and the Algarve, and he failed to come up with a solution to a one-word question. How?

“How do you dispose of a child’s body when all you have is foot power and no experience of Luz.

“Would you like to see if you can overcome the Luz Challenge?”

The guide lists several places that his clients will be taken to.

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They start at Apartment 5A at the Ocean Club Hotel where the tot vanished.

From there they go a few hundred yards to the tapas restaurant where her parents were eating with friends – although the guide says a meal will not be possible as the place has closed. Then they visit the spot near the apartment where the McCanns’ friend Jane Tanner saw a mystery man carrying a child, though police later ruled out the sighting.

They will also take in the scene of the sighting by Martin Smith, a ­retired businessman, who said he saw a man carrying a child in the direction of the beach.

Other places in the tour are the areas where police carried out searches two years ago.

The first is scrubland to the south-west of the McCann apartment, around the size of three football ­pitches and surrounded by villas and apartments. The two other sites are on the other side of Praia da Luz on either side of the road out of town.

Another ghoulish spot on the tour is the Our Lady of the Light church in the centre of Luz.

From there the guide said he would start looking at all the red herrings and conspiracy theories which had sprung up around the case.

These include the rumour Madeleine could have been been hidden on the nearby beach or under rocks.

Responding to requests on his blog, the guide said he does not charge for the tours or arrange accommodation but has a contact with a flat owner who does reasonable prices.

The guide said he is planning to introduce a new tour route suitable for wet weather.

The man is said to have moved to the Portuguese resort with his wife several years ago.

He is clearly ­unaware or not bothered by the disgust his warped ­pastime is causing.

Several street signs have been sprayed with the message “Stop McCann Circus” in response to all the negative publicity the picturesque Algarve town receives.

Critics said the sightseeing tour is in appalling taste.

Explaining why he ­remains anonymous, the guide says: “I see a lot of people for whom the Madeleine McCann case is about them, as if they want major roles in a stage drama.

Composite file e-fits of potential suspects which have built up since Madeleine McCann went missingA man was seen carrying a child in Praia da Luz on the night Maddie was last seen
“I want the exact opposite.

“I prefer to remain anonymous, in the background, a non-character in the case.

“That means my musings are more likely to be judged on merit alone.

“Hopefully, that in turn maximises the chance of working out what ­happened to Madeleine McCann.”

Explaining the twisted thinking that ­produced the tour, the man says: “My first thought was simple.

“I just could not make a ghouls tour of Luz fly. Then the idea began to intrigue me.

Madeleine McCann Ghouls Tour pagesWould-be guide's blog describing sick tour
“How does one make a ghouls’ tour of Luz actually work?

“The solution is cheap and cheerful. It comes out of the best penny ­dreadfuls in Victorian era. You do not bother about the truth. Or the facts. You simply go for the thrill value.”

He continues: “I suppose, at a push, with all the red herrings around, I could develop a ghouls’ tour with at least 20 points on the map.

“There must be at least ten more red herrings in the Madeleine story, surely.

“The difficulty is my brain is not into red herring stories and my heart is not into this line of action.”

While this deluded man ­amuses himself with his outrageous “game” the British investigation into the ­disappearance codenamed Operation Grange has cost at least £12million.
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Post  Heisenburg Sun 02 Oct 2016, 7:11 am

The caveat to the last line should add,that Operation Grange has achieved what the tour will,nothing.
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Post  Heisenburg Sun 02 Oct 2016, 7:24 am

Google Shigninginluz.
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Post  Andrew Sun 02 Oct 2016, 7:47 am

Heisenburg wrote:Google Shigninginluz.

*Shining

Is this blogger the tour guide then?
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Post  chirpyinsect Sun 02 Oct 2016, 8:00 am

Heisenburg wrote:Google Shigninginluz.

So the tours are conducted by elcacraig who writes the shiningluz blog. I had always thought CMoMM member elcacraig was female but it would appear he is male due to mention of a wife.
Iirc EC was very vocal during the Wayback era and refuted any claim that it was anything other than a glitch.
I think these tours are a disgusting exploitation of the Madeleine story and, call me cynical, but I fail to believe that these tours which take place over a 7 hour time span do not bring some monetary reward.

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Post  Andrew Sun 02 Oct 2016, 8:04 am

Is there any truth in the these latest articles though...?
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Post  chirpyinsect Sun 02 Oct 2016, 8:51 am

Andrew wrote:Is there any truth in the these latest articles though...?

Do you mean are the newspaper reports true? No matter because EC himself mentions the tours in his blog.

Madeleine – Luz tour #4

August 12, 2016 elcacraig1964 Barragem da Bravura, Luz tour, Madeleine McCann
Luz tour #4 is now undergoing preparation. This one is going to be quite challenging, but I like challenges, so it also means it should be particularly interesting.

It is scheduled for a tad later in the season, at a time when Portugal can be dry and sunny, or the heavens can be falling out of the sky. So I need two Luz tours #4, one for the dry, one for the wet.

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Post  Andrew Sun 02 Oct 2016, 9:04 am

Sorry - My last comment didn't really make sense. Was still half-asleep.

Yes, I mean't were the newspaper articles truthful and are these tours actually taking place or was it just 'noise' coming out of the McCann camp, because the Needhams are hogging the limelight at the moment and they don't like it. So they wanted some 'Maddie news' out there.

I've heard of 'shininginluz' but not at all familiar with his blogs.

As an aside - I've never been to PDL itself. But admittedly I would like to have a walk around the place. In my own leisure though and not through one of these tour jobs.
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Post  Mo Sun 02 Oct 2016, 9:26 am

I read Elca Craig blogs and I've only read about 2 of these so called tours.  This blog is like any other blog ie Textusa, Cristobell etc where comments can be made. I've only read 3 different people's comments one of which is Joana Morais another is a member of the Justice Forum where Elca Craig is a moderator. - correct me if I'm wrong as it could be another forum with justice in it.

The difference with this blog is the debunking of information discussed on other forums ie the weather reports by Peter Mcc's experts.  Elca Craig has even written to the Mc's on a couple of occasions to offer assistance - although there has been no response - she/he thinks Clary has blocked the communication.
I personally don't think there is any charge and the article has been blown out of proportion.  We do have to be careful here because the papers could have been writing about any of the blogs/forums.  I don't see anything sinister (might be the wrong word) in this person.  They write about their personal life living in Luz, what goes on in the area ie celebrations, carnivals etc.

Correction: Anne Guedes not Joana Morais


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Post  chirpyinsect Sun 02 Oct 2016, 10:00 am

In defence of the blog it is rammed with information and photos. It does seem an unhysterical attempt to collate screeds of Madeleine related stuff. I have been speed reading for an hour and I am mighty impressed at the amount of work involved.
My biggest criticism is there isn't a search facility and the entries are in order from latest to earliest. I was interested in EC's take on the WB fiasco and it took a lot of time to find it.
Perhaps I was a bit harsh in my criticism of his motives but I do still find the description of the tour as a "ghoulls tour" a little distasteful.

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Post  Freedom Sun 02 Oct 2016, 10:17 am

"A British grandfather in his 60s obsessed with the case" - no, not THAT one!

I haven't made up my mind yet as to whether this is entirely an awful idea. If it brings more people's attention to the general ridiculousness of the story, then it's good.

That said, I would prefer to go it alone if ever I was there but that's just the way I am.
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Post  Andrew Sun 02 Oct 2016, 10:33 am

The name Elca Craig rings a bell. He was on CMoMM as well wasn't he? Did he get banned?
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Post  Freedom Sun 02 Oct 2016, 10:34 am

As far as I know, he is still a member there.
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Post  Andrew Sun 02 Oct 2016, 10:38 am

Freedom wrote:As far as I know, he is still a member there.

So are about 5000 other people that have been banned over the years and haven't bothered with the hassle to contact the forum owner themselves to be removed. Very Happy
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Post  dogs don't lie Sun 02 Oct 2016, 10:49 am

I'd love to go, but only when it's all done and dusted. I'm sure loads of ppl have went to those places anyway out of curiosity, the word ghoul and tour just aren't right.

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Post  Freedom Sun 02 Oct 2016, 10:53 am

Of course it's only the tabloids who are using words like ghoulish.

I went on a Jack the Ripper walk in the East End of London many years ago. That probably would have been thought of as outrageous at the time of the events!
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Post  dogs don't lie Sun 02 Oct 2016, 10:58 am

Please tell me he was locked up at the time?

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Post  chirpyinsect Sun 02 Oct 2016, 11:04 am

Freedom wrote:Of course it's only the tabloids who are using words like ghoulish.

I went on a Jack the Ripper walk in the East End of London many years ago. That probably would have been thought of as outrageous at the time of the events!

Nope Freedom. Mr C himself refers to it as a ghoul tour

The idea of ghouls tour of Luz was raised on a forum I frequent. I have no belief this was other than in tongue-in-cheek. I certainly don’t think it was malevolent, so I will credit it to a bit of banter.

My first thought was simple. I just could not make a ghouls tour of Luz fly. Then the idea began to intrigue me. How does one make a ghouls tour of Luz actually work?

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Post  dogs don't lie Sun 02 Oct 2016, 11:09 am


Shit, then you probably did bump into him but just didn't know at the time lol! affraid

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Post  Freedom Sun 02 Oct 2016, 11:30 am

This was in the mid 1970s when I was touring Jack's old haunts so we can safely say he was long gone!

Sorry, Chirpy, I'd missed that bit about the ghoul tours.

The usual sloppiness with dates in the Mirror: saying that Madeleine disappeared on 12th May.
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Post  Mo Sun 02 Oct 2016, 12:56 pm

I have copied this over from the Justice Forum with a response from ElcaCraig. It will be interesting to see if any of the papers contacted him (find it difficult saying him as I've always thought it was a her).

Quote from: John on Today at 02:54:48 AM
Would you like to respond to the criticisms by Alan Selby and Phil Cardy of the Mirror who no doubt have made a nice little earner out of Madeleine McCann stories?

Not straight away. I reserve the right of first bite for my blog.

Forum readers may be interested to know that there are at least 3 legs to this story.

1 is stuff that only comes from my blog, AFAIK. Thus my blog is getting read by the Sunday Mirror.

2 is stuff that only appears on this forum. Therefore this forum is being read by the people above.

3 is stuff that does not appear on my blog or on this forum. Therefore folks are digging behind the scenes.

Let the story run. I am more likely to find out exactly what happened that way.
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