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Post  candyfloss Tue 24 May 2016, 9:34 am

@fiorifan · 4m4 minutes ago

#McCann They've filed their appeal . On and on rolls the McCircus. If Amaral needs more dosh to fight them then my purse is open.


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Post  Freedom Tue 24 May 2016, 9:38 am

Oh no if true - but it was near impossible to believe that the McCanns would give up their campaign.
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Post  Andrew Tue 24 May 2016, 9:44 am

Has this come from what Joanna posted up yest?

It looked official but was in Portuguese so couldn't understand it nor could google translate.

Where's this come from.......
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Post  candyfloss Tue 24 May 2016, 9:50 am

Andrew wrote:Has this come from what Joanna posted up yest?

It looked official but was in Portuguese so couldn't understand it nor could google translate.

Where's this come from.......

What she posted yesterday was the Appeal Court Ruling of 14th April.

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Post  candyfloss Tue 24 May 2016, 9:52 am

This is it..


Joana Morais ‏@JoanaAMorais  · 12h12 hours ago  

Acórdão do Tribunal da Relação de Lisboa #McCann x GA e outros http://pllqt.it/EPohMI  cc. @mitch_1uk @salvadorcunha



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Post  Andrew Tue 24 May 2016, 9:58 am

What does that translate to... scratch

Yes, that's what I saw yest. As well as a link to some official looking docs.
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Post  AndyB Tue 24 May 2016, 10:08 am

Acórdão do Tribunal da Relação de Lisboa translates to Judgment of the Court of Appeal of Lisbon so it looks like its just the appeal court judgement that we all know about
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Post  candyfloss Tue 24 May 2016, 10:21 am

I'm trying to find something to back up Ann-Kristine's tweet that they have filed the appeal.

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Post  Andrew Tue 24 May 2016, 10:31 am

http://www.dgsi.pt/jtrl.nsf/33182fc732316039802565fa00497eec/cb2a3a0cff30134a80257fa8002b9b32?OpenDocument#pq=EPohMI

That was the link I mentioned earlier that was posted by Joana yesterday.

It appears it's the old stuff from the 14th of April.

I think A-K has got her wires crossed...........
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Post  AndyB Tue 24 May 2016, 10:45 am

Andrew wrote:http://www.dgsi.pt/jtrl.nsf/33182fc732316039802565fa00497eec/cb2a3a0cff30134a80257fa8002b9b32?OpenDocument#pq=EPohMI

That was the link I mentioned earlier that was posted by Joana yesterday.

It appears it's the old stuff from the 14th of April.

I think A-K has got her wires crossed...........
Yes, at the top of the page that you've linked to it says "Acórdão do Tribunal da Relação de Lisboa", which translates to "Judgment of the Court of Appeal of Lisbon"
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Post  candyfloss Tue 24 May 2016, 10:48 am

AndyB wrote:
Andrew wrote:http://www.dgsi.pt/jtrl.nsf/33182fc732316039802565fa00497eec/cb2a3a0cff30134a80257fa8002b9b32?OpenDocument#pq=EPohMI

That was the link I mentioned earlier that was posted by Joana yesterday.

It appears it's the old stuff from the 14th of April.

I think A-K has got her wires crossed...........
Yes, at the top of the page that you've linked to it says "Acórdão do Tribunal da Relação de Lisboa", which translates to "Judgment of the Court of Appeal of Lisbon"

Yes, I did say it was the 14th April Judgement, I don't think this is what Ann-Kristine is referring to, she has I think heard it has been filed.  If anyone is on twitter perhaps they could ask her?

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Post  Châtelaine Tue 24 May 2016, 11:00 am

I have it from reliable sources, which I cannot quote, that it is indeed true.
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Post  AndyB Tue 24 May 2016, 11:04 am

Châtelaine wrote:I have it from reliable sources, which I cannot quote, that it is indeed true.
Disappointing but not surprising. Of course it doesn't mean that the Supreme Court will accept the appeal
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Post  candyfloss Tue 24 May 2016, 11:05 am

I think we always knew they would...

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Post  Andrew Tue 24 May 2016, 11:06 am

It was always expected that they would appeal. Probably advised not to but they had to.

Be good to see an official source on it though instead of hearsay.
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Post  AndyB Tue 24 May 2016, 11:07 am

Andrew wrote:It was always expected that they would appeal. Probably advised not to but they had to.

Be good to see an official source on it though instead of hearsay.
It would also be good to see the grounds that they think they have
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Post  Andrew Tue 24 May 2016, 11:15 am

AndyB wrote:
Andrew wrote:It was always expected that they would appeal. Probably advised not to but they had to.

Be good to see an official source on it though instead of hearsay.
It would also be good to see the grounds that they think they have

Yes - be very interesting indeed.

Here's what seen on twitter about it so far:

ann-kristine ‏@fiorifan 2h2 hours ago
#McCann They've filed their appeal . On and on rolls the McCircus. If Amaral needs more dosh to fight them then my purse is open.
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coco ‏@maybe_coco 26m26 minutes ago
@fiorifan where did you hear? Summer recess nearly upon us too Sad another year idles by - it's like drawing teeth :/
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ann-kristine ‏@fiorifan 22m22 minutes ago
@maybe_coco On a forum from one of the lovely Portuguese gals.
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coco ‏@maybe_coco 21m21 minutes ago
@fiorifan has it simply been submitted & may still be rejected, or has it been perused & accepted into process? Sorry for all the questions.
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ann-kristine ‏@fiorifan 18m18 minutes ago
@maybe_coco All I heard is that they'd filed their appeal. No more info.
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Post  Poe Tue 24 May 2016, 11:15 am

AndyB wrote:
Châtelaine wrote:I have it from reliable sources, which I cannot quote, that it is indeed true.
Disappointing but not surprising. Of course it doesn't mean that the Supreme Court will accept the appeal

I'm in two minds about this: either the McCanns are incredibly dense and would rather destroy themselves than admit defeat or it's a delaying tactic to prevent Mr Amaral starting proceedings against them.

I'm veering towards the dense/self destruction option.

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Post  Andrew Tue 24 May 2016, 11:19 am

Poe wrote:
AndyB wrote:
Châtelaine wrote:I have it from reliable sources, which I cannot quote, that it is indeed true.
Disappointing but not surprising. Of course it doesn't mean that the Supreme Court will accept the appeal

I'm in two minds about this: either the McCanns are incredibly dense and would rather destroy themselves than admit defeat or it's a delaying tactic to prevent Mr Amaral starting proceedings against them.

I'm veering towards the dense/self destruction option.

Probably both in all fairness.
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Post  Poe Tue 24 May 2016, 11:32 am

I would have thought that the sensible option would be accept defeat but take out a super-injunction preventing publication of the book, or excerpts of the book, in the UK ostensibly to protect the twins then use every delaying tactic possible against Mr Amaral should he decide to sue.
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Post  bluebell Tue 24 May 2016, 12:00 pm

Are they appealing to The Supreme Court against the decision of an Appeal Court? Is that how it works in Portugal?
I'm just trying to get it clear in my head. scratch

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Post  AndyB Tue 24 May 2016, 12:02 pm

Poe wrote:I would have thought that the sensible option would be accept defeat but take out a super-injunction preventing publication of the book, or excerpts of the book, in the UK ostensibly to protect the twins then use every delaying tactic possible against Mr Amaral should he decide to sue.
There's the costs though. And not just their latest failed attempt use the Portuguese civil justice system to crush Snr Amaral. If I remember correctly they also have the costs from the first series of trials to get the book banned that were held over pending the outcome of the latest case. So that's two lots of serious costs they have to find. Spending the extra on the supreme court on the off chance that you might win is probably good business sense
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Post  Bampots Tue 24 May 2016, 12:40 pm

And not to forget...if its true.....that the appeal hs to be on a point of law and not about the outcome itself.....ie has the process been flawed thats led to it?

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Post  froggy Tue 24 May 2016, 1:04 pm

AndyB wrote:
Poe wrote:I would have thought that the sensible option would be accept defeat but take out a super-injunction preventing publication of the book, or excerpts of the book, in the UK ostensibly to protect the twins then use every delaying tactic possible against Mr Amaral should he decide to sue.
There's the costs though. And not just their latest failed attempt use the Portuguese civil justice system to crush Snr Amaral. If I remember correctly they also have the costs from the first series of trials to get the book banned that were held over pending the outcome of the latest case. So that's two lots of serious costs they have to find. Spending the extra on the supreme court on the off chance that you might win is probably good business sense

Can't see that cost will be a problem, just as long as they don't need to dip into their own pockets.
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Post  Andrew Tue 24 May 2016, 2:34 pm

Still no official confirmation yet then...

Just had a look on the below but nothing mentioned for a while.

https://twitter.com/PJ_GA/with_replies?lang=en-gb

I'm surprised A-K has not come out and said exactly where she's heard it......

Chateleine.... are your sources as reliable as the good dogs?
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