McCANNS LOSE THEIR APPEAL!! GONCALO WINS 31/01/17 in Supreme Court
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Re: McCANNS LOSE THEIR APPEAL!! GONCALO WINS 31/01/17 in Supreme Court
***chirpyinsect wrote:Barbados.Châtelaine wrote:Now, which country doesn't have an extradiction treaty with the UK? Brazil?
O.K. Where the weather is nice and the pinacoladas aren't too expensive ...
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Luna wrote:That £490,000+ of the fraudulent fund which they invested should just about cover their legal fees.
Hi Luna .Ben Salmond explained this today on fb 'AorS' and yes I agree it would just about cover it. Sorry can't copy.
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It's not all jam for Amaral.
Benfica unexpectedly lost at Setubal last night....
Benfica unexpectedly lost at Setubal last night....
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costello wrote:Luna wrote:That £490,000+ of the fraudulent fund which they invested should just about cover their legal fees.
Hi Luna .Ben Salmond explained this today on fb 'AorS' and yes I agree it would just about cover it. Sorry can't copy.
I don't suppose the parents are buoyed by their funds being depleted!
I do hope that the fund will be scrutinized by investigators.
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One of the last matches I watched & liked [70's?] was real Real Madrid- Benfica. Eusebio and Di Stefano. Never to forget, but after that foot got dirty.
Poor Benfica nowadays then ....
Poor Benfica nowadays then ....
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***Luna wrote: [...]
I don't suppose the parents are buoyed by their funds being depleted!
I do hope that the fund will be scrutinized by investigators.
I wouldn't be surprised, not even when it was done quite a long time ago ...
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Châtelaine wrote:***chirpyinsect wrote:Barbados.Châtelaine wrote:Now, which country doesn't have an extradiction treaty with the UK? Brazil?
O.K. Where the weather is nice and the pinacoladas aren't too expensive ...
Luz?
Is Ocean Club still going?
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The statement from KM and GM. Note: there is no 'spokesperson' to hide behind - have they all done a runner??
It is eight years since we brought the action and in that time the landscape has dramatically changed, namely there is now a joint Metropolitan Police-Policia Judiciaria investigation which is what we've always wanted.
Reading between the lines, are they acknowledging that they have lost public support and are about to be thrown to the wolves?
I wonder if the last part of the sentence, with regard to the joint investigation, should read: "which is what we have always dreaded."
It is eight years since we brought the action and in that time the landscape has dramatically changed, namely there is now a joint Metropolitan Police-Policia Judiciaria investigation which is what we've always wanted.
Reading between the lines, are they acknowledging that they have lost public support and are about to be thrown to the wolves?
I wonder if the last part of the sentence, with regard to the joint investigation, should read: "which is what we have always dreaded."
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poster wrote:The statement from KM and GM. Note: there is no 'spokesperson' to hide behind - have they all done a runner??
It is eight years since we brought the action and in that time the landscape has dramatically changed, namely there is now a joint Metropolitan Police-Policia Judiciaria investigation which is what we've always wanted.
Reading between the lines, are they acknowledging that they have lost public support and are about to be thrown to the wolves?
I wonder if the last part of the sentence, with regard to the joint investigation, should read: "which is what we have always dreaded."
They can't afford him any longer
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froggy wrote:poster wrote:The statement from KM and GM. Note: there is no 'spokesperson' to hide behind - have they all done a runner??
It is eight years since we brought the action and in that time the landscape has dramatically changed, namely there is now a joint Metropolitan Police-Policia Judiciaria investigation which is what we've always wanted.
Reading between the lines, are they acknowledging that they have lost public support and are about to be thrown to the wolves?
I wonder if the last part of the sentence, with regard to the joint investigation, should read: "which is what we have always dreaded."
They can't afford him any longer
Indeed! Is there any money left in The
I thought the Fund was set up to 'find Madeleine' who, according to her parents, has come to no harm? The public donated money to find Madeleine, not to pay the legal costs??
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I drank Portuguese wine tonight to celebrate. Three cheers for the Portuguese Supreme Court.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/31/madeleine-mccanns-parents-lose-legal-appeal-claims-covered-daughters/
Madeleine McCann's parents could be sued by police chief who falsely accused them of covering up death
Kate and Gerry McCann could now face a large costs bill
Kate and Gerry McCann face being sued by the former Portuguese police chief who falsely accused them of covering up their daughter’s death.
The McCanns yesterday lost an appeal in Portugal’s highest court over damaging allegations in a book on the case by Goncalo Amaral, who initially led the investigation into Madeleine’s disappaearance ten years ago.
The couple initially successfully sued Amaral for libel over the book, The Truth of the Lie, but the decision was overturned by another court in 2015.
In the latest round of their legal battle the couple have failed to have the original decision reinstated.
That raises the nightmare prospect of being sued by Amaral for damages.
Madeleine McCann's parents could be sued by police chief who falsely accused them of covering up death
Kate and Gerry McCann could now face a large costs bill
Kate and Gerry McCann face being sued by the former Portuguese police chief who falsely accused them of covering up their daughter’s death.
The McCanns yesterday lost an appeal in Portugal’s highest court over damaging allegations in a book on the case by Goncalo Amaral, who initially led the investigation into Madeleine’s disappaearance ten years ago.
The couple initially successfully sued Amaral for libel over the book, The Truth of the Lie, but the decision was overturned by another court in 2015.
In the latest round of their legal battle the couple have failed to have the original decision reinstated.
That raises the nightmare prospect of being sued by Amaral for damages.
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Re: McCANNS LOSE THEIR APPEAL!! GONCALO WINS 31/01/17 in Supreme Court
poster wrote:froggy wrote:poster wrote:The statement from KM and GM. Note: there is no 'spokesperson' to hide behind - have they all done a runner??
It is eight years since we brought the action and in that time the landscape has dramatically changed, namely there is now a joint Metropolitan Police-Policia Judiciaria investigation which is what we've always wanted.
Reading between the lines, are they acknowledging that they have lost public support and are about to be thrown to the wolves?
I wonder if the last part of the sentence, with regard to the joint investigation, should read: "which is what we have always dreaded."
They can't afford him any longer
Indeed! Is there any money left in TheFraudFund?
I thought the Fund was set up to 'find Madeleine' who, according to her parents, has come to no harm? The public donated money to find Madeleine, not to pay the legal costs??
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Perhaps that's why OG was reduced to a handful of officers - they are just waiting for information from various financial institutions.
All speculation on my part.
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bluebell wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/31/madeleine-mccanns-parents-lose-legal-appeal-claims-covered-daughters/
Madeleine McCann's parents could be sued by police chief who falsely accused them of covering up death
Kate and Gerry McCann could now face a large costs bill
Kate and Gerry McCann face being sued by the former Portuguese police chief who falsely accused them of covering up their daughter’s death.
The McCanns yesterday lost an appeal in Portugal’s highest court over damaging allegations in a book on the case by Goncalo Amaral, who initially led the investigation into Madeleine’s disappaearance ten years ago.
The couple initially successfully sued Amaral for libel over the book, The Truth of the Lie, but the decision was overturned by another court in 2015.
In the latest round of their legal battle the couple have failed to have the original decision reinstated.
That raises the nightmare prospect of being sued by Amaral for damages.
If the accusations made in the book are false, then why have the McCanns lost the case?
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bluebell wrote:Bit more from the Sun article above - Yeah - too right !!
The appeal judges said Amaral’s right to express his opinions overruled any duty of confidentiality he had as an ex-police chief heading the Madeleine McCann investigation once the case files, made available on the Internet by Portuguese authorities, were put into the public domain.
Dr Amaral's opinions have been made on the basis of facts evolving from a thorough investigation including forensic evidence.
The McCann's theory is based on no evidence at all. Not one single piece of evidence that Madeleine was abducted from apartment 5A on Thursday evening by person/s unknown.
And the FACT that the McCanns were not prepared to seriously entertain any other scenario - at least in the first instance - other than abduction tends to suggest that they were following a script.
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@bluebell & poster
The media are really tying themselves in knots trying to avoid upsetting the McCanns
The media are really tying themselves in knots trying to avoid upsetting the McCanns
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Poe wrote:poster wrote:froggy wrote:poster wrote:The statement from KM and GM. Note: there is no 'spokesperson' to hide behind - have they all done a runner??
It is eight years since we brought the action and in that time the landscape has dramatically changed, namely there is now a joint Metropolitan Police-Policia Judiciaria investigation which is what we've always wanted.
Reading between the lines, are they acknowledging that they have lost public support and are about to be thrown to the wolves?
I wonder if the last part of the sentence, with regard to the joint investigation, should read: "which is what we have always dreaded."
They can't afford him any longer
Indeed! Is there any money left in TheFraudFund?
I thought the Fund was set up to 'find Madeleine' who, according to her parents, has come to no harm? The public donated money to find Madeleine, not to pay the legal costs??
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Perhaps that's why OG was reduced to a handful of officers - they are just waiting for information from various financial institutions.
All speculation on my part.
Demonstrating fraud is probably the only way of bringing them to court
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+++froggy wrote:[...]
Demonstrating fraud is probably the only way of bringing them to court
Yep.
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Only just caught up with the news but isn't it fabulous.
A toast to a brave man is required, so off to find something suitable.
A toast to a brave man is required, so off to find something suitable.
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Moral of the story,don't loose a child in unexplained circumstance,don't sue the copper who tried to find out what happened and finally have a clear understanding of the civil law in a foreign country before launching a legal action.
Whoop,whoop.
Whoop,whoop.
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What happens next for GA?
I hope he will release a statement regarding today's news.
I hope he will release a statement regarding today's news.
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Heisenburg wrote:Moral of the story,don't loose a child in unexplained circumstance,don't sue the copper who tried to find out what happened and finally have a clear understanding of the civil law in a foreign country before launching a legal action.
Whoop,whoop.
They were incredibly badly advised. I suppose bombastic Gerry considered he knew better and steamed ahead. Isabel happy to act for them as she gets paid win or lose, though she can say goodbye to that bonus
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How about a 10th anniversary meet-up in Luz?? For anyone interested...
I nearly went there last year as I know a couple who live there with their children. They know the Hubbards. I would love to talk to them more about the case and would be fascinated to walk along the streets which I have read so much about.
RIP Madeleine....
I nearly went there last year as I know a couple who live there with their children. They know the Hubbards. I would love to talk to them more about the case and would be fascinated to walk along the streets which I have read so much about.
RIP Madeleine....
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I would be most surprised if the McCanns haven't syphoned off a few millions from the fund into various offshore accounts plus cash donations and book royalties that never made it into the fund at all. Weren't Metodo 3 experts in money laundering? I expect the McCanns have a nice little nest egg hidden away.
Perhaps that's why OG was reduced to a handful of officers - they are just waiting for information from various financial institutions.
All speculation on my part.
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Yes - agreed. But they might have to dip into the nest egg as surely the public have not been donating for quite some time and there have been some big legal fees?
Perhaps that's why OG was reduced to a handful of officers - they are just waiting for information from various financial institutions.
All speculation on my part.
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Yes - agreed. But they might have to dip into the nest egg as surely the public have not been donating for quite some time and there have been some big legal fees?
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Not long came in from work to hear this fantastic news, I am so so happy
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