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Post  Guest on Fri 06 Jan 2017, 9:13 pm

@Andrew, yes ringfenced for continuing the search when OG investigation ends.

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Post  Guest on Fri 06 Jan 2017, 9:28 pm

Antonia wrote:

Can we have suggestions as to what they invested almost £500K in?

A nice sunny home in a country that doesn't have an extradition treaty with the UK...? Very Happy Very Happy

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Post  Antonia on Fri 06 Jan 2017, 9:38 pm

I like your sense of humour Canada12.

It makes sense moneywise not to have so much in the bank when interest rates on deposit are so low. But investments can go up and down and it may be difficult to get your money quickly if need arises. In the case of a company like this which (in theory) is totally committed to finding Madeleine why would you tie your money up in 'investments'. this is what you might do if a normal trading company with spare cash. on the website they are still asking you to donate!
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Post  Andrew on Fri 06 Jan 2017, 10:07 pm

canada12 wrote:
Antonia wrote:

Can we have suggestions as to what they invested almost £500K in?

A nice sunny home in a country that doesn't have an extradition treaty with the UK...? Very Happy Very Happy

Probably transferred and ringfenced for a new home if they end up losing Rothley Towers.
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Post  Guest on Thu 09 Mar 2017, 7:07 pm

With acknowledgement to DougD over the road who has posted that the Fund's auditor, haysmacintyre, has resigned.

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Post  candyfloss on Thu 09 Mar 2017, 7:34 pm

Luna wrote:With acknowledgement to DougD over the road who has posted that the Fund's auditor, haysmacintyre, has resigned.

Interesting, thanks Luna, I am reading on twitter it was 3 days after Supreme Court ruling? Also a copy of resignation letter on twitter, where has that come from?

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Post  Guest on Thu 09 Mar 2017, 7:41 pm

Yes, saw it on twitter too. Apparently it was first posted on a FB group.

I guess that someone's been keeping an eye on the Fund's records at Companies House?

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Post  Antonia on Thu 09 Mar 2017, 11:13 pm

The Fund will now need new auditors?

Who will get the gig?

Wouldn't auditors, given the current profile of the McCanns, be reluctant to take on the assignment? I would imagine prospective auditors will ring hays whatsit to ask the real reasons for the resignation.

hayswhatsit have a big section on their website re they expertise dealing with charities and not for profit companies. It doesn't make sense that they are resigning. Its not as if the auditor was a one man band who is now retiring.
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Post  Guest on Thu 09 Mar 2017, 11:33 pm

"It doesn't make sense that they are resigning."

The resignation does make sense in the context of it occurring a few days after the SC decision. There is, additionally, OG - is it investigating the Fund?

Speculation, of course.

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Post  AndyB on Fri 10 Mar 2017, 9:13 am

I take it there's no reason given in the letter, so we don't know why they've resigned?
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Post  unreorganised on Fri 10 Mar 2017, 9:27 am

AndyB wrote:I take it there's no reason given in the letter, so we don't know why they've resigned?

Even Arsene Wenger would resign from that job.
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Post  Andrew on Fri 10 Mar 2017, 10:05 am

I'm not sure he would to be fair, the stubborn old mule.
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Post  Andrew on Fri 10 Mar 2017, 10:22 am

I'm not surprised in the slightest that Haysmacintyre have decided to sever ties. Just surprised that it's took so long.

It also amazes me why Carter-Ruck have remained so loyal (payments aside). Any reputable company worth it's salt wouldn't have anything at all to do with the McCann's now. Absolutely nothing.

Poisoned chalice and all that. And an embarrassment to be even linked to them.

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Post  Guest on Fri 10 Mar 2017, 10:31 am

Lawyers don't do loyalty. It's a profit making business.


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Post  unreorganised on Fri 10 Mar 2017, 10:40 am

Luna wrote:Lawyers don't do loyalty.  It's a profit making business.


Which makes me wonder if this was a commercial consideration, in the sense that they were worried about keeping some of their other clients onside.
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Post  Andrew on Fri 10 Mar 2017, 10:53 am

That's a good question.

I've always been intrigued from the off in terms of who put the McCanns in touch with Carter-Ruck? As I'm sure Gerry didn't just pick up the Yellow Pages.

And how that initial conversation went...

"Hi, my name is Gerry McCann.... I've been accused of disposing and burying my daughter. I've accumulated a few quid, so can I pay you to threaten to sue people who don't go along with this fairytale abduction that I've made up....."
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Post  Guest on Fri 10 Mar 2017, 11:08 am

I wondered too about commercial considerations, as the resignation is close to the end of the financial year.

My hunch is that it's connected to developments in the case.  It will all come out in the wash!

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Post  Andrew on Fri 10 Mar 2017, 11:27 am

Cheers Doug (well you do owe me a few)

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Post  Poe on Fri 10 Mar 2017, 11:37 am

Andrew wrote:I'm not surprised in the slightest that Haysmacintyre have decided to sever ties. Just surprised that it's took so long.

It also amazes me why Carter-Ruck have remained so loyal (payments aside). Any reputable company worth it's salt wouldn't have anything at all to do with the McCann's now. Absolutely nothing.

Poisoned chalice and all that. And an embarrassment to be even linked to them.

IMO etc.

If Carter Ruck have severed ties with the McCanns, how would we know? Neither side is going to make a public announcement.

If there has been a parting it would be confidential. The McCanns could still threaten legal action but will only be when someone calls their bluff to the point where a threatening letters or stronger action is required that Carter Ruck's support will be visible ...or not.

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Post  Andrew on Fri 10 Mar 2017, 11:41 am

Poe wrote:
Andrew wrote:I'm not surprised in the slightest that Haysmacintyre have decided to sever ties. Just surprised that it's took so long.

It also amazes me why Carter-Ruck have remained so loyal (payments aside). Any reputable company worth it's salt wouldn't have anything at all to do with the McCann's now. Absolutely nothing.

Poisoned chalice and all that. And an embarrassment to be even linked to them.

IMO etc.

If Carter Ruck have severed ties with the McCanns, how would we know? Neither side is going to make a public announcement.

If there has been a parting it would be confidential. The McCanns could still threaten legal action but will only be when someone calls their bluff to the point where a threatening letters or stronger action is required that Carter Ruck's support will be visible ...or not.

Funnily enough, I was thinking exactly the same after I typed that. They've probably not had anything to do with them for several years Very Happy

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Post  Antonia on Sat 18 Nov 2017, 6:17 pm

the end of December is the last date for filing the Fund Accounts for the year ending 31 march 2017 - but there is no sign of a new auditor being appointed. Hays McIntyre who had served from the start resigned earlier this year and nobody know why.

However the McCanns have found a new director to replace Michael Linnett who resigned and died shortly afterwards. the new Director is Leicester Chartered accountant John Griffin. I am wondering why a busy man, a partner in quite a big accountancy practice in Leicester, would take this on. While I don't think the role of director of the Fund would be that onerous timewise there must be so many better 'not for profit' companies he could give his time too. Surely before accepting the offer to be a director he would have done some research on the accounts and he would be aware that the Mccanns face big legal bills which they have temporarily postponed by going to the EU court of Justice. I think any professional would be daft to have anything to do with the Fund at this point.
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Post  Antonia on Sun 28 Jan 2018, 11:52 am

No sign of the Fund accounts for the year ending 31 march 2017. Normally the accounts were due by the following 31 december to avoid a fine.

i looked up Company House and it says the accounts are due by 31 January 2018 ie on Wednesday next.

Has company law changed to give more time to file or has the Fund been given a special dispensation?

I posted earlier that a new director was appointed to replace Michael Linnett. the new man is a partner in a large firm of chartered accountants. You would think that he would be concerned that any company of which he is a director would live dangerously re filing.

Does anyone know if the Fund found a new auditor?

When companies change auditors, the new auditor has to ask the old one if there are are issues he should be aware of - its like getting a reference before proceeding. Haysmcintyre had been the Fund's auditor from the start so they would be well able to fill the new guy in!
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Post  Antonia on Mon 05 Feb 2018, 3:59 pm

Just looked up The Fund at company House


05 Feb 2018 Accounts for a small company made up to 31 March 2017
This document is being processed and will be available in 5 days.



So the accounts are in - not clear if they made it by the extended deadline 31 Jan. And we must wait 5 more days to see who is the new auditor and what other 'investments' the Fund has made. So we're biting our nails until Monday next..........
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Post  Freedom on Mon 05 Feb 2018, 5:34 pm

I don't know how I will sleep with the excitement of the accounts to come.

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Post  Heisenburg on Mon 05 Feb 2018, 6:01 pm

Freedom wrote:I don't know how I will sleep with the excitement of the accounts to come.


Well waiting for Operation Grange will soon cure any insomnia.
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