Sonia Poulton's documentary

Cristobell wrote:

nobodythereeither wrote:Given that the SY investigation seems on the face of it to be at quite an advanced stage now, is it a good idea to be airing this kind of stuff in the MSM?

Could it not play into the McCanns' hands, particularly if there were a trial of some aspects of the case in this country? ie the "unfair trial, jury influenced by MSM stories" line, blah blah.

The more I think about it, the more uneasy I feel, sorry.

None of us are privy to all the evidence which SY and the Portuguese current investigation may have amassed since the PJ files were made public, and putting forward theories based on seven (?) year old evidence could be counterproductive, in my view.

And I'm not sure Martin Smith would be too delighted, either.

Maybe I've misunderstood, quite likely, in which case apologies.

As I said earlier N, I am not going into this as an expert.  I can only say why I think they are involved and why I campaign for justice.  Much of it will also be about the internet wars.  For some reasons the powers that be believe there is an orchestrated campaign 'of hate' against the McCanns, and having done a 7 year tour of duty, I can assure him there is not!  A few loons and wannabe tyrants, but no-one with the ability to organise a booze up in a distillery.  I am hoping this will be a good opportunity to confirm that we are not haters who carry pitchforks, just ordinary people appalled that a small child can disappear and her parents can profit from it!  

What a cheek. I have organised several piss-ups in distilleries. But I've always worked alone. Not a part of any group or clique, haven't modded any forums for years, despite being asked to by different forums and different people. I don't do DMs on either forums or Twitter, or Facebook groups. My opinion is my own and I answer to nobody. Being a lone wolf works just fine for me.

I think that is the case with most 'anti's' Resistor, I have been a lone wolfess since the start.  I never joined Bennett's 'Foundation', and as far as I know Bennett is the only who has ever made an any attempt at an organised campaign.  I've never been asked to join anything, or sign anything, other than by Bennett and I've always declined on the basis that he is barmy.

Prior to the screening of the October 2013 Crimewatch, he has me to put my name to a very lengthy letter demanding that the program be withdrawn.  I politely refused because I, and no doubt thousands of others most definitely wanted it to go ahead!  I can't remember what his reasoning was, I may even have the old email somewhere - I don't store things, but I don't spend hours deleting either - but in retrospect, it very much fits in with suspicions that he may be a 'double agent'.

The MSM I think, are convinced there is some sort of organised campaign to persecute Kate and Gerry, they can't seem to understand that individuals have taken to the internet in their hundreds and thousands because they can see that they are being hoodwinked!  There are no sinister groups plotting anything against the McCanns and I don't know why otherwise sane journalists are buying into the parents' paranoia, the parents have much to be paranoid about, all stemming from the dark secrets they are so desperately trying to hide!

In the early days, this case attracted all sorts of fruitloops and weirdos, but they moved on years ago.  The threats against the parents and the twins are pure McCann propaganda, they are unreal, and the bad comments they have from anti's, they have had to work their socks off for with years of baiting and stalking, anything they could think of to get a response they could turn into a sensational headline.  They have certainly earned their shill money.

But you have made a good point about most of us acting individually Resistor and I am jotting it down so I don't forget it.

Chop Suey on Toast wrote:If it were a dead case it might need a media campaign to get it back on track. But it's being investigated by NSY and the PJ, who know far more about it than even the greatest internet devotee. Why put yourself at risk when it isn't necessary at this stage?

I left the Jill Havern forum because I thought they were overstepping the line with 'their research' Chop Suey. I found the harassment of witnesses in this case particularly distasteful.

Mr. Bennett may be claiming to have solved the case Chop Suey, but I am not, lol.  I do not believe the McCanns' abduction story, simple as that.  I have many reasons for not believing them and hopefully I will get the opportunity to put them forward. I'm not going into saying it was Colonel Mustard in the library with a candlestick, nor am I going to present the guy with reams of documents with sections highlighted in blue to prove my case, and demand Operation Grange be set aside.  I'll leave all that to those with bigger egos  

If I may be so bold, I am hoping to represent the individuals, those of us who came to this case because we discovered we were being lied to and we wanted to know why.  I want to reiterate the questions we have been asking, and additionally, I want to know to why we have been so viciously attacked for asking them.

Just read the nonsense over there from Bennett and Aquila. The 'new' Bennett rules etc. Pleb as expected put in a cameo.


Deleted, we should not attack the other place, even though I see we are being attacked again.  See Latest News on CMoMM thread  from Tony Bennett rebutting Cristobell post here.

Andrew wrote:Just read the nonsense over there from Bennett and Aquila. The 'new' Bennett rules etc. Pleb as expected put in a cameo.


Deleted, we should not attack the other place, even though I see we are being attacked again.  See Latest News on CMoMM thread  from Tony Bennett rebutting Cristobell post here.

Oh, dear, I've just quoted and replied to Andrew's post on the right to reply thread before it was edited. I haven't been kind about TB and the new rules,. I, too, may have overstepped the mark, mods. Sorry in advance if you need to edit.

Dee Coy wrote:

Andrew wrote:Just read the nonsense over there from Bennett and Aquila. The 'new' Bennett rules etc. Pleb as expected put in a cameo.


Deleted, we should not attack the other place, even though I see we are being attacked again.  See Latest News on CMoMM thread  from Tony Bennett rebutting Cristobell post here.

Oh, dear, I've just quoted and replied to Andrew's post on the right to reply thread before it was edited. I haven't been kind about TB and the new rules,. I, too, may have overstepped the mark, mods. Sorry in advance if you need to edit.

It's ok DC that is in the Lounge but I don't want it on main threads.  I'm afraid we are being attacked constantly, it is no good TB moaning and Aquila having a go, they are the ones who constantly start things.  Attacking Sonia, and Cristobell for trying to do the right thing is wrong, they should at least be given a fair chance.

Whilst I understand this forum does not want to stoop to that level, I also understand people getting something off their chest here. They attack us all the time and sometimes my jaw is on the floor for an hour!
Sorry, but sometimes some have to answer back.

dogs don't lie wrote:Whilst I understand this forum does not want to stoop to that level, I also understand people getting something off their chest here. They attack us all the time and sometimes my jaw is on the floor for an hour!
Sorry, but sometimes some have to answer back.

Yes, I understand that ddl and there is a thread especially for that in the lounge.

That's where I totally agree candyfloss, in the lounge, not in latest news. (thumbs up)

dogs don't lie wrote:Whilst I understand this forum does not want to stoop to that level, I also understand people getting something off their chest here. They attack us all the time and sometimes my jaw is on the floor for an hour!
Sorry, but sometimes some have to answer back.

I no longer even visit that forum.

Life is too short to read through that poster and his one dimensional perspective on everything. 'Facts', indeed.

Meteor, I have changed one word that you used as I feel that term is more appropriate for sites like JATYK2.

Cristobell wrote:I think that is the case with most 'anti's' Resistor, I have been a lone wolfess since the start.  I never joined Bennett's 'Foundation', and as far as I know Bennett is the only who has ever made an any attempt at an organised campaign.  I've never been asked to join anything, or sign anything, other than by Bennett and I've always declined on the basis that he is barmy.

Prior to the screening of the October 2013 Crimewatch, he has me to put my name to a very lengthy letter demanding that the program be withdrawn.  I politely refused because I, and no doubt thousands of others most definitely wanted it to go ahead!  I can't remember what his reasoning was, I may even have the old email somewhere - I don't store things, but I don't spend hours deleting either - but in retrospect, it very much fits in with suspicions that he may be a 'double agent'.

The MSM I think, are convinced there is some sort of organised campaign to persecute Kate and Gerry, they can't seem to understand that individuals have taken to the internet in their hundreds and thousands because they can see that they are being hoodwinked!  There are no sinister groups plotting anything against the McCanns and I don't know why otherwise sane journalists are buying into the parents' paranoia, the parents have much to be paranoid about, all stemming from the dark secrets they are so desperately trying to hide!

In the early days, this case attracted all sorts of fruitloops and weirdos, but they moved on years ago.  The threats against the parents and the twins are pure McCann propaganda, they are unreal, and the bad comments they have from anti's, they have had to work their socks off for with years of baiting and stalking, anything they could think of to get a response they could turn into a sensational headline.  They have certainly earned their shill money.

But you have made a good point about most of us acting individually Resistor and I am jotting it down so I don't forget it.

For all the mainstream media claim now to be so concerned about Kate and Gerry McCann's safety from "trolls", the fact is that if anyone ever placed them in any danger it's the media themselves, by publishing photographs of their home and the name of the small Leicestershire village. The fact that nobody has ever physically attacked any of them, even at the height of their notoriety, and despite the press showing everybody exactly where they could find them, suggests to me that the McCanns are in no physical danger from the public at all and are just using these alleged threats to garner sympathy and prevent individuals from voicing legitimate criticisms of their behaviour.

Popcorn wrote:[
For all the mainstream media claim now to be so concerned about Kate and Gerry McCann's safety from "trolls", the fact is that if anyone ever placed them in any danger it's the media themselves, by publishing photographs of their home and the name of the small Leicestershire village. The fact that nobody has ever physically attacked any of them, even at the height of their notoriety, and despite the press showing everybody exactly where they could find them, suggests to me that the McCanns are in no physical danger from the public at all and are just using these alleged threats to garner sympathy and prevent individuals from voicing legitimate criticisms of their behaviour.

Good post!

Meteor wrote:

dogs don't lie wrote:Whilst I understand this forum does not want to stoop to that level, I also understand people getting something off their chest here. They attack us all the time and sometimes my jaw is on the floor for an hour!
Sorry, but sometimes some have to answer back.

I no longer even visit that forum.

Life is too short to read through that poster and his one dimensional perspective on everything. 'Facts', indeed.

Meteor, I have changed one word that you used as I feel that term is more appropriate for sites like JATYK2.

No problem, I was just angered by what I had been reading on previous pages. Thanks.

Sorry wrong place to post but the CMOMM thread part 2 seems to have been spammed or something?

I don't want to click on the link which seems to be the last post there??

Unless something hideous has happened to my laptop?

nobodythereeither wrote:Sorry wrong place to post but the CMOMM thread part 2 seems to have been spammed or something?

I don't want to click on the link which seems to be the last post there??

Unless something hideous has happened to my laptop?

Last post I can see is from TheTruth and no link.

nobodythereeither wrote:Sorry wrong place to post but the CMOMM thread part 2 seems to have been spammed or something?

I don't want to click on the link which seems to be the last post there??

Unless something hideous has happened to my laptop?

Nothing wrong with the thread it sounds like your computer is having a turn.

candyfloss wrote:

nobodythereeither wrote:Sorry wrong place to post but the CMOMM thread part 2 seems to have been spammed or something?

I don't want to click on the link which seems to be the last post there??

Unless something hideous has happened to my laptop?

Nothing wrong with the thread it sounds like your computer is having a turn.

Yes, sorry, it's apearing OK now at this end, f-ing laptop

I am just wondering if the un-named person in this article is the person who Sonia said she would name in her documentary - the person who has to maintain the abduction theory?


http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/06/pj-brought-back-to-portugal-3-of.html

More likely to be one of Tanner or O'Brien, both of whom were rumoured to have changed their statements. I guess we'll never know. Because I don't even believe anymore that there is actually any documentary - just like the 2and2 guys before. All mouth and no trousers.

Please let's not have any further debate on whether or not the documentary materialises.

Shall we have a poll instead. 

Only joking.

Thanks Andrew, that's made me smile.

Unfortunately things always seem to get heated whenever Sonia is mentioned and I'm anxious to avoid that happening again.

Freedom wrote:Please let's not have any further debate on whether or not the documentary materialises.

hear hear!

Here it is.........


Sonia Poulton ‏@SoniaPoulton  · 53 secs53 seconds ago  
http://www.theuntoldstoryofmadeleinemccann.com  

RIP #BrendaLeyland #mccann

Published on 4 Oct 2015


Director’s Note: I chose this particular clip for the trailer because it is the most frequently repeated comment I have heard since I started researching this story.

People, no matter how sympathetic, struggle to understand why Kate McCann did not comply with the Portuguese Police questions.

Kate and Gerry McCann benefit from excellent media relations and enjoy extensive coverage, however no journalist or TV presenter has tackled the many inconsistencies with them. And no one has directly asked them the question in this trailer.

In the interests of transparency, I believe this is a fair question to ask Kate McCann. The public have contributed millions of pounds to the search for her daughter - and continue to - and at a time of global austerity and when one child goes missing every five minutes.

Sonia Poulton