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Post  Guest Fri 16 Oct 2015, 4:44 am

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Cristobell wrote:The documentary will be broadcast when the time is right.  At the moment it isn't.  I did explain in my blog the importance of getting the timing right.  Neither Sonia, nor I, want to do anything that will interfere with the official investigation.  Thank you to those who understand that, it is appreciated.  Smile

I don't know what else she can say other than this earlier comment, Andrew.
She's made some pretty definitive statements here.  She's being asked to back them up.  But my guess is that she can't because she's got nothing.  If that was over the road she'd be getting called a WUM and all sorts by now.  In what way is a tuppenny halfpenny blogger going to "interfere with an official investigation"?  That is just completely delusional, to say the very least.  Unless there is something else that we are not being told.

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Post  Inca Fri 16 Oct 2015, 8:41 am

We are not over the road though thankfully we all wanted to be away from that and I think Freedom is spot on , what do you expect her to say, if she cannot, I do think sometimes she gets carried away with her posts but so do others and how can it be delusional we don't know what Sonia P has found perhaps she has been told by certain people to put it on hold, just guessing though.
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Post  Freedom Fri 16 Oct 2015, 8:59 am

Thanks for that, Inca.

If the documentary either never appears, or does but is a steaming heap of waste products, Sonia will have made herself look very silly and won't get invited onto Lorraine's sofa any time this millennium.

Does it really matter? It certainly doesn't to me but the amount of hate-filled bile directed at her from some quarters is unbelievable.

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Post  Inca Fri 16 Oct 2015, 9:16 am

I was just reading the thread over the other place and the whole lot of threads in the Sonia P forum gone?
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Post  Freedom Fri 16 Oct 2015, 9:20 am

Maybe the topics are members only now.

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Post  candyfloss Fri 16 Oct 2015, 9:28 am

I have had a quick look and can't see it but then I have just got up and am blurry Smile






This will start 'em off again cheers   Someone else asking on twitter when the documentary is coming out and here is SP answer...


Sonia Poulton ‏@SoniaPoulton  · 14h14 hours ago  
@riffwood we'll keep you updated. Everything very close to chest since trailer www.theuntoldstoryofmadeleinemccann


Good on Sonia, keep them guessing  cheers

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Post  Guest Fri 16 Oct 2015, 9:39 am

This is what it says on Sonia's page "Sensitive to Operation Grange, the ongoing police investigation, Poulton is careful only to address the known anomalies that have arisen since Madeleine’s reported disappearance - and have been in the public domain for a number of years"
Can't see what all the excitement is about for us in forum land, quite clearly there is nothing new (to us) other than attempted interviews which I expect will be none too revelatory. By also putting up Cristobell's photo on her page (and having her involved) I think she's made a mistake, given the Sun article making her out to be a 'hater' (or whatever) etc. If you want to be taken seriously you have to be careful what/who you promote.

Given the 'knowns' we still have no idea when the time 'will be right'.

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Post  Popcorn Fri 16 Oct 2015, 9:53 am

Hongkong Phooey wrote:This is what it says on Sonia's page "Sensitive to Operation Grange, the ongoing police investigation, Poulton is careful only to address the known anomalies that have arisen since Madeleine’s reported disappearance - and have been in the public domain for a number of years"
Can't see what all the excitement is about for us in forum land, quite clearly there is nothing new (to us) other than attempted interviews which I expect will be none too revelatory. By also putting up Cristobell's photo on her page (and having her involved) I think she's made a mistake, given the Sun article making her out to be a 'hater' (or whatever) etc. If you want to be taken seriously you have to be careful what/who you promote.

Given the 'knowns' we still have no idea when the time 'will be right'.

I don't know Sonia's angle, but she does seem to be interested in the treatment Brenda Leyland received and the reporting bias against ordinary members of the public who ask questions about the case. Perhaps she feels that including Cristobel in her programme will be instrumental in addressing this?
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Post  Cristobell Fri 16 Oct 2015, 9:55 am

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Freedom wrote:
Cristobell wrote:The documentary will be broadcast when the time is right.  At the moment it isn't.  I did explain in my blog the importance of getting the timing right.  Neither Sonia, nor I, want to do anything that will interfere with the official investigation.  Thank you to those who understand that, it is appreciated.  Smile

I don't know what else she can say other than this earlier comment, Andrew.

Firstly that's implying that CB has been involved from the off, it's a joint venture, and they will decide 'together' when they'll release it.

I don't think that's the case at all. I like CB,  but I feel she's trying to get involved, or have some say, or even jump on the bandwagon, which I think it's apparent she has nothing to do with.

It's not a pop. As said before, I want truth and transparency. Nothing else.

Surely there's nothing wrong with that.

I've read the rubbish over the road for long enough, and be nice to see some truth here, regarding said subject.

I genuinely want Sonia to succeed, but just feel the way it's gone and is going is a bit suspect.

But, again, just my honesty seeping through.
 




I have been commenting on this case since the very beginning, in my own name and with my own face.  I have taken all the flak, I have been blacklisted, abused and pilloried, so to say I am 'jumping on the bandwagon' now is somewhat insulting.


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Post  Guest Fri 16 Oct 2015, 9:57 am

Popcorn wrote:
Hongkong Phooey wrote:This is what it says on Sonia's page "Sensitive to Operation Grange, the ongoing police investigation, Poulton is careful only to address the known anomalies that have arisen since Madeleine’s reported disappearance - and have been in the public domain for a number of years"
Can't see what all the excitement is about for us in forum land, quite clearly there is nothing new (to us) other than attempted interviews which I expect will be none too revelatory. By also putting up Cristobell's photo on her page (and having her involved) I think she's made a mistake, given the Sun article making her out to be a 'hater' (or whatever) etc. If you want to be taken seriously you have to be careful what/who you promote.

Given the 'knowns' we still have no idea when the time 'will be right'.

I don't know Sonia's angle, but she does seem to be interested in the treatment Brenda Leyland received and the reporting bias against ordinary members of the public who ask questions about the case. Perhaps she feels that including Cristobel in her programme will be instrumental in addressing this?
Well if that's the angle it's the wrong angle IMO.

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Post  Cristobell Fri 16 Oct 2015, 10:05 am

Hongkong Phooey wrote:This is what it says on Sonia's page "Sensitive to Operation Grange, the ongoing police investigation, Poulton is careful only to address the known anomalies that have arisen since Madeleine’s reported disappearance - and have been in the public domain for a number of years"
Can't see what all the excitement is about for us in forum land, quite clearly there is nothing new (to us) other than attempted interviews which I expect will be none too revelatory. By also putting up Cristobell's photo on her page (and having her involved) I think she's made a mistake, given the Sun article making her out to be a 'hater' (or whatever) etc. If you want to be taken seriously you have to be careful what/who you promote.

Given the 'knowns' we still have no idea when the time 'will be right'.


I do not understand your anger and frustration HKP, I have never got myself into such an emotional state about a TV program, file or documentary, so I am somewhat baffled by this.  

As for my picture being on Sonia's website, my life and work is not defined by one misquoted article in the Sun, and intelligent people understand that. Casting people out of society is so First Century Cool
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Post  Guest Fri 16 Oct 2015, 10:27 am

Cristobell wrote:
Hongkong Phooey wrote:This is what it says on Sonia's page "Sensitive to Operation Grange, the ongoing police investigation, Poulton is careful only to address the known anomalies that have arisen since Madeleine’s reported disappearance - and have been in the public domain for a number of years"
Can't see what all the excitement is about for us in forum land, quite clearly there is nothing new (to us) other than attempted interviews which I expect will be none too revelatory. By also putting up Cristobell's photo on her page (and having her involved) I think she's made a mistake, given the Sun article making her out to be a 'hater' (or whatever) etc. If you want to be taken seriously you have to be careful what/who you promote.

Given the 'knowns' we still have no idea when the time 'will be right'.


I do not understand your anger and frustration HKP, I have never got myself into such an emotional state about a TV program, file or documentary, so I am somewhat baffled by this.  

As for my picture being on Sonia's website, my life and work is not defined by one misquoted article in the Sun, and intelligent people understand that. Casting people out of society is so First Century Cool

No anger frustration or whatever it is in your imagination about my emotional state (which is rich coming from you, have a look back at this very thread!) IMO your an attention seeker, as an example look at your avatar, promoting your book, why?

If you weren't crusading supposedly for Madeleine then you'd be crusading for something else.

Btw. The misquote in the Sun as you put it will have been read by many, many more people than any of your blogs etc.but that was the point wasn't it.

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Post  Freedom Fri 16 Oct 2015, 10:29 am

Let's keep this cool, calm and collected please.

A reminder that I have seen the original version of Cristobell's comments and she did not say that she attacked the McCanns.
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Post  Cristobell Fri 16 Oct 2015, 10:39 am

Popcorn wrote:
Hongkong Phooey wrote:This is what it says on Sonia's page "Sensitive to Operation Grange, the ongoing police investigation, Poulton is careful only to address the known anomalies that have arisen since Madeleine’s reported disappearance - and have been in the public domain for a number of years"
Can't see what all the excitement is about for us in forum land, quite clearly there is nothing new (to us) other than attempted interviews which I expect will be none too revelatory. By also putting up Cristobell's photo on her page (and having her involved) I think she's made a mistake, given the Sun article making her out to be a 'hater' (or whatever) etc. If you want to be taken seriously you have to be careful what/who you promote.

Given the 'knowns' we still have no idea when the time 'will be right'.

I don't know Sonia's angle, but she does seem to be interested in the treatment Brenda Leyland received and the reporting bias against ordinary members of the public who ask questions about the case. Perhaps she feels that including Cristobel in her programme will be instrumental in addressing this?




Brenda was the trigger Popcorn, the internet wars suddenly turned very sinister, they were affecting innocent members of the public and tragically resulted in the death of an innocent woman. They were spilling over into the 'real' world.

However, as anyone who has ever embarked on a creative new project will understand, you have to adapt as the story unfolds and as you make new discoveries. A project that is based on real life and current affairs has to be adaptable, and it has to go for the topics that are of greatest interest to the viewers. And it has to be ruthlessly discerning or it will turn into a marathon 4+ hours, with the audience switching off in droves. I don't even know if I will make the 'final cut' lol, but ce la vie, I'm happy either way, the purpose of the documentary is to get the truth about Madeleine's disappearance and the cover up out into the public domain - that's what I am here for.



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Post  Guest Fri 16 Oct 2015, 10:40 am

Freedom wrote:Let's keep this cool, calm and collected please.

A reminder that I have seen the original version of Cristobell's comments and she did not say that she attacked the McCanns.
Who's not cool, calm and collective, I see nothing other than this

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Post  Freedom Fri 16 Oct 2015, 10:43 am

Calling someone an attention seeker is not likely to help reasoned debate.
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Post  Cristobell Fri 16 Oct 2015, 11:04 am

Hongkong Phooey wrote:
Cristobell wrote:
Hongkong Phooey wrote:This is what it says on Sonia's page "Sensitive to Operation Grange, the ongoing police investigation, Poulton is careful only to address the known anomalies that have arisen since Madeleine’s reported disappearance - and have been in the public domain for a number of years"
Can't see what all the excitement is about for us in forum land, quite clearly there is nothing new (to us) other than attempted interviews which I expect will be none too revelatory. By also putting up Cristobell's photo on her page (and having her involved) I think she's made a mistake, given the Sun article making her out to be a 'hater' (or whatever) etc. If you want to be taken seriously you have to be careful what/who you promote.

Given the 'knowns' we still have no idea when the time 'will be right'.


I do not understand your anger and frustration HKP, I have never got myself into such an emotional state about a TV program, file or documentary, so I am somewhat baffled by this.  

As for my picture being on Sonia's website, my life and work is not defined by one misquoted article in the Sun, and intelligent people understand that. Casting people out of society is so First Century Cool

No anger frustration or whatever it is in your imagination about my emotional state (which is rich coming from you, have a look back at this very thread!) IMO your an attention seeker, as an example look at your avatar, promoting your book, why?

I wear my heart on my sleeve, I understand how that makes some people feel uncomfortable, but pretending to be 'normal' nearly killed me.

As for being an attention seeker? Guilty as charged, in fact, I have been an attention seeker ever since I cut my first tooth and sunk it into my big brother's toe, lol. As a child I was a 'little madam', or 'that 'orrible kid' and as an adult I am drama queen. I don't actually see it as a fault, I have never strived to be humble and unassuming, I didn't get noble silence when having the catechism beaten into me, and I don't get it now.

I personally love 'big' characters, in fact most people do, if they didn't we wouldn't have an Arts Industry or a rich cultural history. Every singer, artist, actor, writer, entertainer and politician out there is an 'attention seeker'!



If you weren't crusading supposedly for Madeleine then you'd be crusading for something else.

Without a doubt. In my early years I wanted to be just like Joan of Arc with a few minor adjustments as to how the story should end. I also wanted to a major player (red berets are so chic) in the French Revolution and a suffragette in the last century. (I must release my fiction at some time, lol). I do indeed get involved in causes that I find unjust.

Btw. The misquote in the Sun as you put it will have been read by many, many more people than any of your blogs etc.but that was the point wasn't it.


And the memory span of a Sun reader is.......................?
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Post  Mimi Fri 16 Oct 2015, 11:10 am

Cristobell wrote:
Hongkong Phooey wrote:
Cristobell wrote:
Hongkong Phooey wrote:This is what it says on Sonia's page "Sensitive to Operation Grange, the ongoing police investigation, Poulton is careful only to address the known anomalies that have arisen since Madeleine’s reported disappearance - and have been in the public domain for a number of years"
Can't see what all the excitement is about for us in forum land, quite clearly there is nothing new (to us) other than attempted interviews which I expect will be none too revelatory. By also putting up Cristobell's photo on her page (and having her involved) I think she's made a mistake, given the Sun article making her out to be a 'hater' (or whatever) etc. If you want to be taken seriously you have to be careful what/who you promote.

Given the 'knowns' we still have no idea when the time 'will be right'.


I do not understand your anger and frustration HKP, I have never got myself into such an emotional state about a TV program, file or documentary, so I am somewhat baffled by this.  

As for my picture being on Sonia's website, my life and work is not defined by one misquoted article in the Sun, and intelligent people understand that. Casting people out of society is so First Century Cool

No anger frustration or whatever it is in your imagination about my emotional state (which is rich coming from you, have a look back at this very thread!) IMO your an attention seeker, as an example look at your avatar, promoting your book, why?  

I wear my heart on my sleeve, I understand how that makes some people feel uncomfortable, but pretending to be 'normal' nearly killed me.

As for being an attention seeker?  Guilty as charged, in fact, I have been an attention seeker ever since I cut my first tooth and sunk it into my big brother's toe, lol. As a child I was a 'little madam', or 'that 'orrible kid' and as an adult I am drama queen.  I don't actually see it as a fault, I have never strived to be humble and unassuming, I didn't get noble silence when having the catechism beaten into me, and I don't get it now.  

I personally love 'big' characters, in fact most people do, if they didn't we wouldn't have an Arts Industry or a rich cultural history.  Every singer, artist, actor, writer, entertainer and politician out there is an 'attention seeker'!  



If you weren't crusading supposedly for Madeleine then you'd be crusading for something else.  

Without a doubt.  In my early years I wanted to be just like Joan of Arc with a few minor adjustments as to how the story should end.  I also wanted to a major player (red berets are so chic) in the French Revolution and a suffragette in the last century.  (I must release my fiction at some time, lol).  I do indeed get involved in causes that I find unjust.  

Btw. The misquote in the Sun as you put it will have been read by many, many more people than any of your blogs etc.but that was the point wasn't it.
 

And the memory span of a Sun reader is.......................?  

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Post  Freedom Fri 16 Oct 2015, 11:14 am

I'm glad that you didn't use blue ink, Cristobell.

It's true that the majority of people who read the article in the paper version will have forgotten it in true goldfish attention span time and the paper will have been put to more appropriate use as pet bedding etc.

The problem though is that it fuelled Internet harpies with enough weaponry to use against you for ever more.


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Post  Cristobell Fri 16 Oct 2015, 11:32 am

It is only of interest to themselves Freedom, it doesn't bother me one iota what people think, if they judge my character by that misquote in the Sun, then their intentions are clear.  There really isn't anything I can do or say to appease those who think their own reputations have been besmirched by association, other than reiterate, I am a lone wolf(ess), I am not affiliated to anyone, not online, and not in the real world either, I have terrible commitment issues, I come from a long line of blacksheep and misfits, lol.  To those still concerned, I can only say, I am happy to say 'I don't know you and you don't know me', should they need it in writing Smile
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Post  Cristobell Fri 16 Oct 2015, 11:41 am

Freedom wrote:Let's keep this cool, calm and collected please.

A reminder that I have seen the original version of Cristobell's comments and she did not say that she attacked the McCanns.



Many thanks Freedom. Should it get to the point where I am being marched up the scaffolding and being blind folded, I might just mention the entire interview was recorded on Skype! If, or until, that happens, it remains in the 'been there, dun that, bin'. Smile
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Post  Guest Fri 16 Oct 2015, 2:51 pm

Cristobell wrote:It is only of interest to themselves Freedom, it doesn't bother me one iota what people think, if they judge my character by that misquote in the Sun, then their intentions are clear.  There really isn't anything I can do or say to appease those who think their own reputations have been besmirched by association, other than reiterate, I am a lone wolf(ess), I am not affiliated to anyone, not online, and not in the real world either, I have terrible commitment issues, I come from a long line of blacksheep and misfits, lol.  To those still concerned, I can only say, I am happy to say 'I don't know you and you don't know me', should they need it in writing Smile
Still all about me, me, me......

Anyways lets hope that Sonia keeps to her word when she states:-"the film includes expert testimony from those who have studied the case as well as encounters with the people at the very heart of the story."

Who could these 'experts' that have studied the case be? I can only hope that it's not some internet blogging, twitter twats or the likes and it's somebody reputable.

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Post  Inca Fri 16 Oct 2015, 3:10 pm

It all boils down to defining what an 'expert' is, I except some 'Twitter twats ' as you call them no a damn site more than some experts.

So I would like to know who are the 'experts'?  Every expert that has spoken gets bashed, no one gets a chance, with some so please name a few who are an authority then?
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Post  Guest Fri 16 Oct 2015, 3:20 pm

You're asking the same question? Who are Sonia's experts, not sure who you're asking to name some?

As for Twitter twats, the #mccann is full of head cases from both sides (a generalisation admittedly)

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Post  Mimi Fri 16 Oct 2015, 3:27 pm

Still think it`s unwise to go bashing a prospective work and it`s creator before it`s even been seen.  That sort of behaviour is reminiscent of someone called -

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