USE OF INTELLIGENCE SERVICES
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USE OF INTELLIGENCE SERVICES
Just seen this posted on Textusa. Don't know if it has been posted before but interesting all the same
Anonymous22 Nov 2014 18:34:00
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USE OF INTELLIGENCE SERVICES
KazLux posted this on Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:34 am and I think it has relevance here. I thought I had already translated it myself but could not find it on this thread so here it is.
http://web.archive.org/web/20080302130706/http://sosmaddie.dhblogs.be/ 16.02.2008 Paulo Reis Gazeta Digital/Duarte Levy Thread
TAPAS GROUP HAS ALREADY BEEN PREPARED FOR THE INTERROGATIONS
"It will not be an easy task as they have had the time and the advice to help them prepare themselves for the interrogations” stated a British police officer, explaining that the McCann couple and their friends have had recourse to lawyers and other experts to help them prepare and organise themselves.
The investigators, in the United Kingdom as well as in Portugal, have been surprised by a report, made by a group of specialists related to intelligence services, that detailed and revealed the quality of the organisation that has created itself around the parents of Madeleine and the group of friends that accompanied them during their stay in Portugal.
"This is not the work of parents. It's too professional for it to be the work of a couple of doctors, however intelligent they are" our source affirms.
The report, effected in the margin of the investigations by the Police Judiciaire, reveals that the McCann machine has left nothing to coincidence and that each movement on the terrain, each information voluntarily divulged to certain media has been studied before and prepared with well defined objectives.
Lawyers, consultants in communication and image, former soldiers of fortune, detectives, police officers, journalists, doplomats, politicians, IT-specialists amongst others, are part of a kind of well oiled machine where the goal of finding Madeleine seems to have been replaced with another (goal): to direct, and to discredit, the inquiry. A long term work that represents a financial cost that surpasses the amounts donated to the Find Madeleine Fund.
In a practical sense all has started in the same night of the disappearance of the little British (girl): the listing of calls from the Ocean Club and those of the cell phones used by Gerry and Kate have revealed some very strange receivers (of calls), surpassing by far the simple appeal to the family or to the police."
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Anonymous22 Nov 2014 18:34:00
from Hideho
USE OF INTELLIGENCE SERVICES
KazLux posted this on Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:34 am and I think it has relevance here. I thought I had already translated it myself but could not find it on this thread so here it is.
http://web.archive.org/web/20080302130706/http://sosmaddie.dhblogs.be/ 16.02.2008 Paulo Reis Gazeta Digital/Duarte Levy Thread
TAPAS GROUP HAS ALREADY BEEN PREPARED FOR THE INTERROGATIONS
"It will not be an easy task as they have had the time and the advice to help them prepare themselves for the interrogations” stated a British police officer, explaining that the McCann couple and their friends have had recourse to lawyers and other experts to help them prepare and organise themselves.
The investigators, in the United Kingdom as well as in Portugal, have been surprised by a report, made by a group of specialists related to intelligence services, that detailed and revealed the quality of the organisation that has created itself around the parents of Madeleine and the group of friends that accompanied them during their stay in Portugal.
"This is not the work of parents. It's too professional for it to be the work of a couple of doctors, however intelligent they are" our source affirms.
The report, effected in the margin of the investigations by the Police Judiciaire, reveals that the McCann machine has left nothing to coincidence and that each movement on the terrain, each information voluntarily divulged to certain media has been studied before and prepared with well defined objectives.
Lawyers, consultants in communication and image, former soldiers of fortune, detectives, police officers, journalists, doplomats, politicians, IT-specialists amongst others, are part of a kind of well oiled machine where the goal of finding Madeleine seems to have been replaced with another (goal): to direct, and to discredit, the inquiry. A long term work that represents a financial cost that surpasses the amounts donated to the Find Madeleine Fund.
In a practical sense all has started in the same night of the disappearance of the little British (girl): the listing of calls from the Ocean Club and those of the cell phones used by Gerry and Kate have revealed some very strange receivers (of calls), surpassing by far the simple appeal to the family or to the police."
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reis/levy
the original wind up merchants
levy produced the dogs video - and sold it to the Sun - for masses of cash
treat anything coming from that stable with caution
as for sos madeleine - I'd better let that rest
If however someone is still in touch with levy - pls. do ask him - how did that interview with Antonio Jimenez go?
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is there anyone on this forum who has followed the case - in detail, for more than just a few months?
If not - the above may well be gibberish to you
and candyfloss might be right in sending me to Coventry
keep it light hey?
Not here - not when a missing child's concerned
the original wind up merchants
levy produced the dogs video - and sold it to the Sun - for masses of cash
treat anything coming from that stable with caution
as for sos madeleine - I'd better let that rest
If however someone is still in touch with levy - pls. do ask him - how did that interview with Antonio Jimenez go?
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is there anyone on this forum who has followed the case - in detail, for more than just a few months?
If not - the above may well be gibberish to you
and candyfloss might be right in sending me to Coventry
keep it light hey?
Not here - not when a missing child's concerned
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You might also like to ask him (Levy) what was on the 22 photos that proved that Kate hd changed her clothes.Tristar wrote:reis/levy
the original wind up merchants
levy produced the dogs video - and sold it to the Sun - for masses of cash
treat anything coming from that stable with caution
as for sos madeleine - I'd better let that rest
If however someone is still in touch with levy - pls. do ask him - how did that interview with Antonio Jimenez go?
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is there anyone on this forum who has followed the case - in detail, for more than just a few months?
If not - the above may well be gibberish to you
and candyfloss might be right in sending me to Coventry
keep it light hey?
Not here - not when a missing child's concerned
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Resistor wrote:You might also like to ask him (Levy) what was on the 22 photos that proved that Kate hd changed her clothes.Tristar wrote:reis/levy
the original wind up merchants
levy produced the dogs video - and sold it to the Sun - for masses of cash
treat anything coming from that stable with caution
as for sos madeleine - I'd better let that rest
If however someone is still in touch with levy - pls. do ask him - how did that interview with Antonio Jimenez go?
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is there anyone on this forum who has followed the case - in detail, for more than just a few months?
If not - the above may well be gibberish to you
and candyfloss might be right in sending me to Coventry
keep it light hey?
Not here - not when a missing child's concerned
at last
another stone ager
Yep Duarte kept us salivating - for about a month - nothing ever came of it
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Reis left Portugal and went to Macau in a hell of a hurry. Round about the same time. Funny that.
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Thanks for posting that Scrants, according to Amaral MI5 was on the job very early on. So the political angle is clearly there.
I still think Blair saw an opportunity to big himself up in Europe.
In other words: the McCs were lucky. Or have been -so far..
The investigators, in the United Kingdom as well as in Portugal, have been surprised by a report, made by a group of specialists related to intelligence services, that detailed and revealed the quality of the organisation that has created itself around the parents of Madeleine and the group of friends that accompanied them during their stay in Portugal.
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He does not say where the report came from. If it was a report and not just a communication, personal or otherwise.
Imo the professional help TM got was obvious. They could never have handled the circus themselves.
Even so, it took them nearly a year to get out of the hole they'd dug themselves in.
The article above is about the rogatories - however well they'd prepared themselves for these, nearly all the usual suspects dug themselves in a bit deeper imo.
I expect they'd forgotten most of their original stories.
Imo, although the McCanns thought they had disposed of the 'opposition' (press, PJ, internet) they've only managed to keep their public image of innocent, bereft parents for those parts of the public who dont matter.
Lorraine Kelly fans, that's about it.
Yes, they did have help but my feeling is that 'official' help post 7/9/07 was to whitewash the governmental agencies, not the McCanns. Brown did as little as possible, Smith at the Home Office did what she could to block the PJ. Bits and pieces of help, such as sending the McCs to Brussels in order to avoid the rogatories they were unwilling to undergo. They would have been amazing I think. If only!
I still think Blair saw an opportunity to big himself up in Europe.
In other words: the McCs were lucky. Or have been -so far..
The investigators, in the United Kingdom as well as in Portugal, have been surprised by a report, made by a group of specialists related to intelligence services, that detailed and revealed the quality of the organisation that has created itself around the parents of Madeleine and the group of friends that accompanied them during their stay in Portugal.
Unquote
He does not say where the report came from. If it was a report and not just a communication, personal or otherwise.
Imo the professional help TM got was obvious. They could never have handled the circus themselves.
Even so, it took them nearly a year to get out of the hole they'd dug themselves in.
The article above is about the rogatories - however well they'd prepared themselves for these, nearly all the usual suspects dug themselves in a bit deeper imo.
I expect they'd forgotten most of their original stories.
Imo, although the McCanns thought they had disposed of the 'opposition' (press, PJ, internet) they've only managed to keep their public image of innocent, bereft parents for those parts of the public who dont matter.
Lorraine Kelly fans, that's about it.
Yes, they did have help but my feeling is that 'official' help post 7/9/07 was to whitewash the governmental agencies, not the McCanns. Brown did as little as possible, Smith at the Home Office did what she could to block the PJ. Bits and pieces of help, such as sending the McCs to Brussels in order to avoid the rogatories they were unwilling to undergo. They would have been amazing I think. If only!
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Resistor wrote:Reis left Portugal and went to Macau in a hell of a hurry. Round about the same time. Funny that.
Reis was in the camping ground near Luz - doing his early reporting
VERY early reports spoke of two people connected to the Tapansiks
staying at a camping ground - near Luz
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Tristar wrote:reis/levy
the original wind up merchants
levy produced the dogs video - and sold it to the Sun - for masses of cash
treat anything coming from that stable with caution
as for sos madeleine - I'd better let that rest
If however someone is still in touch with levy - pls. do ask him - how did that interview with Antonio Jimenez go?
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is there anyone on this forum who has followed the case - in detail, for more than just a few months?
If not - the above may well be gibberish to you
and candyfloss might be right in sending me to Coventry
keep it light hey?
Not here - not when a missing child's concerned
Sorry if I've upset anyone on here.
I only noticed the Levy/Reis connection after I posted it and remembered there was something dodgy about them.
I've only followed the case seriously since about 2010 when I googled MM to see what had happened to the case and then found the forums, blogs and PJ files. I've followed it avidly since then but I obviously don't know as much as some on here.
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Tigger wrote:T
Yes, they did have help but my feeling is that 'official' help post 7/9/07 was to whitewash the governmental agencies, not the McCanns. Brown did as little as possible, Smith at the Home Office did what she could to block the PJ. Bits and pieces of help, such as sending the McCs to Brussels in order to avoid the rogatories they were unwilling to undergo. They would have been amazing I think. If only!
Snipped,re: rogatories,were they made under oath?
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caricature wrote:Tigger wrote:T
Yes, they did have help but my feeling is that 'official' help post 7/9/07 was to whitewash the governmental agencies, not the McCanns. Brown did as little as possible, Smith at the Home Office did what she could to block the PJ. Bits and pieces of help, such as sending the McCs to Brussels in order to avoid the rogatories they were unwilling to undergo. They would have been amazing I think. If only!
Snipped,re: rogatories,were they made under oath?
I doubt it, however they are official and signed statements - so actionable if the contents are proved to be a lie. Perhaps wlbts can help, not my area of expertise.
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