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Post  Andrew on Tue 28 Mar 2017, 5:11 pm

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3197252/madeleine-mccann-petition-charged-child-neglect/


'PURE BILE' Pals slam ‘cruel’ petition calling for Madeleine McCann’s parents to be charged with child neglect – as signatures top 130,000
Hollie Flynn’s desperate bid to cause more anguish to Kate and Gerry looks set to fail, despite gaining 130,215 signatures on petition site change.org
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Re: Pals slam ‘cruel’ petition calling for Madeleine McCann’s parents to be charged with child neglect

Post  PMR on Tue 28 Mar 2017, 5:30 pm

I signed a similar e-petition in the very early days
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Post  canada12 on Tue 28 Mar 2017, 5:41 pm

And the Sun has just publicised the petition and made it known to all of its subscribers and anyone else reading online!
Well done!
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Post  bluebell on Tue 28 Mar 2017, 6:43 pm

OK  I have signed.   I know it cannot be a Govt Petition but will hopefully make clear the lack of support TM have,   Good on The Sun for the publicity.
If I once more read the bit in bold below I will scweam and scweam and scweam.        affraid
If they continue to quote that flipping sentence as a get out clause, then they should provide the proper legitimate statements that support it (which they cannot of course).

Here is the link if anyone else wants to sign : https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-get-the-mccanns-charged-with-neglect




A McCann source said: “They were well aware they could have been charged with child neglect and naturally very concerned. But in legal terms they were doing everything well within the bounds of respectable parenting.”

The source insists: “Any legal action against them would have failed.  A court would have to show Kate and Gerry had wilfully neglected their daughter and her siblings, and they did not. They would have robustly defended any charges, if brought.”

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Post  espeland on Tue 28 Mar 2017, 7:00 pm

I'm trying to create a Government petition to:

"Return Kate and Gerry McCann and their seven friends who were in Portugal with them on 3rd May 2007 to Portugal to answer the PJ's questions and take part in re-enactment of events there."

To get the petition started, I need the email addresses of five supporters (presumably UK citizens). If you are willing to be a supporter, please Message me (or let Admin know, if that's the correct procedure).
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Post  Andrew on Tue 28 Mar 2017, 9:40 pm

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/600816/madeleine-mccann-petition-parents-kate-gerry-prosecuted-slammed-as-pure-bile
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Post  Andrew on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 12:04 am

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/friend-madeleine-mccanns-parents-brands-10117065
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Pals slam mc canns

Post  curious on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 9:32 am

I am not sure if this is the right topic? But anyway, I have always wondered...Why in the world would everybody just keep on giving money and there is just no further "movement". I also think that the petition should go out: RECONSTRuCTION! Now, How come did nobody ever really get involved any further? There are only few of their friends still paying them a visit Question This is probably the biggest "child hunt" ever! WHY IS THIS JUST SO SPECIAL AND WHY ARE WE NO NEARER TO THE TRUTH. Mad Evil or Very Mad

It will be 10 years shortly and we all are still in the dark - although we all have our own opinions. What I cant understand. How can they keep this up for so long? Amaral hit the final spot and the dogs confirmed it. My biggest fear will be the two children left. if the mother wants to push a button and all would be over - all together? Then where will the 'PUSHING OF THE BUTTON TAKE he knows there is no hope for ever seeing mmc again, never!

I don't want to sound cruel but things cannot be explained away anymore. If the 10th anniversary comes and goes quietly, wont that then for a change,bounce bounce show the true pain here? How many anniversaries of this episode are the people still going to support?

Somewhere in this world there must be this VERRRRRRRRRY CLEVER PERSON THAT WILL " BE ABLE" to (like a snap of a finger) PROOOOOOOOF THIS IS A POOFY STORY. Now let us think how this can be done! Put your minds together, speak to people, find out what can be done - legally. scratch How can the rest of the group have no idea of what really happened. Surely if I was involved in something like this, I would not shut up at all. I will make a deal and keep with it. Remember the anon. letter that stated mmc,s body is hidden in the specific area? I cannot do more but think that someone of the group gave that info. Somebody with a heart in their chest.

That someone is still outhere. If so why not do a deal with the PJ. This is a big story, very big. I will give all the true information and if I was one of the qualified people involved, I would request that me and my family be moved - relatively far away with new identities. If that one is outthere - think again. If you have children, also grown now - think again! WOULD YOU HAVE HAVE
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Post  curious on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 10:30 am

I HAVE SIGNED AND I HAVE POSTED! The reason for this being: Let this parents now know forever that they have to be more specific and WHOOOOOOOOOOOSH - ALL WILL BE OVER Laughing Cool Idea
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Post  Shrike on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 10:55 am

I didn't sign because I do not believe in neglect. I would prefer the MCanns and all those others - if they were  involved to be charged for the real criminal element of whatever happened. Neglect seems to have been created to provide the time for an abduction that obviously didn;t happen. Neglect is the lesser of two evils and the McCanns know they are unlikely to be prosecuted for this. Even if they are then it is better than being prosecuted for something far more serious. It seems that they are also behind the push for neglect to be the centre of media attention at the time the Supreme Court in Portugal stated clearly that they were not founf innocent of involvment in what happened to their child. Imo


No one has been arrested or charged therefore we must not say things as fact and accuse anyone of anything - so ammended
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Post  candyfloss on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 11:03 am

Welcome curious.

The signing of the petition is imo a waste of time and just making those who are interested in this case and want to know what happened to Madeleine look bad and nasty trolls.  The police here cannot do anything and the PJ made it clear 10 years ago they would not prosecute for neglect.

It is one thing researching the files, and trying to make sense of them, and form theories and opinion, but the Met and PJ are working together to investigate what happened in PDL 10 years ago, the public should let them get on with it.  We will have to wait and see what they come up with.

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Post  candyfloss on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 11:20 am

Just to add to the above post - I would presume that like here there is a time limit on bringing charges and prosecutions of certain crimes.  I seem to recall way back on another forum it being mentioned that the limit was 5 years or so in Portugal.  Just my recollection.

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Post  Andrew on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 11:42 am

I was just trying to find something in relation to this, but I haven't as yet.

Anyway - was just having a quick read of this so thought I'd post it up:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_(Portuguese_law)

Snipped:

Manslaughter, which art. 136 of the Penal Code refers to as homicide caused by negligence, is punishable with a prison term of no less than 6 months and no longer than 3 years, or a fine. If the death is caused by gross negligence the penalty the prison term is of 6 months to 5 years.

Additionally, unintentionally causing someone's death while committing a crime other than homicide is an aggravating factor in the determination of the punishment applicable to that specific crime. For example, if the crime of abandonment (exposing a defenceless person to a situation in which he or she will not to be able to cope with, therefore causing harm to the victim) results in the victim's death, the punishment is 3 to 10 years imprisonment, whereas the normal penalty would be 1 to 5 years. In another example, aggravated assault resulting in the death of the victim is punishable with 3 to 13 years imprisonment, whereas the usual penalty would be 2 to 10 years
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Post  candyfloss on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 11:50 am

I was talking about neglect Andrew, and the petition being pointless as the time limit would have lapsed anyway.

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Re: Pals slam ‘cruel’ petition calling for Madeleine McCann’s parents to be charged with child neglect

Post  Andrew on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 11:56 am

candyfloss wrote:I was talking about neglect Andrew, and the petition being pointless as the time limit would have lapsed anyway.

I know you were, hence why I said I was looking for something else - statute of limitations in Portugal.

I though that neglect on its own was 10 years (and not 5).

But I can't find anything to verify that and not got the time at the moment anyway.

(They won't get charged over here with neglect regardless)
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STILL PETITION STORY"

Post  curious on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 1:37 pm

Hi there Candyfloss, I love to read your opinions.  For me this is a very sad story indeed.  It takes me back to the JBR case. In this case however there are just so many theories and opinions regarding what could have happened that dreadful night.  If at any stage the parents had anything to do with this, Shocked goodness knows they must have suffered more than you can explain.  I mean nobody will really tell if their child accidently got killed.  So the abduction story just softens the pain. I do feel sorry for them, truly, it has been 10 years now and as I understand people, the story will never really end. I DO THINK...THE TRUTH MUST COME OUT. AGAIN I SAY IF ONLY ONE OF THE FAMOUS FRIENDS HAD THE GUTS TO TELL,  OR EVEN HINT THIS WILL BE OVER.  I FEEL VERY SORRY FOR THE TWO OTHER CHILDREN. For as long as it will be remembered, they will be reminded of it. How long can a child really endure such remarks and all the publicity.  Surely when they grow older I wonder who they will believe.  K wrote a book, she kept a diary etc so one day they may know.  When will that one day be?  In the meantime they must be ridiculed and reminded of what? Kids can be verrrrrrry cruel and we all know it. Surely they will one day realize something is not making sense.  As for the petition, yes for what it is worth I did sign it. I have worked with all children of all ages for more than 33 years.  I have seen things done by parents to their children, and then trying to talk it away. What most of them don't or did not realize is that these kids draw pictures and play games.  I can sit here and bawl my eyes out if I think back over the years.  Sometimes the child would ask me a question ..Like for instance..."Do you also do this and that to your children?"  Sometimes you are shocked to the bones and chills run down your spine and your tongue sticks to your pallet while you think " Lord in Heaven, please give me the strength to answer this correctly.  You look into their eyes and you realize that there is such a big problem and you have to concentrate on what you are about to answer. Shocked  If (and I state very clearly if) the parents have something to do with this - eventually .............one day...............THEY WILL BE REMINDED BY THESE SAME TWO OF WHAT THEY DID.  There might even then come a day that will stand up against them - TELL US THE TRUTH  MOM THE STORY JUST DONT MAKE SENSE.  The theory that she was "taken" I rule that out because of the blood sprays in 5A.  Why would somebody take a child. first hurt her so that it can bleed, put the body behind the couch and theN to the CUPBOARD and then K FAMOUS - WHOOOOOOOOOOOOSH AND SHE IS GONE! No I still do not believe any of this.  If there was a way (any way at all) for the truth to surface, they must take the punch.  I read somewhere that this act was not really due to neglect - come on - if you really worry about your children, all of them had apartments, then why not have a nice meal with the children too?  As far as I read the poor souls was only in Portugal to go to the different groups and the parents had all the fun.  I can think of ONE LADY IN THAT GROUP (MY OPINION) THAT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.  They don't visit them anymore, why? they do not want to be reminded of that day (which ever day 2nd or 3rd) So rather break contact.  I am also sure that the person /s lost their respect for the mcc
To tell you the truth, I don't think patients will trust G ever again, and I cannot see that he will be so FAMOUS IF IT WAS NOT FOR THIS PARTICULAR CASE.  If people think he is a Scottish prince, look again his nose is forever growing!
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Post  Andrew on Thu 30 Mar 2017, 5:33 am

Morning folks. Early start for me and will kick off with some of this:

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/601153/Maddie-McCann-Gerry-Kate-second-petition-missing-child

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3209725/fury-at-petition-calling-for-madeleine-mccanns-parents-kate-and-gerry-mccann-to-sit-a-lie-detector-test/

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11828718

https://startsat60.com/trending/news/will-the-truth-finally-answer-what-happened-to-madeline-mccann

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Post  Andrew on Thu 30 Mar 2017, 6:25 am

http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/petition-calls-for-madeleine-mccanns-parents-to-take-liedetector-test/news-story/de7a08a40d99c8163eb29927c8a80917

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4362320/Online-petition-calls-McCanns-LIE-DETECTOR.html
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Post  Andrew on Thu 30 Mar 2017, 7:52 am

A very decent article:

http://honey.nine.com.au/2017/03/30/16/03/petition-calls-for-madeleine-mccanns-parents-to-take-lie-detector-test

Some snips you won't read in the British MSM (yet):

Earlier this month it was reported that Scotland Yard has spent $20 million investigating "ridiculous" leads in the case

Then there is the mysterious detail that Mrs McCann refused to answer 48 questions put to her by police.

Video of cadaver- and blood-sniffing dogs apparently getting "hits" in the McCanns' apartment
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Post  Andrew on Thu 30 Mar 2017, 10:24 am

http://metro.co.uk/2017/03/30/offensive-petition-calls-on-madeleine-mccanns-parents-to-take-lie-detector-test-6542331/
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Post  Andrew on Thu 30 Mar 2017, 1:37 pm

http://lifestyle.one/closer/news-real-life/in-the-news/petition-kate-gerry-madeleine-mccann-lie-detector-test-signatures-care2/

Unfortunately for the organisers, the petition is not listed on the official Downing Street petitions website, and therefore has absolutely no chance of being debated in parliament
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THE PETITION

Post  curious on Thu 30 Mar 2017, 1:42 pm

Thanks Andrew! But I do hope somewhere something will happen to make this story come to a solution. Cool
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Post  Andrew on Thu 30 Mar 2017, 1:46 pm

curious wrote:Thanks Andrew! But I do hope somewhere something will happen to make this story come to a solution. Cool

Maybe K and G will do a live lie detector test on the 10th anniversary to silence the 'doubters'.

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